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John Perna and the Ad Hominem

NEWS FLASH: NEW RECORD HOLDER IN AD HOMINEMS

 

 

bullet See how jews divide and conquor.
bullet 104 ad hominems and 9 blasphemies.
bullet How the Talmud distorts clear thinking.
bullet How jews use the term "nazi" and then deny they use it.
bullet What Jesus Christ had to say about jews.
bullet What Thomas Jefferson had to say about jews.
bullet congenitally lying Bolshevik schidzoid khazar mamzer
bullet Mud Mechelen is a "partial Christian".

NEWS FLASH: Bill Cervantes and Super Kike Jan Diechmohle are one and the same.  The score is now:

  1. 104 Ad Hominems.

  2. 9 Blasphemies

NEWS FLASH:  December 21, 2000--new arrival, 35 brand new, fresh, never used before ad hominems!!!

 

From: "John Perna" <johnperna@compuzone.net>
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 8:56 AM
Still more Ad Hominem in the place of logical arguements
Have you given up on presenting facts?
- "Ad Hominem" means "against the man"
The one who is unable to refute the
message, with facts, attacks the messenger instead. This is act a
desperation that is meant to be face saving. In reality it is an admission
of a defeat in the philosophical exchange.

This is usually good advice.  And like most free advice, the person who gives the advice is usually the one who would be the biggest beneficiary of his own advice, as the following posts demonstrates with a record 47 ad hominems which are conveniently numbered below:

From: John Perna
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 6:33 AM
You revise every historical fact to make it match your predetermined conlcusion.
You turn everyone, that is bad, into a Jew.
Then you turn every Jew that the Bible clearly shows as good, into a Non-Jew.
1) I cannot imagine that you actually believe the things that you are saying.
2) It is as if you just dropped in from another planet, or got loose from a funny farm..
3) How did you get like that?

From: John Perna
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 2:37 AM
Subject: [The Grip] Re: [repeal19th] The Unnatural Death of a Natural Right... Reason itself!

4) Rolling on the floor and laughing my a** off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5) Are you ACTUALLY trying to convince people that Mao Tse Tung was a Jew?????
I think that one tops the claim that no one, who is mentioned in the Bible, is a Jew.
6) Do you actually BELIEVE that?
7) Or did you make a bet that you could convince someone of it?
8) Is someone paying you to do this?
9) Is it impossible to admit that there are good people and bad people from among every ethnic group?

From: John Perna
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 5:21 PM
We do not say that Christ was the King of the Jews. The Bible does.
10) I am starting to realize that it is pointless to try to reason with you.
Anyone who says the Jesus, and the disciples. were not Jews, but that Mao Tse Dung WAS
a Jew, is clearly (11) not playing with a full deck
You revise every historical fact to make it match (12) your predetermined
conlcusion.

You turn everyone, that is bad, into a Jew.
Then you turn every Jew that the Bible clearly shows as good, into a
Non-Jew.
13) I cannot imagine that you actually believe the things that you are saying.
14) Is someone paying you to do this?
15) Are you trying to win a bet?
16) Do you "get off" on convincing people to believe UTTER NONSENSE?
17) It is as if you just dropped in from another planet, or got loose from a
funny farm..
18) How did you get like that?

From: John Perna
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 6:40 PM
19) There is definately a screw loose somewhere.
The inscriptions say that Christ was King of the Jews, and there are hundreds of other verses that refer to Christ as a Jew
20) BUT that does not fit your predetermined conclusion; so you cannot see it, even when you post it yourself
21) GET HELP. The verses are posted at the end of this message.
22) DO NOT TRY TO TWIST THE BIBLE.
23) God will punish you.

Matthew, Mark, Luke and John all wrote down what they saw.
Their accounts are INCREDIBLY similar.
There is certainly no SIGNIFICANT difference in their accounts.
There is certainly no disagreement about the RELEVANT point: that Jesus was crucified as the King of the Jews.

No one can argue against the Christian Bible, and still claim to be a Christian.

The "last supper" was a passover feast, celebrated by NO ONE ELSE BUT JEWS.

The Romans took Jesus during Passover specifically BECAUSE He was a Jew.

From: "John Perna" <johnperna@compuzone.net>
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 7:50 PM
24) > I am not going to keep posting the same things over and over.
> The Bible says the Jesus was a Jew in a few hundred different places.
> THE Verses are below.
25) > CASE CLOSED.

 

From: John Perna
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 7:57 PM
The Bible says that the Messiah would be of the House of David.
Are you saying the Jesus is not the Messiah?
Are you saying the He is a liar?
26) If I hear anymore of this nonsense I will stop participating.

From: John Perna
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 6:53 AM
27) I am starting to realize that it is pointless to try to reason with you.
Anyone who says that Jesus, and the disciples. were not Jews, but that Mao Tse Dung WAS
a Jew, is (28) clearly not playing with a full deck

29) You revise every historical fact to make it match your predetermined
conlcusion
.
You turn everyone, that is bad, into a Jew.
Then you turn every Jew that the Bible clearly shows as good, into a
Non-Jew.

30) I cannot imagine that you actually believe the things that you are saying.
31) Is someone paying you to do this?
32) Are you trying to win a bet?
34) Do you "get off" on convincing people to believe UTTER NONSENSE?
35) It is as if you just dropped in from another planet, or got loose from a
funny farm..
36) How did you get like that?

37) I cannot imagine how you can think that portraying this whole thing as a
Jewish Conspiracy is anything except an over simplification. I am not
denying that
the conspiracy has plenty of Atheists who are descendants of Abraham. The
BIBLE BELIEVING
Jew is more likely to be their victims than you are. (38) Portraying this whole thing
as a Jewish Conspiracy is an error
that shifts blame away from MANY people who are
guilty, and shifts blame toward MANY other people, who are as patriotic as
you.

