God HATED Esau
Hebrews 12:16-17 Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright. For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.
"Edom is in modern Jewry" The Jewish Encyclopedia, 1925 edition, Vol. 5, Page 41
And Rebekah saith unto Isaac, `I have been disgusted with my life because of the presence of the daughters of Heth; if Jacob take a wife of the daughters of Heth, like these--from the daughters of the land--why do I live?' Genesis 27:46
When Esau saw that Isaac had blessed Jacob, and sent him away to Padanaram, to take him a wife from thence; and that as he blessed him he gave him a charge, saying, Thou shalt not take a wife of the daughters of Canaan; Genesis 28:6
And that Jacob obeyed his father and his mother, and was gone to Padanaram; Genesis 28:7
And Esau seeing that the daughters of Canaan pleased not Isaac his father; Genesis 28:8
Then went Esau unto Ishmael, and took unto the wives which he had Mahalath the daughter of Ishmael Abraham's son, the sister of Nebajoth, to be his wife. Genesis 28:9
Was not Esau Jacob's brother? says the LORD: yet I loved Jacob, but hated Esau; I made his mountains a waste, his heritage a desert for jackals, Malachai 1:3
As it is written: "I loved Jacob but hated Esau," Romans 9:13
· jews are Edom.
· Edomite jew John Hyrcanus.
· Who exactly call themselves “jews”?
· Esau and the Talmud.
· Thou shalt not abhor an Edomite? Or a Syrian?
Oba 1:9 And thy mighty [men], O Teman, shall be dismayed, to the end that every one of the mount of Esau may be cut off by slaughter.
Oba 1:10 For [thy] violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever.
Oba 1:11 In the day that thou stoodest on the other side, in the day that the strangers carried away captive his forces, and foreigners entered into his gates, and cast lots upon Jerusalem, even thou [wast] as one of them.
“Country in SE Palestine, also called Mount Seir. It’s terrain was mountainous and easily fortified and its land was fertile. Edom lay south of the Dead Sea and bordered on the Red Sea at Elath and Ezion Geber. The Edomites were of Semitic origin, traditionally descendants of Esau, and lived by hunting. They dispossessed the Horite inhabitants of Seir and organized themselves along tribal lines headed by a chieftan (called allooph), later consolidating into a monarchy. The Edomites were traditional enemies of the Israelites; they fought Saul and were defeated by David who partly annexed their land. The Edomites regained their independence during the reign of Jehoram, but wars between the two states were frequent. In the Eighth Century BCE, the Edomites became vassals of Assyria. At the time of the destruction of the First Temple, they plundered and looted in association with the Babylonians, and being driven out from Seir by the Natabeans, occupied S Judah during or after the period of the Exile. The Edomites were conquered by John Hyrcanus who forcibly converted them to Judaism, and from then on they constituted a part of the Jewish people, Herod being one of their descendants. During Titus’s siege of Jerusalem, they marched in to reinforce the extreme elements, killing all they suspected of peace tendencies. Thereafter, they ceased to figure in Jewish history. The name in the Talmud is a synonym for an oppressive government, especially Rome: in the Middle Ages, it was applied to Christian Europe”, The Standard Jewish Encyclopedia, 1966, Doubleday & Company, Inc., Garden City, New York, Pg. 592, edited by Cecil Roth, Library of Congress Control no. 66021008, call number DS102.8 .S73 1966a.
If jews will ADMIT to being descendants of Edomites who were “forcibly converted [ ] to Judaism”, then the TRUTH must be far worse than that, and in the opposite direction, as is the case for most jew writings. What could be far worse and in the opposite direction?
1. Edomites did not convert, it was THEY who created Judaism.
2. It was Edomites who forcibly converted ISRAELITES to Judaism.
3. It was THEY who brought “Judaism” from Assyria [where Hamadan, Iran is today] to Palestine.
4. It was Edomites who coined the word “jew”, as Israelites had never used that word before this forced association with Edomites.
5. When Paul rejected Judaism and apologized to his fellow Israelites, as Paul witnessed more than 30 times, “the jews tried to kill me”:
· for ye did hear of my behaviour once in Judaism, that exceedingly I was persecuting the assembly of God, and wasting it, Galatians 1:13
By what process could Edomites have “ceased to figure in Jewish history”? Unless jews themselves KILLED every jew with Edomite blood in them, which we have no record they ever did, their genetic ancestry is permanently polluted by, and DEFINED by, Edomite ancestry.
