How to Spot jews,
judeochristians, and other enemies of God
"Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and
am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I
count them mine enemies", Psalms 139:21-22
"Now we command you, brethren, on the name of
our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh
disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us", 2 Thessalonians 3:6
The following enemies of God and the state walkelth
disorderly and not in the tradition which He received us:
From: Ken To: firstname.lastname@example.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 4:08 PM Subject: [theseries] JOHN KNIGHT CLAIMS
BIBLE IS WRONG
Peace be with you
John Knight has been shown passages from the Holy Bible and has replied that what is
written there is not the truth.
For example: (John's comments are in red....his choice)
Paul says that he is a Pharisee and the son of a Pharisee
Absolutely no way, Ken. Paul claimed only to have
studied under the Pharisee Gamaliel, but he obviously *rejected* those teachings, didn't
Look at the passage in question:
Acts 23:6 But when Paul perceived that the one part were Sadducees, and the other
Pharisees, he cried out in the council, Men and brethren, I am a Pharisee , the son of a
Pharisee: of the hope and resurrection of the dead I am called in question.
The quote "I am a Pharisee , the son of a Pharisee.." speaks volumes
about where John Knight is with respect to the Holy Bible. He so easily states that
the Bible is wrong.
Only a jew would continue to claim, long after it's been
pointed out to him that Paul was one of the greatest critics of jews of all time,
understood judaism to the nth degree and rightly abandoned that screed early in life, was
persecuted and possibly killed by jews, was himself a "jew" or never condemned
his own position as a "pharisee".
Let's go on:
The Pharisees were to be listened to for they spoke the law of Moses
No. Jesus said "beware the yeast of the
Pharisees", which is His major complaint that they did NOT follow or uphold the law
of Moses, but instead preached the "traditions" of men, which later became the
Look at the passage I referred to:
Matthew 23:1 ï¿½ Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses seat:
3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye
after their works: for they say, and do not.
John tells us plainly..."No" that the Pharisees were
not to be listened to....yet that is not what Jesus said. Again he places himself
above the Holy Bible, claiming that what is written there is wrong.
Only a jew would proclaim that Jesus
Christ's warning "beware the yeast of the Pharisees" is tantamount to a lesson
to adhere to the teachings of the Pharisees at the same time that he would proclaim
that Jesus Christ's statement that He came to "fulfill the law" means
"change" rather than "uphold" God's Law.
Only a jew would ignore that Christ
condemned the Pharisees for their hypocrisy for preaching the "traditions of the
elders" [read: man's law] while refusing to live by and uphold God's Law.
Only a jew would ignore that, to this
day, jews uphold "man's law" through the Talmud while Israelites uphold God's
Law through the Holy Bible.
Yet again John goes against the Bible:
The Pharisees were also Israelites (at least Paul is an Israelite Pharisee)
No. Paul was not born as a jew nor Pharisee, he did not
live in Judaea and was not a resident of Judaea, or a Judaean, and he never claimed to BE
a Pharisee nor a "jew", but claimed only to have "become *as* a jew",
which means that he studied their religion so he could understand them better, not that he
ever agreed with even one word of their screed.
Paul WAS an Israelites, but he was NOT a
"jew" by race, nor even by citizenship.
Read what Paul said:
Act 22:3 "I am a Jew, born in Tarsus of Cilicia, but
brought up in this city, educated under Gamaliel, strictly according to the law of our
fathers, being zealous for God just as you all are today.
Act 21:39 But Paul said, "I am a Jew of Tarsus in Cilicia, a citizen of no
insignificant city; and I beg you, allow me to speak to the people."
John would have us believe that Paul never
claimed to be a Jew or a Pharisee, yet that is not what is recorded in the Holy Bible.
Only a jew would continue to ignore the difference
between a jew by race, a jew by religion, and a jew by virtue of being a resident of
Judaea, particularly after it's been explained numerous times.
Only a jew would ignore what Paul meant when he said "I
became as a jew in order to gain the jews".
Christians and jews clearly have a "difference of
opinion" here, but Christians know what it means and jews never do.
If Pharisees who are Jews are also Israelites then Jesus who is an Israelite is also a
No. Not even the few "jews" who were
descendants of Abraham were descendants of Jacob, because they were descendants of
Esau/Edom. Jesus WAS a descendant of Abraham, AND of Jacob, not Esau/Edom. They were two
John Knight wants us to believe that Abraham fathered
two different races. He even states that they all came from Abraham, yet tries to
twist the Bible to somehow show they are two different races. They are all from the
bloodline of Abraham. There can be only one race there.
Only a jew would make such a silly argument. Even
jews believe that every race on the planet is a descendant of Adam and Eve, and even jews
admit that these numerous races are separate and distinct races. But now suddenly we
are to believe that all descendants of Abraham are of the same race even though the Holy
Bible makes it clear that Israelites and Edomites are two SEPARATE and distinct races?
