cybart:The Seminaries are "clearing" the slect clergy based on whether they will comply with state directives
cybart:Yes, I can do two things
cybart:at the same time
cybart:The Soviets were Kazars and American Kazars were cooperating
aaron berry 03: oh really man o man
dusty_154: The church must collect a Federal ID (Social Security) number from visiting evangelists, missionaries, preachers and singers before they invite them to the pulpit.
christianparty: man, oh, man
cybart: This means that most of the American Christian clergy must be similar to what the clergy were under the Soviet system - they all had to be KGB agents
dusty_154: They must give a Form 1099 to any minister who receives up to $600 in a years time, which includes missionary support
cybart: I think this is done in the Seminaries and Bible Schools
cybart: Special Ministries Conventions
aaron berry 03: man o man
aaron berry 03: terrable
cybart: This is why the Russian Churches outside Russia and the American Russian Orthodox Church still do not recognize the Moscow Patriarchy
jeremiahs: interesting, cy
cybart:The Moscow Patriarchy is still a center of KGB operatives
cybart:the last holdover
jeremiahs:two different divisions of the Russian Orthodox Church are still fighting over ownership of the Cathedrals which were confiscated in Russia
dusty_154:If the ID is not received, the church leaders must withhold a jeopardy assessment of 39% on the spot and send it to the IRS.
jeremiahs:this is exactly what Hitler did to both Protestant and Catholic Churches in Germany ,starting in 1933
aaron berry 03: wow
jeremiahs: man, dusty
dusty_154: They must agree to the IRS definition of benevolence
aaron berry 03: yep
aaron berry 03: or real property
jeremiahs: man, cc, you need to write this up
jeremiahs: never, ever knew this
aaron berry 03: this is good stuff
aaron berry 03: cy can u write something up
aaron berry 03: if not its ok
cybart: I'll definitely have to research all this
dusty_154: They cannot deal in cash at any level, but must deposit all offerings into a checking account and write checks for every purpose.
cybart: It's not easy to find
aaron berry 03: ok cy and thank u
aaron berry 03: true
jeremiahs: the jews funnel it all to Jerusalem
aaron berry 03: yes
aaron berry 03: this is bad and the ppl need to know
jeremiahs: yes, aaron
aaron berry 03: this could be the topic of the yr
jeremiahs: this must be documented
cybart: Tomorrow I'll go to a protestant, pentecostal and catholic book store and try to find literature on this IRS compliance requirements
jeremiahs: good idea, cy
aaron berry 03: ok cy and ty again
dusty_154: to much in this writing to post
cybart: Did it get resolved?
dusty_154: Other things that pastors and church leaders are required to do are to be an informer against their members and also to preach only IRS prescribed sermons
dusty_154: Also, all fund raising material must be submitted to the IRS for their approval.
cybart: Yes, Sheldom Emry - I haver high respect for him. I listened to all of his broadcasts and tapes and literature
dusty_154: The job description for pastors is a list of nine specific sacerdotal duties which again is a Roman Catholic definition meaning sacred
dusty_154: The Catholic church teaches that these sacraments, when administered by a priest, are essential to ones salvation
aaron berry 03: wow
jeremiahs: brb, 30 secs
cybart: Be right back also.
aaron berry 03: ok ya'll
dusty_154: The nine duties are: baptisms, weddings, serving the Eucharist (the Catholic sacrament of communion), teaching , spiritual counseling, christenings or baby dedications, administration of church affairs and the regular conducting of worship services
aaron berry 03: home church it will have to become
dusty_154: If the pastor does a substantial number of these things, he will receive very lucrative tax breaks.
When a church applies for a loan, they must provide the names, addresses, and phone numbers of their contributors as collateral.
Pastors can't take a gift on church property without documenting it.
can't speak out against public education or homosexuals.
It's a federal offense to disturb a church service.