Edomites ARE jews!
Gen 27:37 And Isaac answered and said unto Esau, Behold, I have made him thy lord, and all his brethren have I given to him for servants; and with corn and wine have I sustained him: and what shall I do now unto thee, my son?
Gen 27:38 And Esau said unto his father, Hast thou but one blessing, my father? bless me, even me also, O my father. And Esau lifted up his voice, and wept.
Gen 27:39 And Isaac his father answered and said unto him, Behold, thy dwelling shall be the fatness of the earth, and of the dew of heaven from above;
Gen 27:40 And by thy sword shalt thou live, and shalt serve thy brother; and it shall come to pass when thou shalt have the dominion, that thou shalt break his yoke from off thy neck.
Gen 27:41 And Esau hated Jacob because of the blessing wherewith his father blessed him: and Esau said in his heart, The days of mourning for my father are at hand; then will I slay my brother Jacob.
Obad 1:10 10 For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever. (KJV)
Gen 26:34-35 And Esau was forty years old when he took to wife Judith the daughter of Beeri the Hittite, and Basemath the daughter of Elon the Hittite; who were a grief of spirit to Isaac and to Rebekah.
(Gen 28:8) Esau realized how displeasing the Canaanite women were to his father Isaac,
Eze 25:14 And I will lay My vengeance on Edom by the hand of My people Israel. And they shall do in Edom according to My anger and according to My fury. And they shall know My vengeance, says the Lord Jehovah.
(Heb 12:16) that no one be an immoral or profane person like Esau, who sold his birthright for a single meal.
(1Ch 1:34) Abraham became the father of Isaac. The sons of Isaac were Esau and Israel.
(2Ch 21:10) However, Edom has continued in revolt against the sovereignty of Judah down to the present time. Libnah also revolted at that time against Jehoram's sovereignty because he had forsaken the LORD, the God of his fathers.
(2Ch 28:17) The Edomites had returned, attacked Judah, and carried off captives.
(Eze 16:57) before your wickedness became evident? Now you are like her, reproached by the Edomites and all your neighbors, despised on all sides by the Philistines.
(Gen 27:11) "But my brother Esau is a hairy man," said Jacob to his mother Rebekah, "and I am smooth-skinned!
(Gen 36:2) Esau took his wives from among the Canaanite women: Adah, daughter of Elon the Hittite; Oholibamah, granddaughter through Anah of Zibeon the Hivite;
(Gen 36:6) Esau took his wives, his sons, his daughters, and all the members of his household, as well as his livestock comprising various animals and all the property he had acquired in the land of Canaan, and went to the land of Seir, out of the way of his brother Jacob.
(Gen 36:43) Magdiel, and Iram. These are the clans of the Edomites, according to their settlements in their territorial holdings. (Esau was the father of the Edomites.)
(Deu 2:4) Give this order to the people: You are now about to pass through the territory of your kinsmen, the descendants of Esau, who live in Seir. Though they are afraid of you, be very careful
(Deu 2:5) not to come in conflict with them, for I will not give you so much as a foot of their land, since I have already given Esau possession of the highlands of Seir.
(Deu 2:12) In Seir, however, the former inhabitants were the Horites; the descendants of Esau dispossessed them, clearing them out of the way and taking their place, just as the Israelites have done in the land of their heritage which the LORD has given them.)
(Jer 49:8) Flee, retreat, hide in deep holes, you who live in Dedan: For I will bring destruction upon Esau when I come to punish him.
(Jer 49:10) So I myself will strip Esau; I will uncover his retreats so that he cannot hide. He is ruined: sons, and brothers, and neighbors, so that he is no more.
(Oba 1:8) Shall I not, says the LORD, on that day make the wise men disappear from Edom, and understanding from the mount of Esau?
(Oba 1:9) Your warriors, O Teman, shall be crushed, till all on Mount Esau are destroyed.
(Oba 1:18) The house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame; The house of Esau shall be stubble, and they shall set them ablaze and devour them; Then none shall survive of the house of Esau, for the LORD has spoken.
(Oba 1:21) And saviors shall ascend Mount Zion to rule the mount of Esau, and the kingship shall be the LORD'S.