Not a chance.
There's nothing in the entire Holy Bible, nor in anything you've
cited, nor in Strong's, nor anywhere else that I'm aware of, that even hints that the ten
northern tribes of Israel [read: descendants of Jacob] were ever referred to as
John is shown clearly in the Book of Ezra where the children
of Israel (Israelites) are called Jews after they return to Jerusalem from the Babylonian
Captivity. (I will not paste that in here, you can look it up for yourselves if you
didn't read it from my earlier post)
It is summed up nicely in this from Easton's Revised Bible Dictionary:
The name derived from the patriarch Judah, at first given to one belonging to the
tribe of Judah or to the separate kingdom of Judah #2Ki 16:6 25:25 Jer 32:12 38:19 40:11
41:3 in contradistinction from those belonging to the kingdom of the ten tribes, who were
called Israelites. During the Captivity, and after the Restoration, the name, however, was
extended to all the Hebrew nation without distinction #Es 3:6,10 Da 3:8,12 Ezr 4:12 5:1,5
Originally this people were called Hebrews #Ge 39:14 40:15 Ex 2:7 3:18 5:3 1Sa 4:6,9 etc.,
but after the Exile this name fell into disuse. But Paul was styled a Hebrew #2Co 11:22
Php 3:5 The history of the Jewish nation is interwoven with the history of Palestine and
with the narratives of the lives of their rulers and chief men.
Part of John's sidestepping response was
If we should trust anybody's words on this issue, it is Jesus
Christ and St. Paul we should trust...
I wonder what is wrong with trusting the Holy Bible and the
Book of Ezra? Isn't the Bible the inspired word of God....and we aren't to trust
that anymore.....why, because it doesn't say what John Knight wants it to say.
No Christian who reads Ezra 4 could possibly accept the
proposition that jews and Israelites were considered to be of the same race, as Ken is
advancing here. The enemies of Judah and Benjamin" referred to in this
Scripture are the *jews*:
(Ezr 4:1) And when the enemies of
Judah and Benjamin heard that the sons of the exile built the temple to Jehovah the God of
(Ezr 4:5) And they hired
counselors against them to break their purpose all the days of Cyrus king of Persia, even
until the reign of Darius king of Persia.
(Ezr 4:6) And in the reign of Ahasuerus, in the beginning of his
reign, they wrote an accusation against the people of Judah and Jerusalem.
Only jews refuse to acknowledge that the people who
"hired counselors", the "enemies of Judah and Benjamin", were JEWS,
John has already shown us what he thinks of St Paul's words
when he flatly said they were not true as shown above. He seems to now want to
ignore the Old Testament that clearly shows where and when the children of Israel were
first called Jews. Is he hoping the Old Testament will somehow go away so he won't
have to ace the reality of what is written there. I don't know...I only know that he
keeps stating again and again that what is written in the Bible is wrong. YET...he
claims to be a Christian.
And here you have it!
Jews "misunderstand" almost every principle known
to mankind, every policy in every country they ever lived in, and then whine that the
world has no reason whatsoever to "hate" them because they're just hapless,
frail creatures who constantly need protection from a cruel world that simply doesn't
understand the magnitude of their beneficence.
Unfortunately for them, Christians around the world view
this as nothing less than blasphemy.
I could continue, but I think my point is clearly made. John Knight has
directly stated that the Holy Bible is WRONG.
No. Absolutely nowhere in any single word, statement,
post, message, or any other written source could this jew even begin to hint that this
Christian believes that "the Holy Bible is wrong". What this Christian
does know with certainty is that this Christian nation will thrive when this type of
word-mandering, blasphemy, LYING, misrepresentation, disingenuousness, and
anti-Christianity is ended with finality and certainty!
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [theseries] about the Bible, Jesus and Paul
At 11:58 PM 10/24/2001, you wrote:
- John...I'm surprised...there may be hope for you after all......You say we should trust
the two Jews, Jesus Christ and St. Paul. I thought you'd never admit to trusting any
Jew, let alone two of them at once.
- This is sheer blasphemy, Ken. It's not even funny. Both Christ and Paul were
Israelites who were KILLED by jews, and here you are claiming that I trust jews.
- In case you missed it, I DO NOT trust jews, who are inveterate LIARS! If you don't
know why they're LIARS, all you need to do is read part of the Talmud talmud.htm Both Christ and Paul accused them of being both LIARS and
descendants of LIARS. Language doesn't get much stronger than that, does it?
- John Knight
What is not funny, John, is the way you twist the Word of God to fit into your hate
filled anti-Christian anti-Jew agenda. Christ did not preach hatred, He preached
love and forgiveness.
John, you seem to easily forget that as Jesus told us..... no one takes His life from Him,
He lays it down freely. Jesus gave His life...it was not taken from Him.