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Thank you you taking the time to create an entire web page that is just about me. My very own web page! Such flattery! I had no idea that my efforts had been so effective and worth while.

You're welcome.

I now challenge you to post this response there also, along with all of the things that are quoted out of context.

Done.

Most of what you claim is an ad hominem, is not an ad hominem at all, because it TRULY makes no attempt to shift the discussion from the issue to the person. Yes I DID raise a few honest questions about motive, because I actually am interested in the answers, but I never tried to change the discussion from the issue to the person. There truly ARE people who need help. A psychiatrist would made the same comment in more professional terms.

Fine.  We'll add a new category: blasphemy.

Most people will make a FEW unintentional ad hominems. The last person, who was able to be subjected to continuous insults and ad hominems, without ever responding in like kind, wound up getting got crucified by anti-semites. I must ask you: ARE YOU ALSO MAKING AN EFFORT TO LIMIT YOUR ERRORS TO "A FEW", UNINTENTIONALLY MADE, AD HOMINEMS? Or is the ad hominem your PRIMARY RESPONSE STRATEGY? People can judge this for themselves.

They already have.  They already see that you are the world record holder on ad hominems.

Most of what you claim is an ad hominem, is not an ad hominem at all, because it is not an attack on a person at all, but deals with a concept.

Most of what you claim is an ad hominem, is not an ad hominem at all, because it relates to a general concept of error and does not even specify who it is that has made, or is making, this error. When you throw a rock into a pen full of pigs, the one that squeals is the one that you hit.YOU are the one that says that the "shoe fits".

Agreed.  You are the pig which is squealing the loudest right now.  In fact, now that we know you and "Bill Cervantes" are one and the same, there is only ONE pig who squeals louder than ten normal pigs.

Much of what you have highlighted relates to a questioning of the credibility of a concept. In some cases I questioned these concepts in terms which included pronouns, causing the question to be personal. This IS very close to being an ad hominem, and in a FEW cases it WAS an ad hominem. Where it WAS an ad hominem, it was unintentional, but I will apologize for it never the less.

You claim that it is "unintentional" that you proclaim your opponents in a debate need "psychiatric help"?  Hmm, velly intelesting.  Why don't you lie down on this couch over here?

Comments on your webpage: You revise every historical fact to make it match your predetermined conlcusion. You turn everyone, that is bad, into a Jew. Then you turn every Jew that the Bible clearly shows as good, into a Non-Jew. 1) I cannot imagine that you actually believe the things that you are saying.

ANY person who follows the Talmud is despicable, jew or not.  Do you know anybody besides jews who follow the Talmud?

duplicated over and over again to try to contrive a large number of ad hominems.

It was YOU who duplicated the ad hominems over and over again.  All we did was repeat them.  If you note ONE that was repeated more than you stated it, let us know asap, and it will be corrected.

relates to a questioning of the credibility of a concept. I questioned this concept in terms which included pronouns, causing the question to be personal. It is not an ad hominem, but I will apologize for it never the less.

2) It is as if you just dropped in from another planet, or got loose from a funny farm..

A true ad hominem. I apologize. A psychiatrist would made the same comment in more professional terms.

You arent' a psychiatrist, which means that your "apology" is in fact an additional ad hominem, raising your score to 97.   This is excellent.

duplicated over and over again to try to contrive such a large number of ad hominems.

3) How did you get like that?

duplicated over and over again to try to contrive such a large number of ad hominems.

This is an exact duplicate of what YOU said.  We didn't duplicate it, you did.

relates to a questioning of the credibility of a concept. I questioned this concept in terms which included pronouns, causing the question to be personal. It is not an ad hominem, but I will apologize for it never the less.

4) Rolling on the floor and laughing my a** off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

relates to a questioning of the credibility of a concept. not an attack on a person at all,

There are ways to do this.  Maybe you'll eventually learn how?

5) Are you ACTUALLY trying to convince people that Mao Tse Tung was a Jew?????

not an attack on a person at all, but deals with a concept.

It provided nothing of substance to the debate, and was clearly intended to belittle the person who presented the argument, not the argument itself.  Even those who disagree with the thesis will disagree even more with your ad hominem than they will with the original thesis, which effectively sidelines the discussion.

I think that one tops the claim that no one, who is mentioned in the Bible, is a Jew.