From Easton's Dictionary:
Edomite tribes settled also in the south of Judah, like the Kenizzites (Gen_36:11), to whom Caleb and Othniel belonged (Jos_15:17). The southern part of Edom was known as Teman
(2.) Idumea (Isa_34:5-6; Eze_35:15). "The field of Edom" (Gen_32:3), "the land of Edom" (Gen_36:16), was mountainous (Oba_1:8-9, Oba_1:19, Oba_1:21). It was called the land, or "the mountain of Seir," the rough hills on the east side of the Arabah. It extended from the head of the Gulf of Akabah, the Elanitic gulf, to the foot of the Dead Sea (1Ki_9:26), and contained, among other cities, the rock-hewn Sela (q.v.), generally known by the Greek name Petra (2Ki_14:7). It is a wild and rugged region, traversed by fruitful valleys. Its old capital was Bozrah (Isa_63:1). The early inhabitants of the land were Horites. They were destroyed by the Edomites (Deu_2:12), between whom and the kings of Israel and Judah there was frequent war (2Ki_8:20; 2Ch_28:17).
Jer 40:11 Also when all the Jews in Moab, and among the Ammonites, and in Edom, and in all the countries, heard that the king of Babylon had left a remnant of Judah, and that he had set over them Gedaliah the son of Ahikam, the son of Shaphan;
Jer 41:3 Ishmael also killed all the Jews who were with him, with Gedaliah, at Mizpah, and the Chaldeans who were found there, the men of war.
2Ch 20:1 And it happened after this the sons of Moab, and the sons of Ammon came in, and with them others besides the Ammonites, to battle against Jehoshaphat.
"Jews" in the Old Testament is translated from the Hebrew word "Yhuwdiy" which is Strong's #3064: patronymically from 3063; a Jehudite (i.e. Judaite or Jew), or descendant of Jehudah (i.e. Judah):--Jew.
Gen 6:10 And Noah fathered three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
Gen 9:18 And the sons of Noah that went out of the ark were Shem, Ham, and Japheth. And Ham is the father of Canaan.
Gen 10:6 And Ham's sons were Cush, and Mizraim, and Put, and Canaan.
Gen 10:7 And the sons of Cush were Seba and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtecha. And Raamah's sons were Sheba and Dedan.
Jer 36:14 And all the rulers sent Jehudi, the son of Nethaniah, the son of Shelemiah, the son of Cushi, to Baruch, saying, Take the scroll in your hand, in which you have read in the ears of the people, and come. So Baruch, the son of Neriah, took the scroll in his hand and came to them.
Thus the "jews" in the Old Testament were not descendants of Shem [read: Semites], Eber [read: Hebrews], Abraham [read: children of Abraham], nor Jacob [read: Israelites]. They were Moabites, Cushites, Canaanites, Edomites, they lived among the Ammonites, but they were never Israelites.
--- scott michaels email@example.com wrote:
"34" "In the GENESIS 25 story of Esau selling the birthright to Jacob, we read that he sold it for 'red pottage...therefore was his name called Edom.' Edom means 'Red'.
"35" "GENESIS 28:9 tells us that Esau went 'unto Ishmael and took unto the wives which he had Mahalath the daughter of Ishmael,' GENESIS 36:2 says he also 'took his wives of the daughters of Canaan; Adah the daughter of Elon the Hittite, and Aholibaman the daughter of Anah the daughter of Zibeon the Hivite.' So these descendants of Esau would be called ISHMAELITES, CANAANITES, HITTITES, AND HIVITES! The very people God later ordered Israel NOT to marry!
"36" "God makes sure we know of the separation of Esau and Jacob (Israel), for GENESIS 36:6 tells us, 'Esau took his wives, and his sons, and his daughters...and went into the country from the face of his brother Jacob.' Therefore Esau's offspring would NOT take husbands and wives from the Hebrews, BUT FROM THE ISMAELITES AND CANAANITES AMONG WHOM THEY DWELT! In a few generations they would be almost full-blooded ISMAELITES and CANAANITES.
"37" "The rest of GENESIS 36 tells us four times that Esau 'is Edom' and the 'father of Edomites.' Adding this up we would expect Esau's progeny to be known as Ishmaelites, Canaanities, Hittites, Hivites, or collectively as 'EDOMITES'. Remember as you read on that Edom means 'Red'.