39) If you are a Christian, your God is a Jew. Learn to deal with that!

40) At the same time, I cannot comprehend how anyone could look at
murderers
, like Yasser Arafat and Quaddaffi as any kind of a force for good.

41) I do not expect that any of this will make any difference to you. The
problem is, that in order to have credibility you have to be CONSISTENTLY right. (42) Slanting
everything so that it always comes up Jewish
, just discredits the rest of your
information. (43) If there is one fly's turd in the sugar bowl most people will
throw out the whole bowl of
sugar. Then there are a few people who have developed an appetite for that
sort of thing.

44) I am going to get back to the job of opposing totalitarianism now.

 

From: "John Perna" <johnperna@compuzone.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 2:58 PM
45) Utter RUBBISH! It is against to Jewish religion to consume blood of ANY kind. (IT IS NOT "KOSHER") The book of Leviticus is where these laws are found

From: John Perna
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 4:29 AM
46) I do not think that I will be sending money to Willie

From: John Perna
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 11:20 PM
47) Yes there are phonies who try to turn Jesus's message of love into hatred.

October 15, 2000--John Perna Defends His Ad Hominems

Number 48 added October 30, 2000

From: John Perna
To: LIFE-GAZETTE@egroups.com ; Edwin C. Hamada, Esq ; Linda M. Woolf, Ph.D. ; cinds cinds ; The Grip (E) ; repeal19th@egroups.com ; KORESHX98@egroups.com ; demand@egroups.com ; ChristianPatriot ; Christian Nationalist ; theseries ; SonsofLiberty@egroups.com
Cc: bcpolitics@egroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 5:29 AM
Subject: [repeal19th] Thugs

"Edwin C. Hamada, Esq" <EHamada@HamadaLaw.COM>; you have hit the nail on the
head.
Having never been in prison, I have never been face to face with the thugs
that run the Aryan Hate Groups.
What is happening to internet egroups was well described, on one of those
groups, in these words:

"Its like throwing a party and
seeing 1 or 2 thugs come in and start causing trouble.
Do you throw them out (censor them) or let them stay
and watch all your friends leave? I refuse to belong
to any list which is dominated by 1 or 2 'thugs' who
disrupt every 'on-topic' post that comes along. What
incentive is their to stay? Opening my email in the
morning and seeing about 20-"Jews suck" in the subject
headers and nothing else is unacceptable. There's no
more sane dialogue. This is where the list has become
dominated by the 2 thugs that were allowed to stay.
And you are totally right, they do have a right to
voice their opinions....but not in my house they
don't. Get my point? I'll just go find another list -
one that will survive. "

Bill Cervantes ups the ante on ad hominems on November 21, 1000

bullet You have *no argument*! 
bullet your PAGAN ANTI-Christian hate group!
bullet all you can do is to resort to ad hominems, lies, distortions and insults.
bullet discredited himself.
bullet you didn't respond
bullet calling every opponent a "Jew"
bullet your hate group
bullet You've discredited yourself!
bullet Ostracize the hate mongers!
bullet The hate mongers are bashing the ethnic of Jesus Christ
bullet The hate mongers are bashing the ethnic of most or all of Jesus' disciples
bullet The hate mongers insult Christianity and Christians with their bashing.
bullet You're no Christians!
bullet Anti-Christian hate-mongers you are!
bullet Pagans of a satanic cult of hatred!
bullet Even the women in front of svasticas on a picture posted to repeal19th on egroups resulted in an approving eply.
bullet Some of the gang are openly worshipping Odin
bullet Anti-Christian ideology, even pagan worshippers.
bullet They have *no argument* other than deception.
bullet Have a look at the truth about the ANTI-Christian HATE MONGERS

On the Fourth Day of Christmas, PermaLIAR brought to us:

thirty five new ad hominems, several blasphemies, alllllll bra.a.and new!!

3 turtle doves, ..., and a partridge in a pear tree.

 

  1. I certainly do not know it because you say it
  2. I have seen your steady flow of lies for a long time.
  3. Whe I read something from your the onlt thing that I believe is the page numbers
  4. COMMUNIST agents, who pretend  to be Christain patriots
  5. automatically labeling; as a Jew, everyone who opposes them
  6. a complete lack of regard for truth or accuracy
  7. This destroys their credibility
  8. demonstrating dishonesty
  9. or stupidity
  10. repeatedly making the same false statements
  11. anyone with the intelligence of a gnat can see that this is another deception
  12. an ad hominem
  13. attempt to shift attention from the message, to the messenger
  14. agents of deception
  15. perfectly willing to discredit themselves
  16. making ridiculous statements
  17. beyond any belief
  18. just as Anti-semitic
  19. these hate mongers
  20. I will bet they would tell you that the Big Bad Wolf was a Jew too!
  21. Maybe they will even say that a Jew sank the Titanic
  22. IceBERG; anyone can tell that is a Jewish name
  23. CANNOT RESIST THE URGE TO CHANGE THE DEBATE FROM THE ISSUE TO THE PERSON
  24. revisionism seems to be able to transform anyone into a Jew
  25. transform any Jew into a gentile
  26. there are two separate standards for determining who is and who is Not a Jew
    1.   One for people who are good:  Never a Jew no matter what
    2.   One for people who are bad:   Always a Jew no matter what
  27. agents of deception
  28. They do not even believe their own lies
  29. dedicated agents of deception
  30. who have an undisclosed agenda
  31. who it is that they work for
  32. Their agenda promotes class struggle
  33. and totalitarian government
  34. agreement with the Communist Manifesto
  35. unusually high prevalence of ties to the former Soviet Union