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« Reply #915 on: October 15, 2010, 07:13:12 PM »
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I'm still wondering about the disconnect between (a) oh, my, oh, my look how the American math education establishment has failed basically everyone and (b) hardly anyone in the US has the basic genetic capacity to learn all that hard math so why bother?

Which is it, Benami?  Are we incompetent teachers who should be sacked or is the situation just that we have such poor material that even the best Asian teachers would throw their hands up in despair?
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« Reply #916 on: October 15, 2010, 07:45:11 PM »
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Here is what I would like to know, partly for course-related purposes:

Which of those names is genuine, if any?
How can someone use an aka of someone who died years ago?  Is hate a group project?
Do you have a job?  If so, doing what?
Do you have family members?  Neighbors?  How do they interact with you?
Did you ever take a statistics or probability (probatiliTIES) course?  What grade did you receive?
What is your quantitative GRE score?
Did you actually graduate from college?  (Do you believe that college does anything to educate people, or are all of us dreaming?)
To what in your lifecourse to date do you attribute the philosophies you hold presently?

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« Reply #917 on: October 15, 2010, 08:08:11 PM »
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Who are you to presume you have some kind of a holy right to force undesirables on me and mine which exceeds our right to associate freely with whom we choose?

Ah, but what's the Pearson coefficient?

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Anyone can be a button-pushing monkey to generate a graph and read off a correlation coefficient and other curve-fit information.
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« Reply #918 on: October 15, 2010, 09:07:55 PM »
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Actually, every single bit of data required to answer this question accurately, completely, and honestly is right there.

Right?
Wrong.
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Who are you to presume you have some kind of a holy right to force undesirables on me and mine which exceeds our right to associate freely with whom we choose?
Nobody is forcing you to associate with anyone; has anyone told you that your little eugenics club meetings have to be open to the public?  On the other hand, you seem quite comfortable coming to a forum on higher education and posting unwelcome effluvia under a variety of names. 
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 The only apology needed here is for character assassination of men like Kevin Strom and J. Philippe Rushton.  
I have no opinion of Rushton's character; he appears to be a very poor scientist, but that is not an assertion about his character.
W/r to free association, however, I gather your buddy Strom is not permitted to associate with children. - DvF
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« Reply #919 on: October 15, 2010, 09:26:24 PM »
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Who are you to presume you have some kind of a holy right to force undesirables on me and mine which exceeds our right to associate freely with whom we choose?

Ah, but what's the Pearson coefficient?

Alan

I thought it was the nonparametric Madison coefficient. Sigh. I'm so lost.
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« Reply #920 on: October 15, 2010, 09:32:07 PM »
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Who are you to presume you have some kind of a holy right to force undesirables on me and mine which exceeds our right to associate freely with whom we choose?

Ah, but what's the Pearson coefficient?

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I thought it was the nonparametric Madison coefficient. Sigh. I'm so lost.

Would that be related to Billy Madison?

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« Reply #921 on: October 15, 2010, 09:36:57 PM »
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Who are you to presume you have some kind of a holy right to force undesirables on me and mine which exceeds our right to associate freely with whom we choose?

Ah, but what's the Pearson coefficient?

Alan

I thought it was the nonparametric Madison coefficient. Sigh. I'm so lost.

Would that be related to Billy Madison?

Alan

That's so gay. You're just dancing around My Main Point.
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« Reply #922 on: October 15, 2010, 09:43:09 PM »
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Who are you to presume you have some kind of a holy right to force undesirables on me and mine which exceeds our right to associate freely with whom we choose?

Ah, but what's the Pearson coefficient?

Alan

I thought it was the nonparametric Madison coefficient. Sigh. I'm so lost.

Would that be related to Billy Madison?

Alan

That's so gay. You're just dancing around My Main Point.

<must distract... must not allow anyone to expose me>

Look! Everybody dance!

Alan
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Excuse me... which aisle would I find the unicorns and rainbows?

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« Reply #923 on: October 15, 2010, 09:47:56 PM »
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Who are you to presume you have some kind of a holy right to force undesirables on me and mine which exceeds our right to associate freely with whom we choose?

Ah, but what's the Pearson coefficient?

Alan

I thought it was the nonparametric Madison coefficient. Sigh. I'm so lost.

Would that be related to Billy Madison?

Alan

That's so gay. You're just dancing around My Main Point.

<must distract... must not allow anyone to expose me>

Look! Everybody dance!

Alan

Why not? Exposure is...you know...hot.
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« Reply #924 on: October 15, 2010, 09:48:38 PM »
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Who are you to presume you have some kind of a holy right to force undesirables on me and mine which exceeds our right to associate freely with whom we choose?

Ah, but what's the Pearson coefficient?

Alan

I thought it was the nonparametric Madison coefficient. Sigh. I'm so lost.

Would that be related to Billy Madison?

Alan

That's so gay. You're just dancing around My Main Point.

<must distract... must not allow anyone to expose me>

Look! Everybody dance!

Alan

Have I told you lately, Alan, that I love you and we definitely still share that brain?
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« Reply #925 on: October 15, 2010, 10:13:27 PM »
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Who are you to presume you have some kind of a holy right to force undesirables on me and mine which exceeds our right to associate freely with whom we choose?

Ah, but what's the Pearson coefficient?

Alan

I thought it was the nonparametric Madison coefficient. Sigh. I'm so lost.

Would that be related to Billy Madison?

Alan

That's so gay. You're just dancing around My Main Point.

<must distract... must not allow anyone to expose me>

Look! Everybody dance!

Alan

Have I told you lately, Alan, that I love you and we definitely still share that brain?

Wheeeee!

Anakin's spinnin' the tunes.

Benami's spinnin'... well... something.

And Polly's one of the shining beacons in this thread.

And in honor of certain aspects this thread- MORE DANCING!

Alan
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Excuse me... which aisle would I find the unicorns and rainbows?

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« Reply #926 on: October 16, 2010, 09:09:36 AM »
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Who are you to presume you have some kind of a holy right to force undesirables on me and mine which exceeds our right to associate freely with whom we choose?

Ah, but what's the Pearson coefficient?

Alan

I thought it was the nonparametric Madison coefficient. Sigh. I'm so lost.

Would that be related to Billy Madison?

Alan

That's so gay. You're just dancing around My Main Point.

<must distract... must not allow anyone to expose me>

Look! Everybody dance!

Alan

Have I told you lately, Alan, that I love you and we definitely still share that brain?

Wheeeee!

Anakin's spinnin' the tunes.

Benami's spinnin'... well... something.

And Polly's one of the shining beacons in this thread.

And in honor of certain aspects this thread- MORE DANCING!

Alan

Look around. Everywhere you turn is heartache.

I know a place where you can get away.
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« Reply #927 on: October 16, 2010, 12:50:40 PM »
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Just dance. It will be OK.
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« Reply #928 on: October 16, 2010, 01:46:39 PM »
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Would I be totally out of line to suggest that we should just lighten up and have some fun?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5N7RNQUKts/url
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« Reply #929 on: October 16, 2010, 02:27:10 PM »
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Would I be totally out of line to suggest that we should just lighten up and have some fun?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5N7RNQUKts/url


Yes, yes, you are nearly completely out of line (check your correlation coefficient and you'll see what I mean).

We are completely serious here and require you to stay on topic.
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