"38" "Several hundred years later when God delivered the Israelites from Egypt, NUMBERS 20 tells us THE FIRST PEOPLE TO FIGHT THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL WERE THE 'EDOMITES'! All the books of history in the Bible tell of ENMITY AND WAR between Israel and 'Edom'. As I've shown, the Exodus Israelites were NOT called 'Jews'. Only Israelites of the Judah Kingdom (500 years after the Exodus) were called Jews, from the name 'Judahite'. (2 KINGS 16:6)
"39" "In the book of Esther, when the king sent out the decree to protect the 'Jews' (who were the Judahites of the Babylonian captivity), 'many of the people of the land BECAME JEWS; for the fear of the jews fell upon them.' (ESTHER 8:17) This king ruled 'from India unto Ethiopia' compassing the territory occupied by the Hittites, Hivites, Jebusites and Canaanites, so it is probable that tens of thousands of these people collectively known as 'EDOM' professed the name 'Jew' to escape the king's wrath. They were NOT descendants of Jacob-Israel, though they had now become 'Jews'. This was 500 years BEFORE Christ.
"40" "In EZRA 9:1 after the Jewish remnant returned to Palestine, we find they took wives among the Hittites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Jebusites, Ammonites, Moabites, Egyptians, and the Amorites; thereby adding more of 'Edom' to the 'Jews' who lived in Jerusalem at the coming of Jesus Christ.
"41" "Coming down through history to near the time of Christ we find that Flavius Josephus states that the 'Idumeans' (Edomites) became part of 'Jewry', as we have seen from the book of ESTHER. This would explain why some 'Jews' believed the Christ, and other 'Jews' hated Him. Those who believed were simply the ones of Israelite ancestry; while those who hated Him were of Esau-Edom! Now go back and read #23 and #32 before you go on!
"23" "You insist that Jesus came to the Jews, but in JOHN 10:26 Jesus said to the Jews, 'But ye believed me not BECAUSE YE ARE NOT OF MY SHEEP (emphasis added) as I said unto you. My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.' Which people are the 'sheep' who knew Him and have followed Him the last 1,900 years?
"32" In ISAIAH 62:2 God said to Israel, 'Thou shalt be called by a new name which the mouth of the Lord shall name.' HOSEA 2:17 reads, 'They shall no more be remembered by their name.' In ISAIAH 65 God said to the enemies of His servant Israel, 'And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto My chosen; for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, AND CALL HIS SERVANTS BY ANOTHER NAME.' (emphasis added) These 'enemies' are yet called by their ancient name of 'Jew', but Israel lost her name and identity, became the 'Caucasian' Race (from the mountains of our captivity), and now the 'Christian' nations, named after the Name of our God and our Redeemer, the Lord Jesus Christ, are FULFILLING HIS PROPHECIES TO ISRAEL!
"42" "The BIBLICA ENCYCLOPEDIA, Vol. 2, Col. 1187, says that the Edomites are part of Jewry. The scientist and historian Dr. David Davidson wrote: 'Indeed the Edomites later became completely absorbed in Jewry and under their aggressive intrusion the Jews became
Have you ever wondered about this verse and its seemingly contradiction to what the rest of the Scriptures say about Edom. Well many of us have and we present the following from Pastor Clifton A. Emahiser, 1012 N. Vine Street, Fostoria, Ohio 44830; Phone No. (419) 435-2836.
As I promised you in my last teaching letter #22, I am going to clear up and document the problem with Deuteronomy 23:7. As I told you before, there are approximately 27,000 transnational errors in our present Bibles. Some various translations by various translators have attempted to clean up many of these discrepancies, but the errors are very numerous and overwhelming. The translation of Deuteronomy 23:7 is one of them. I will start by quoting this passage:
"Thou shalt not abhor an Edomite; for he is thy brother: thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian; because thou was a stranger in his land."
From this verse it would appear that we should welcome all Edomites into our congregations with open arms, and with no questions asked, and that we are somehow guilty of some dire contemptible sin for even thinking an evil thought against them. I ask you: Is this not the impression which seized upon you when you read this passage for the first time? Remember the guilty, dirty, condemning feeling which overcame you for even giving the Edomites the slightest hint of disparaging thought, that possibly Yahweh might suddenly kill you in your very tracks for even blinking an eye?
