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Democrats Are the WORST Communists

 
 
In their own words http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs 
 
 
Paul A. Tanner III 
Re: The quality of public school teachers in the US
Posted: Jul 18, 2011 11:26 PM
 

- --- On Mon, 7/18/11, Haim <hpipik@netzero.com> wrote:

> From: Haim <hpipik@netzero.com>
> Subject: Re: The quality of public school teachers in the US
> To: math-teach@mathforum.org
> Date: Monday, July 18, 2011, 9:20 AM
> Kirby Urner Posted: Jul 17, 2011 2:29
> PM
>

> >From my viewpoint, the mushy thinkers who
> >blather about socialism and capitalism as if
> >they know what they're talking about...

>
> Psychologists call this "projection", as
> in projecting your own thoughts and emotions onto someone
> else. Because socialism is a fuzzy idea in your head,
> you imagine it is a fuzzy idea in everyone else's
> head. Not so.


Psychologists call this "denial", as in denying fact that is too uncomfortable to accept, like the fact that terms like socialism do not apply in an all-or-nothing way.

The ultimate problem with this notion that "socialism" applies in an all-or-nothing way is that it runs into the plain fact that many times, statements and even phrases need to be quantified and many times in more than one way to avoid being meaningless via ambiguity.

One of those phrases is "the means of production". It's a plain fact that there exists more than one means of production - there is always more than one entity that could produce a good or service. For instance, if there exists more than manufacturing plant, there exist two entities that can produce a good, two entities that are part of the set of "means of production". And so the term "the" in the phrase "the means of production" cannot mean that there exists only one entity that could produce a good or service.

And so if this phrase "means of production" is used without being quantified, such as some claim the person x is a socialist, then what is actually being claimed? That person x believes that ALL means of production should be government-owned? What if person x believes that ONLY SOME means of production should be government-owned? If it is "only some", then is that person a socialist? If person x thinks that say, 2/3 of all means of production should be government-owned, then is person x a socialist? If person x thinks that say, only 1/3 of all means of production should be government-owned, then is person x a socialist? And so on.

These questions are fundamentally significant. Why? Here are some examples why: If we see people claiming that other people are socialists, and if these claimers mean that person x is a socialist if and only if person x believes that all means of production should be government-owned, and if these claimers know that person x believes that only some means of production should be government-owned, then, by the definition of a lie, these claimers are lying when they make the claim that person x is a socialist. Even more importantly, if these claimers are lying in this way and wish to be able to continue to get away with their lying, then they will steadfastly refuse to clarify their claims by steadfastly refusing to quantify their claims with respect to "means of production".

In addition, I pointed out in

http://mathforum.org/kb/message.jspa?messageID=7502307&tstart=0

that Haim has confirmed to us that there exists such a thing pure socialism vs. impure socialism, and so there are degrees of socialism, and therefore degrees to which one can be a socialist. Everything I said above applies to this context as well.

By the way, to address the claim that "modern Western socialists have given up on the idea (at lest for now) of actually expropriating productive assets":

This is completely incorrect: Some of the richest countries in Europe, including all of the ones whose per-capita GDPs are larger than that the per-capita GDP of the US, have much of their government revenue not in the form of taxes but in the form of revenue from government ownership of some means of production. (See

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita

to see all the various countries that practice the hybrid economics of a very large amount of democratic socialism combined with capitalism that are richer than the US in terms of per-capita GDP. Going back through the Wikipedia history of this page confirms that every year, there are a number of countries - usually the same ones - that are richer than the US in terms of per-capita GDP.) The governments of socialist/capitalist countries like Norway, which is very much richer than the US on a per-capita basis, own and profit from much ownership of some means of production, where again, much of government revenues come not from taxes but from ownership of some means of production:

"Economy of Norway"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Norway

Quote:

"The state has large ownership positions in key industrial sectors, such as the strategic petroleum sector (Statoil), hydroelectric energy production (Statkraft), aluminum production (Norsk Hydro), the largest Norwegian bank (DnB NOR) and telecommunication provider (Telenor). The government controls 31.6% of publicly-listed companies. When non-listed companies are included the state has EVEN HIGHER [my emphasis] share in ownership (mainly from direct oil license ownership)."