6) Do you actually BELIEVE that?

relates to a questioning of the credibility of a concept. not an attack on a person at all,

BZZZT!  This is Blasphemy Number One.  Here you are associating Jesus Christ our Saviour with people whom He referred to as "sons of the Devil".  We never will accept your view that Jesus Christ was anywhere close to being in that category, and you KNOW it.  It is not nice to fool with God.

duplicated over and over again to try to contrive such a large number of ad hominems.

You have repeated this over and over.

7) Or did you make a bet that you could convince someone of it?

duplicated over and over again to try to contrive such a large number of ad hominems.

You have repeated this over and over.

This IS very close to being an ad hominem, I will apologize for it never the less.

This is a honest question, because I actually am interested in the answer. It is not an attempt to change the discussion from the issue to the person.

Do you really think we're that stupid?

8) Is someone paying you to do this?

duplicated over and over again to try to contrive such a large number of ad hominems.

You have repeated this over and over.

This IS very close to being an ad hominem, I will apologize for it never the less.

This is a honest question, because I actually am interested in the answer. It is not an attempt to change the discussion from the issue to the person. I was asked the same question, and I answered it.

So did we, and the answer was "no".  Do you need clarification of the answer?

9) Is it impossible to admit that there are good people and bad people from among every ethnic group?

not an attack on a person at all, but deals with a concept.

Nobody but YOU ever said that there were NOT good and bad people from every ethnic group.  You are correct that this is not an ad hominem--rather, it is a straw man argument.

We do not say that Christ was the King of the Jews. The Bible does. 10) I am starting to realize that it is pointless to try to reason with you.

This is an agreement with what you guys have told me over and over again. It is also a communication concerning a need to adjourn the debate.

duplicated over and over again to try to contrive a large number of ad hominems (27)

You have repeated this over and over.

Anyone who says the Jesus, and the disciples. were not Jews, but that Mao Tse Dung WAS a Jew, is clearly (11) not playing with a full deck

A true ad hominem. I apologize. A psychiatrist would made the same comment in more professional terms.

You are not a psychiatrist, which makes your "apology" Ad Hominem Number 98.

You revise every historical fact to make it match

Ad Hominem Number 99.

(12) your predetermined conlcusion.

not an attack on a person at all, but deals with a concept.

You turn everyone, that is bad, into a Jew. Then you turn every Jew that the Bible clearly shows as good, into a Non-Jew.

13) I cannot imagine that you actually believe the things that you are saying.

relates to a questioning of the credibility of a concept. not an attack on a person at all,

14) Is someone paying you to do this?

duplicated over and over again to try to contrive such a large number of ad hominems. (8)

You have repeated this over and over.

This IS very close to being an ad hominem, I will apologize for it never the less.

This is a honest question, because I actually am interested in the answer. It is not an attempt to change the discussion from the issue to the person. I was asked the same question, and I answered it.

15) Are you trying to win a bet?

duplicated over and over again to try to contrive a large number of ad hominems

You have repeated this over and over.

16) Do you "get off" on convincing people to believe UTTER NONSENSE?

duplicated over and over again to try to contrive a large number of ad hominems

You have repeated this over and over.

17) It is as if you just dropped in from another planet, or got loose from a funny farm..

duplicated over and over again to try to contrive a large number of ad hominems

You have repeated this over and over.

A psychiatrist would made the same comment in more professional terms.

Ad Hominem Number 100.

18) How did you get like that?

duplicated over and over again to try to contrive a large number of ad hominems

You have repeated this over and over.

19) There is definately a screw loose somewhere.

relates to a general concept of error and does not even specify who it is that has made, or is making, this error. When you throw a rock into a pen full of pigs, the one the squeals is the one that you hit.

YOU are the one the says that the shoe fits. A psychiatrist would made the same comment in more professional terms.

Ad Hominem Number 101.

The inscriptions say that Christ was King of the Jews, and there are hundreds of other verses that refer to Christ as a Jew 20) BUT that does not fit your predetermined conclusion;

not an attack on a person at all, but deals with a concept.

BZZZT!  This is Blasphemy Number Two.  Here you are associating Jesus Christ our Saviour with people whom He referred to as "sons of the Devil".  We never will accept your view that Jesus Christ was anywhere close to being in that category, and you KNOW it.  It is not nice to fool with God.

so you cannot see it, even when you post it yourself 21) GET HELP.

