Feminists Clamor For Open
Debate--THEIR WAY OR NO WAY!
Dorothy Sacks wrote in message ...
From: James Powell <email@example.com
To: toto53 <firstname.lastname@example.org
Date: Saturday, April 24, 1999 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: DN - Troll alert - John Knight is back - please cut, paste here
Reposting to other newsgroups for informational
If your group is receiving this message it is because you are being trolled by JOHN
John Knight, one of the longest running trolls on alt.education is still posting his rants
on the "Who Needs 'Em" thread. He is also now posting to other newsgroups. Those
of us who have answered him previously suggest that before you decide to answer him, you
do a Dejanews search of the thread on alt.education and look for the answers given by Bob
LeChavalier (lojbab), James Powell (thorain), Dorothy Sacks (toto53),PK2222, VJCarr, Ron
McDermott, Dick Hamlen and others. He tends to not post any new information and his
existing material has been answered in detail often. (You can also do a power search in
Dejanews for fathersmanifesto* as author and get a feel for Mr. Knight's posts).
John seems to 'lock in' to a particular thread and seems unable to find posts in parallel
threads. Therefore, you can probably talk about him here eithout him reading and posting
to this thread. This allows a debate on the merits of John's arguments to be held, without
encouraging the continuous repetitious flow that tends to come from him.
For information about what John's true agenda is, please see the following sites:
NOTE: These are radical feminist sites with propaganda of their own (especially the Liz
site), but they counter some of John's ranting and tell you who he is. Treat the
information the same way you would that found on John's own site - with a very large dose
of salt! It is strongly suggested that you find and read original source material if you
are interested in this debate. If you feel you must answer John in some way, feel free to
cut and paste his text and answer it in this thread and others will join you. We are
hoping not to feed the troll.
For the record - We (James Powell and Dorothy Sacks) are in favor of equality for all
people, regardless of race, religion, gender, etc. There have been inequities in the past
and are inequities in the present concerning gender equality. Neither the 'feminazis' nor
the 'patriachy' have the correct solution and we reject BOTH of their positions. John is
representative of the WORST that the patriarchy/men's movement have to offer. We sincerely
hope that those groups that are truly interested in men's rights distance themselves from
this radical fringe (as the feminist movement has their more militant members)
John is presently using the Littleton shootings as some kind of indictmentof feminism and
females and in particular of female teachers. His former arguments have been answered over
and over in alt.education, so he uses a tragedy to attempt to add new fuel to his
particular fire. Please do not feed the TROLL. His statistics are being badly misused on
the fathersmanifesto website. Do NOT believe anything this man says in terms of
mathematics. He is innumerate in statistics. This has been proven time and again. If you
have a question about his statistics, we can point you to the original source material and
show you where he made his errors (please do it in a parallel thread, though). BTW - A new
strategy that John has devised is to take copies of posts from one forum and repost it
into another as part of his response. If you do a search, you may find yourself quoted out
of context by him in another newsgroup.
Dorothy Sacks and James Powell