"Is Socialist Norway A Shining Example Marx Was Right?"
http://theimpudentobserver.com/world-news/is-socialist-norway-a-shining-example-marx-was-right/

Quote:

"As capitalist economies collapse, as unemployment soars to new levels, there remains the case of Norway which is based on Socialist principles and had endured the crisis without encountering the problems of capitalism. Several economists are now returning to the ideas of Karl Marx in order to re-think his comments concerning the destiny of capitalism. A difficulty in discussing "Socialism" with modern people is their confusion concerning the term. Many associate "Socialism" with the USSR which used that expression or NAZI Germany which used the expression. This is akin to saying: "Christians conducted the Inquisition. Christians committed genocide in the New World, therefore, all Christians are guilty of genocide and believe in the Inquisition." There are Christians and there are Christians. Make a list of people who refer to themselves as "Christian" and have absolutely nothing in common with one another."

...

Marx was NOT the initial Socialist. There were "Utopian Socialists" prior to him and he hated Utopian Socialists.

...

Perhaps, it is time to study what is beneficial in Norway and apply some of those principles in order to save capitalism from its own greed. Who today can deny that Marx was right about the inherent selfishness and greed of capitalists? I have a hunch those being fired would prefer a dose of socialism that would provide them a decent unemployment package, including access to medical care."

"In Norway, Start-ups Say Ja to Socialism"
http://www.inc.com/magazine/20110201/in-norway-start-ups-say-ja-to-socialism.html

Quote:

"Although America remains near the top of the world in terms of entrepreneurial aspirations -- that is, the percentage of people who want to start new things-in terms of actual start-up activity, our country has fallen behind not just Norway but also Canada, Denmark, and Switzerland."

"Norway's Capitalist-Socialists"
http://www.inc.com/max-chafkin/meet-norways-capitalist-socialists.html

Quote:

"It's taken as an article of faith that socialism-high taxes, government regulation, robust social safety nets-are bad for entrepreneurs and bad for economic growth. But one of the world's most entrepreneurial economies-with more entrepreneurs per capita than even the U.S.-is also heavily taxed, highly regulated, and fully welfared-up."

"What Norwegian Socialism Looks Like"
http://www.inc.com/max-chafkin/what-norwegian-socialism-looks-like.html

Quote:

"Yes, the brand of socialism in Norway is very different from that in France and Spain, but come on, let's not get carried away here. Norway has universal, socialized health care, a universal socialized pension system, and universal socialized education. There are, as commenters have pointed out, virtually no private schools or private hospitals in the entire country.

If Obama proposed any one of these during his State of the Union Address, more than half of our country would be screaming the S-word and Rick Perry would be preparing articles of secession. There would be talk of how these reforms were going to destroy capitalism as we know it.

Oh wait. All that stuff actually happened-in protest of a much, much weaker health care plan than the one in place in Norway."

"Norway's success in socialism has me turning red with envy"
http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/05/14/norways-success-in-socialism-has-me-turning-red-with-envy/

Quote:

"If this were the 1950s, I'd be about to be put on every blackball list in town. Because I'm cuckoo for those Socialist cocoa puffs after reading this piece on Norway's success with the "cradle-to-grave welfare state."

Bring on the 12-month paid maternity leaves, the all-access-pass to nationalized health care. Because while capitalism was showing America who's your daddy (in our country, he who has the least morals and the most hunger, laughs all the way to his weekend house in the Hamptons), Norway's socialist finance minister was smugly buying our companies' depressed stock. The country has a cushy 11% budget surplus, zero national debt, and an economy that grew 3% last year while Uncle Sam was dancing a jig into a 12.9% deficit, $11 trillion in debt, and the Recession we now all know and love.

These statistics have me turning red with socialist envy.

Banks make up just two percent of the economy; drug addicts are given government-funded fixes (with clean needles); tight oversight means no excessive lending practices. Having recorded comfortable amounts of income from the North Sea oil, Norway saved the money in its sovereign wealth fund; the one that was buying U.S. stock as the markets crashed last fall. The U.K. spent its oil money during the market's upswing. But are our governments feeling guilty? Nope. They should be, says Norway expert Anders Aslund, "in Norway, there is instead a sense of virtue. If you are given a lot, you have a responsibility."

Hmm... "of whom much is given, of him much will be required," anyone? I guess socialism and good old-school Christianity aren't that different, after all. An economy upon whose money God's name is printed would do well to emulate the Christ-like morals of an economy where, on the 10-kroner coin, is the phrase Alt for Norge, meaning Everything for Norway.