A true ad hominem. I apologize. A psychiatrist would made the same comment in more professional terms.

Ad Hominem Number 102.

22) DO NOT TRY TO TWIST THE BIBLE.

not an attack on a person at all, but deals with a concept.

23) God will punish you.

Deals with a concept, and should NOT have included a personal pronoun.

I SHOULD HAVE SAID: God will punish those who TWIST THE BIBLE.

This comes close to being an ad hominem, but strictly, it is not. Never the less, I apologize.

24) > I am not going to keep posting the same things over and over. . > The Bible says the Jesus was a Jew in a few hundred different places. > THE Verses are below.

not an attack on a person at all, but deals with a concept

BZZZT!  This is Blasphemy Number Three.  Here you are associating Jesus Christ our Saviour with people whom He referred to as "sons of the Devil".  We never will accept your view that Jesus Christ was anywhere close to being in that category, and you KNOW it.  It is not nice to fool with God.

25) > CASE CLOSED.

not an attack on a person at all, but deals with a concept.

26) If I hear anymore of this nonsense I will stop participating.

This is also a communication concerning a need to adjourn the debate.

not an attack on a person at all, but deals with a concept.

27) I am starting to realize that it is pointless to try to reason with you. Anyone who says that Jesus, and the disciples. were not Jews, but that Mao Tse Dung WAS a Jew, is

This is an agreement with what you guys have told me over and over again. It is also a communication concerning a need to adjourn the debate.

duplicated over and over again to try to contrive a large number of ad hominems (10)

You have repeated this over and over.

(28) clearly not playing with a full deck

duplicated over and over again to try to contrive a large number of ad hominems

You have repeated this over and over.

29) You revise every historical fact to make it match your predetermined conlcusion.

duplicated over and over again to try to contrive a large number of ad hominems

You have repeated this over and over.

not an attack on a person at all, but deals with a concept.

You turn everyone, that is bad, into a Jew. Then you turn every Jew that the Bible clearly shows as good, into a Non-Jew.

BZZZT!  This is Blasphemy Number Four.  Here you are associating Jesus Christ our Saviour with people whom He referred to as "sons of the Devil".  We never will accept your view that Jesus Christ was anywhere close to being in that category, and you KNOW it.  It is not nice to fool with God.

30) I cannot imagine that you actually believe the things that you are saying

duplicated over and over again to try to contrive such a large number of ad hominems.

You have repeated this over and over.

. 31) Is someone paying you to do this?

duplicated over and over again to try to contrive such a large number of ad hominems.

32) Are you trying to win a bet?

duplicated over and over again to try to contrive such a large number of ad hominems.

You have repeated this over and over.

34) Do you "get off" on convincing people to believe UTTER NONSENSE?

duplicated over and over again to try to contrive such a large number of ad hominems.

You have repeated this over and over.

35) It is as if you just dropped in from another planet, or got loose from a funny farm..

duplicated over and over again to try to contrive such a large number of ad hominems.

You have repeated this over and over.

36) How did you get like that?

duplicated over and over again to try to contrive such a large number of ad hominems.

You have repeated this over and over.

A psychiatrist would made the same comment in more professional terms.

37) I cannot imagine how you can think that portraying this whole thing as a Jewish Conspiracy is anything except an over simplification. I am not denying that

not an attack on a person at all, but deals with a concept.

the conspiracy has plenty of Atheists who are descendants of Abraham. The BIBLE BELIEVING Jew is more likely to be their victims than you are.

(38) Portraying this whole thing as a Jewish Conspiracy is an error that shifts blame away from MANY people who are guilty, and shifts blame toward MANY other people, who are as patriotic as you.

not an attack on a person at all, but deals with a concept.

39) If you are a Christian, your God is a Jew. Learn to deal with that!

not an attack on a person at all, but deals with a concept.

BZZZT!  This is Blasphemy Number Five.  Here you are associating Jesus Christ our Saviour with people whom He referred to as "sons of the Devil".  We never will accept your view that Jesus Christ was anywhere close to being in that category, and you KNOW it.  It is not nice to fool with God.

40) At the same time, I cannot comprehend how anyone could look at murderers, like Yasser Arafat and Quaddaffi as any kind of a force for good.

not an attack on a person at all, but deals with a concept.