If this has been your reaction when reading this passage in the past, forget it, for that is not what this verse is saying; not even remotely. I happened upon this verse many years ago when I was listening to a presentation by an Identity speaker who was making reference to the Edomites by using this verse as one of his points. At the time, I decided to look into the Hebrew meaning of the word "Edomite" for myself. I found the Strong's Exhaustive Concordance Of The Bible," assigned the term "Edomite" the Hebrew word "130 which says:
"130 ... Edômîy, ...Edôwmîy, ed-o-mee': patronymic [derived from father's name] from #123; an Edomite, or descendant from (or inhabitant of) Edom: Edomite. See #726 Which had the following to say:
#726 ... Arôwmîy, ar-o-mee'; A CLERICAL ERROR FOR #130; an Edomite (as in the margin): Syrian.
At once the truth struck me (and this was about 15 years ago), for if the proper rendering was "Syrian" instead of "Edomite," it would make all the difference in the world. Over the years, since that time, I have pointed this clerical error out to many people of our persuasion. At the time, I knew this made more sense if Deuteronomy 23:7 were to correctly read "Syrian" rather than "Edomite" for the Syrians were Abraham's relatives, in which case this verse would read:
"Thou shalt not abhor a SYRIAN: for he is thy brother, thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian; because thou wast a stranger in his land."
Over the years, I have been satisfied that the word should have been Syrian instead of Edomite. I remember one party who challenged me, indicating that it was only a clerical error, and really didn't mean anything. I finally came to the conclusion that it would be a hard proposition to prove and decided not to push the point openly any further.
That is, however, until recently, when I was preparing for this lesson, I accidentally discovered what the CLERICAL ERROR was. I will now reveal to you how I made this discovery. As I had decided to take up the topic of Esau, I was in the process of reading anything and everything I could find on the subject. I was reading along in "The Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible," volume E-J, page 24, under the subtitle Edom, when I read this:
"...there are places where, because of the similarity between the letters ? (d) and ? (r), the text has wrongly read ???, 'Aram' (i.e. Syria), and ?????, 'Arameans" (i.e., Syrians), for ???, 'Edom,' and ?????, 'Edomites,' such as 2 Kings 16:6; 2 Chronicles 20:2, where the KJV has followed the MT, but the RSV has followed an emended text.
"Note: I have followed the Hebrew characters as faithfully as I know how to do on my computer; I may have made a mistake ... The main thing to notice here is the 'similarity between the letters ? (d) and ? (r). You can
see very readily, that a very small slip of the pen can change the word from Edomite to Samian, or Syrian to Edomite. I will enlarge these two Hebrew letters and place them side by side so you can observe the difference in them:
With this very small change in the Hebrew writing, and the word can be changed from Syrian to Edomite! Think of it this way, syRian or eDomite. By this above slight change, the Hebrew 'r' sound is changed to a 'd' sound.
Since I originally wrote this, I now realize that the small remnant of Judah from Jerusalem who went into Babylonian captivity spoke Hebrew when they went in and spoke Chaldee when they came out seventy years later.
Also, when they went in they were using a rounded style of Hebrew to write in, and when they came out they were using a square style of Hebrew. Is it possible that the changing from a rounded style to a square style produced such an error? Well, if it did, how many other mistakes are there because of this? After all, it is absurd to believe we should not "abhor an Edomite" when the Almighty hates them Himself.
"And I HATED ESAU, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness. Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the LORD of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, THE PEOPLE AGAINST WHOM THE LORD HATH INDIGNATION FOR EVER." (Malachi 1:3-4)
"And Edom said unto him, Thou shalt not pass by me, lest I come out against thee with the sword...And he (Edom) said, Thou shalt not go through. And Edom came out against him with much people, and with a strong hand. Thus Edom refused to give Israel passage through his border: wherefore Israel turned away from him." (Numbers 20:18-21)
[EE dum ites] descendants of Edom, or ESAU; an ancient people who were enemies of the Israelites. During the days of Abraham, the region which later became the home of the Edomites was occupied by more than one tribe of non-Israelite peoples. When Esau moved to this region with his family and possessions, the HORITES already lived in the land Genesis 36:20.