It's ironic, isn't it? That a country whose public policy loves its sinners, cares for its indigent, and does not confuse religion and patriotism should end up profiting while a country like ours crashes and burns? The Norwegians are laughing. And don't make me write, "all the way to the bank."

Instead, let's take the (obviously untrue) pious statement off our money, put a noose on our banks, socialize our health care system and take care of our working poor. Those who still believe socialism is evil? Please, feel free to blackball me. I'd be happy never to work in this town again if it would mean the U.S. would finally wake up and smell the integrity it hasn't had for a century or more.

Give us socialism, or else, you know."
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sidney Stevens"  sidney.stevens@angelfire.com  
To: teacher@sullybuttes.net 
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 6:41 PM
Subject: U.S.Marshalls Pledge Allegiance to U.N.
 
 
 
 
 
U.S. Marshalls Pledge Allegiance to United Nations!


Since all the interest in the Indianapolis Baptist Temple and the fiasco
of the specter of U.S. Marshals invading and seizing the Temple for the
Federal Government. Well folks if the so-called U.S. Marshals (actually
United
Nations Marshals) do seize the church and the property they will seize it
for the United Nations and not the United States.

Although they will file all sorts of papers in an effort to deceive the
American people, into thinking that it is the IRS (which is another agent of
the Federal Reserve, and not an agency of the United States) which has
foreclosed on it.

But in actuality it is the IRS seizing the Church and its property for the
United Nations, which will turn it over to the Jews who own the Federal
Reserve System.

And make no mistake about it. It is a theft of property for the Jewish
scum that run our government from behind the scenes because it is very
valuable property and will bring them huge profits. For they are getting the
property for
only a small sum, and will sell it for uncounted millions.

There are bills which have already been passed by Congress which has
removed the oath to defend the United States and the Constitution against
all enemies,domestic and foreign from the U.S. Marshals office and which
have placed them under the control of INTERPOL. A few of them are as
follows:

The Secretary of the Treasury as an employee of
the International Monetary Fund (IMF, a Jewish
owned independent foreign corporation) and
"Receiver" in the National Bankruptcy (See:
Reorganization Plan No. 26, 5 U.S.C.A. 903, Public Law 94-564). U.S.
District Court Judges are immune from civil torts and are members of an
"independent judiciary" paid by the IMF controlled Treasury Department.

Disavowal of the Loyalty Oath and Treason - The
Civil Service Commission suspended the loyalty oath (See: The Stewart
Case, 1970) for all federal employees and many agencies have transferred
allegiance to the U.N. through "Service Agreements" and "Memorandums of
Understanding" (MOUs).

The U.S. Marshals' Oath to the Constitution under 28 U.S.C. 563 was
deleted (Congressional Record H7935, 9/22/88 - House) and subverted to
INTERPOL et al, by U.N. mandate 22 U.S.C. 263(A).

These wholesale repudiations of governmental accountability to the people
under Article 6 of the U.S. Constitution should be construed as a hostile
takeover and Act of War.

28 U.S.C 563. Oath of office: "The Director and
EACH UNITED STATES MARSHALL and law
enforcement officer of the Service, before taking office, shall take an
oath or affirmation to faithfully execute the duties of that office." You
will notice: Each U.S. Marshall and law enforcement officer of the
service...shall take an oath or affirmation to faithfully
execute the duties of that office and not to protect the United States and
the Constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic.

28 U.S.C. 566. Powers and duties. "(a) It is the
primary role and mission of the United States
Marshals Service to provide for the security and to obey, execute, and
enforce all orders of the United States District Courts, the United States
Courts of Appeals and THE COURT OF INTERNATIONAL
TRADE...

(d) Each United States Marshal, deputy marshal,
and any other official of the Service as may be
designated by the Director MAY CARRY FIREARMS
and MAKE ARRESTS WITHOUT WARRANT for any
offense against the United States committed IN HIS OR HER PRESENCE, or for
any felony recognizable under the laws of the United States IF HE OR SHE HAS
REASONABLE GROUNDS TO BELIEVE THAT THE PERSON TO BE ARRESTED HAS COMMITTED
OR IS COMMITTING SUCH FELONY...

(e)(1) The United States Marshals Service is
authorized to:...

(B) investigate such fugitive matters, BOTH
WITHIN AND OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES..."
(Title 28 - Judiciary and Judicial Procedure, page 187)

    CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE: Section-
by-Section Analysis - United States Marshals Service
Act...  "Amended section 563 provides generally that
the director, U.S. Marshals, and all law enforcement
officers of the Service MUST TAKE AN OATH TO
FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THEIR
OFFICES. The sections DELETE THE SPECIFIC OATH
PRESCRIBED by the current section 563, CERTAIN
OF THE LANGUAGE THEREIN HAVING BECOME
OBSOLETE.