Ad Hominem Number 98 STRAW MAN

41) I do not expect that any of this will make any difference to you. The problem is, that in order to have credibility you have to be CONSISTENTLY right.

not an attack on a person at all, but deals with a concept. An honest communication.

BZZZT!  This is Blasphemy Number Six.  Jesus Christ and the Holy Bible are always CONSISTENTLY right.

(42) Slanting everything so that it always comes up Jewish, just discredits the rest of your information.

not an attack on a person at all, but deals with a concept.

(43) If there is one fly's turd in the sugar bowl most people will throw out the whole bowl of sugar. Then there are a few people who have developed an appetite for that sort of thing.

relates to a general concept of error and does not even specify who it is that has made, or is making, this error. When you throw a rock into a pen full of pigs, the one that squeals is the one that you hit.YOU are the one the says that this shoe fits

Ad Hominem Number 103.

44) I am going to get back to the job of opposing totalitarianism now.

not an attack on a person at all, but deals with a concept.

45) Utter RUBBISH! It is against to Jewish religion to consume blood of ANY kind. (IT IS NOT "KOSHER") The book of Leviticus is where these laws are found

not an attack on a person at all, but deals with a concept.

46) I do not think that I will be sending money to Willie

not an attack on a person at all, but deals with a fact.

47) Yes there are phonies who try to turn Jesus's message of love into hatred.

relates to a general concept of error and does not even specify who it is that has made, or is making, this error. When you throw a rock into a pen full of pigs, the one that squeals is the one that you hit.YOU are the one the says that this shoe fits

Ad Hominem Number 104

Number 48 added October 30, 2000

Having never been in prison, I have never been face to face with the thugs that run the Aryan Hate Groups. What is happening to internet egroups was well described, on one of those groups, in these words:

"Its like throwing a party and seeing 1 or 2 thugs come in and start causing trouble. Do you throw them out (censor them) or let them stay and watch all your friends leave? I refuse to belong to any list which is dominated by 1 or 2 'thugs' who disrupt every 'on-topic' post that comes along. What incentive is their to stay? Opening my email in the morning and seeing about 20-"Jews suck" in the subject headers and nothing else is unacceptable. There's no more sane dialogue. This is where the list has become dominated by the 2 thugs that were allowed to stay. And you are totally right, they do have a right to voice their opinions....but not in my house they don't. Get my point? I'll just go find another list - one that will survive. "

relates to a general concept of error and does not even specify who it is that has made, or is making, this error; except by the term "Aryan Hate Group". For some reason you think that describes you.. When you throw a rock into a pen full of pigs, the one that squeals is the one that you hit.YOU are the one the says that this shoe fits.

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Final reply:

"Its like throwing a party and seeing 1 or 2 jews come in and start causing trouble. Do you throw them out (censor them) or let them stay and watch all your friends leave? I refuse to belong to any list which is dominated by 1 or 2 'jews' who disrupt every 'on-topic' post that comes along. What incentive is their to stay? Opening my email, or newspaper, or magazine, or turning on the TV, or the radio, in the morning and seeing about 20-"Christians suck" in the subject headers and nothing else is unacceptable. There's no more sane dialogue. This is where the list has become dominated by the 2 jews that were allowed to stay. And you are totally right, they do have a right to voice their opinions....but not in my house they don't. Get my point? I'll just go find another list - one that will survive. "

 

 

 

 

 

TRAITOR McCain

jewn McCain

ASSASSIN of JFK, Patton, many other Whites

killed 264 MILLION Christians in WWII

killed 64 million Christians in Russia

holocaust denier extraordinaire--denying the Armenian holocaust

millions dead in the Middle East

tens of millions of dead Christians

LOST $1.2 TRILLION in Pentagon
spearheaded torture & sodomy of all non-jews
millions dead in Iraq

42 dead, mass murderer Goldman LOVED by jews

serial killer of 13 Christians

the REAL terrorists--not a single one is an Arab

serial killers are all jews

framed Christians for anti-semitism, got caught
left 350 firemen behind to die in WTC

legally insane debarred lawyer CENSORED free speech

mother of all fnazis, certified mentally ill

10,000 Whites DEAD from one jew LIE

moser HATED by jews: he followed the law

f.ck Jesus--from a "news" person!!

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