    Amended section 564...PURCHASES OF
EVIDENCE....

    Amended section 566...authorizes law
enforcement officials of the Service to carry firearms and to make
arrests, and it authorizes the Service to provide personal protection to
judges and other Federal officials AND TO CONDUCT FUGITIVE INVESTIGATIONS,
DOMESTIC AND FOREIGN...

 Section 3...The high volume of activity occurring within the national
asset SEIZURE AND FORFEITURE PROGRAM is generating a significant demand for
the services of qualified experts in various fields to assure the accurate
identification and immediate, secure
management of a wide range OF ASSETS SEIZED BY
FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES FROM
INDIVIDUALS ALLEGEDLY engaged in drug
trafficking and illicit activities..."

(Congressional Record - House, September 22, 1988, Column 2 par. 6; Column
3, par. 1, 2 and 5, page H7935)

22 U.S.C. 262 p-5. "Definitions. For purposes of
this title and titles XIV and XV -

    (1) the term 'multilateral development bank'
means the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development, the
International Development
Association, and the regional multilateral
development banks; and

    (2) The term 'regional multilateral development
bank' means the Inter-American Development Bank,
the African Development Bank, the African
Development Fund, and the Asian Development
Bank...

    262q. Multilateral development bank
procurement.

    (2) Function. The officer shall act as the liaison
between the Department of the Treasury, the
Department of Commerce, and the United States
Executive Directors' offices in the multilateral
development banks, in carrying out this section...

(b) 'Multilateral development bank' defined. As
used in this section, the term 'multilateral
development bank' includes the International Bank for the Reconstruction
and Development, the
International Development Association, the
International Finance Corporation, the Inter-American Development Bank,
the Inter-American Investment Corporation, the Asian Development Bank, the
African Development Bank, and the African Development Fund...

 263. International Prison Commission. The United States shall continue as
an adhering member of the International Prison Commission and participate in
the word of said commission...

 263a. International Criminal Police Organization {InterPol}. The Attorney
General is authorized to accept and maintain, on behalf of the United
States, membership in the International Criminal Police Organization
{InterPol}, and to designate any departments and agencies which may
participate in the United States representation with that organization...

    Amendments...

1958 - Pub. L. 85-768 authorized the Attorney
General to designate departments and agencies which may participate, on a
pro rata share basis, in the United States representation with the
International Criminal Police Organization {Interpol}..." (Title 22 -Foreign
Relations and Intercourse, page 45 and 46)

The following is an account by Mr. S.A. Freeman,
Editor of "The Citizen's Claw."

 WARNING TO AMERICA'S CHRISTIANS! WILL
YOUR CHURCH BE NEXT? C.I.A. ORDERS ARREST
AND EXECUTION OF CHRISTIANS IN THE U.S.:
"On the afternoon of April 7th {in the early eighties} somewhere in the
Washington, D.C., area, I spent four hours at a very secret meeting with
people who were risking their lives by being there. There was a general
from the U.S. Army, a Colonel from Military
Intelligence, a Colonel from the U.S. Marines, a U.S. Senator, three
members of the C.I.A., and a person of very high rank from the {Canadian}
M.P.'s.  The meeting produced the following information: I was shown two
documents stamped Top Secret. One document was signed by President Reagan
and the other was signed by William Colby. Both documents referred to the
Christians as "THE DISRUPTERS." The C.I.A., document was to the Pentagon and
stated that the OFFICIAL department of Justice's {F.B.I.}
terminology for Christians will be " THE
DISRUPTER'S MOVEMENT." The William Colby
document proceeded to outline a plan FOR THE
ARREST, EXECUTION, OR MENTAL REHABILITATION OF ALL DISRUPTERS. The plan
proceeds as follows:

    STAGE ONE: to terminate with extreme prejudice {that means to kill in
cold blood} ALL DISRUPTERS who are publicly interfering with "Operation
Cablesplice" {Operation Cablesplice is the plan to take over all municipal,
county and state governments INTO ONE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THEN TO A WORLD
GOVERNMENT}.

 STAGE TWO: To arrest either on criminal charges
or on mental inquest warrants all disrupters who
JEOPARDIZE Operation Cablesplice BY THEIR
FANATICAL RELIGIOUS LIFE-STYLES and/or their
EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS which would
ENABLE THEM TO LIVE OUTSIDE OF
GOVERNMENT DIRECTION AND AID. SOME
STAGE TWO DISRUPTERS WILL HAVE TO BE
TERMINATED AS THEY CAN'T BE
REHABILITATED.

    STAGE THREE: To arrest either on criminal
charges or on mental inquest warrants ALL THOSE
WHO HAVE LISTENED TO AND FOLLOWED THE
COLLABORATORS AND INFILTRATORS. Plus the
arrest of all collaborators. The confiscation of all wealth and property
for it is estimated that half the wealth in the U.S. is in their hands.
Stage three does not apply to infiltrators or government agents.

    STAGE ONE IS UNDER IMPLEMENTATION
NOW. Did federal agents DELIBERATELY
INCINERATE MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN AT
THE WACO, TEXAS BURN-OUT ON APRIL 19,
1993? Well, there is little doubt from the actions of Federal Agents over
the past few years that IT IS OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT POLICY, {although still
covert at this time} TO KILL MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN IF THEY HAPPEN TO BE
CHRISTIANS WHO REFUSE TO RECOGNIZE GOVERNMENT AS
THEIR GOD. Now you know WHY they were
incinerated so Christians had better conduct all of their future affairs
with this plan in mind.

    PROFESSOR CLAIMS U.S. A COMMUNIST
NATION: The United States is one of the most
successful communist nations in history, is the opinion of Butler D.
Shaffer, who teaches law at Southwestern University, Los Angeles. "I am
amused at all of my conservative friends who really think that America is
involved in a struggle with the forces of communism,"
Shaffer declared in an opinion column of the Santa Ana Register, on
December 18, 1983. "In point of fact," he pointed out, "the struggle is over
Communism won."

Excerpts from Shaffers's column, printed below,
may shock many who have not realized the extent
that their freedoms have been eroded. Shaffer's
column continues in part: Who is the owner of human life? Once that
question is answered we have the answer to the follow-up question: who gets
to decide what will happen to the life of any given person?

Any system ruled over by political authorities has already answered both
these questions: the State owns all life within its borders, and the State
has the ultimate decision-making authority over that life. The State decides
whether any given life shall be sacrificed to its war games: the State
decides how much of our life shall be spent producing wealth for it; the State
decides how we shall take care of "our" bodies,
whether by directing us to wear seat belts or
prohibiting us from consuming what it considers
harmful substances; the State decides whether
children shall go to school, and when they shall go, and where; the State
decides what conduct of ours shall be permitted {"legal"} and what shall be
prohibited {"illegal"}. The struggle is over,
Communism won.

Based on the public testimony of Professor Shaffer, whose conclusions can
be supported with massive documentation, it can NOW BE LAWFULLY STATED AS
FACT, that ANY PERSON THAT WORKS FOR
"THE GOVERNMENT" (from city to federal) or is
affiliated with the Democrat or Republican Political Parties, IS ACTIVELY
ENGAGED IN THE
"OVERTHROW OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL AND
'REPUBLICAN' FORM OF GOVERNMENT" AND IS
GUILTY OF THE FELONIES SHOWN ABOVE
GOVERNMENT'S BUSINESS, as well as the business
of the two major political parties, is the "enforcement" and "promotion"
of SOCIALISM/COMMUNISM, which are "violations" of our FUNDAMENTAL LAWS.
 

TRAITOR McCain

jewn McCain

ASSASSIN of JFK, Patton, many other Whites

killed 264 MILLION Christians in WWII

killed 64 million Christians in Russia

holocaust denier extraordinaire--denying the Armenian holocaust

millions dead in the Middle East

tens of millions of dead Christians

LOST $1.2 TRILLION in Pentagon
spearheaded torture & sodomy of all non-jews
millions dead in Iraq

42 dead, mass murderer Goldman LOVED by jews

serial killer of 13 Christians

the REAL terrorists--not a single one is an Arab

serial killers are all jews

framed Christians for anti-semitism, got caught
left 350 firemen behind to die in WTC

legally insane debarred lawyer CENSORED free speech

mother of all fnazis, certified mentally ill

10,000 Whites DEAD from one jew LIE

moser HATED by jews: he followed the law

f.ck Jesus--from a "news" person!!

1000 fold the child of perdition

 

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