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No reply as of August 22, 2001

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "John Knight" <fathersmanifesto@yahoo.com>

Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 8:27 AM

Subject: Re: /~manifesto/aapollgallup.htm warning

>
> Dear Mr. Perkins,
>
> Most likely you received the reply yesterday and are still checking with
> someone to track this down, but could you please provide some guidance asap
> regarding what you consider to be an acceptable way to reference your web
> site?  We are making some changes right now that require your guidance.
>
> Thanks in advance for your possible prompt reply.
>
> John Knight
>

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "John Knight" <fathersmanifesto@yahoo.com>

Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 10:36 AM

Subject: Re: /~manifesto/aapollgallup.htm warning


>
> Dear Mr. Perkins,
>
> It's good that we've made contact because this change in your web page made
> many people pretty suspicious of Gallup's agenda. Hopefully you'll
> appreciate how important this issue is, regardless of your view of abortion.
>
> The original page at:
>
> http://www.gallup.com/poll/indicators/indabortion.asp
>
> contained a section about what percentage of those polled viewed abortion as
> murder.  It showed that in 1998, 48% said "yes", 45% said "no", and 7% "no
> opinion".  We referenced this url, and then were accused of making it up.
> It was some time later that we discovered that the reason for these
> accusations is that this part was missing.  The url contains what seems to
> be the same poll but now contained no reference to those who view abortion
> as murder.
>
> This was very depressing.  This was when we decided to make actual copies of
> the page with a link back to the original url so that if anything changed,
> we at least had the original information and didn't have to continually
> update broken links.  In this particular case, we were lucky enough to have
> printed the page, and you can see a scanned image of that printed page at:
>
> http://fmi.members.easyspace.com/abortiongallup.jpg
>
> Of course it would be interesting to know why Gallup felt the need to remove
> such an important piece of information.  Your polls are extremely valuable,
> so we are also interested in knowing how we can help you promote the
> integrity of your polls.  The Fathers' Manifesto is a fatherhood
> organization with more than 2.5 million Signatories, so such issues are
> extremely important to us.  It was  an excellent and poignant Gallup poll on
> fatherhood that got us interested in you, so we hope that we discover a way
> to at least coordinate our references to your site in a way that doesn't
> adversely impact your image.  We believe we can do wonders to help it.
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> John Knight
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Evan_Perkins@gallup.com>
> To: <fathersmanifesto@yahoo.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 9:29 AM
> Subject: RE: /~manifesto/aapollgallup.htm warning
>
>
> > John:
> >
> > Could you send me the abortion article and I can have someone track it
> down?
> >
> > In checking with our technical folks, we do not change the url's of pages.
> > Once they are assigned, they remain with the data/article/information in
> > perpetuity.
> >
> > Also, we are contemplating a change starting with 2002.  While our public
> > information will still be available for 30 days from the date of their
> > original publication, after 30 days, they will only be accessible to our
> > paid subscribers.
> >
> > Let me know how I can help.
> >
> > Evan

 

 

 

From: "John Knight" <fathersmanifesto@yahoo.com>

Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 4:05 PM

Subject: Re: /~manifesto/aapollgallup.htm warning


> Dear Mr. Evans,
>
> Ah, understood.  Most of the pages that reference Gallup are just clips of
> the data, so it shouldn't appear that Gallup endorses or supports our
> endeavor (which is also to represent the truth).  One example is at:
> http://christianparty.fsn.net/gallupprayer.htm
>
> A very important poll has been changed and we haven't been able to locate
> the original data, so we scanned it and linked it to:
> http://fmi.members.easyspace.com/abortiongallup.jpg
>
> Since Crosswinds has removed our site, we need to track down all of the
> url's which reference Gallup.  One thing we considered doing, which is
> probably unacceptable to you in light of your email, is using the archive
> .mht format which would enable people to see your web page in its exact
> original format.
> http://fmi.members.easyspace.com/gallup60yeartrends.mht
>
> Your courteous response is much appreciated--we will work with you in any
> way that we can to protect your image, at the same time that we properly
> promote many of the truths that can be learned only by responsible polls
> like yours.  Whatever you recommend as the best way to link to your site is
> what we will do.
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> John Knight
>
>
>
>

 

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Evan_Perkins@gallup.com>
> To: <fathersmanifesto@yahoo.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 3:36 PM
> Subject: RE: /~manifesto/aapollgallup.htm warning
>
>
> > John:
> >
> > Thanks for the response.
> >
> > I would be glad to review your links and see if they might need some
> > pruning.  Please forward them to me and I will review them as quickly as
> > possible.
> >
> > Finally, as a general rule, we allow folks to use links to our sites.  One
> > thing that gets me "jazzed up" in managing our worldwide intellectual
> > property is the misappropriation of the "look and feel" of our pages.
> > Please do not pull those things from our sites, it gives the impression of
> > our endorsement of your site and your cause, I have no idea what your site
> > is about, but Gallup doesn't really care what your cause is, we just care
> > about reporting the truth to you and the world and remaining totally
> > objective without endorsing any movement or cause.  You see, our integrity
> > is our stock in trade -- we can't been seen to endorse causes, movements,
> > issues, or people.
> >
> > I hope you understand.
> >
> > Thanks for your e-mail.  It speaks volumes about your integrity.
> >
> > Evan

 

From: "John Knight" <fathersmanifesto@yahoo.com>

Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 2:55 PM

Subject: Re: /~manifesto/aapollgallup.htm warning


> Dear Mr. Perkins,
>
> We have a number of other references to Gallup besides that one page.  If
> you would like, we will forward them to you to see if they might also
> violate your copyright, so that we can remove them.  The idea is not to take
> advantage of your copyright, but to maintain the url's in some form that
> doesn't require them to be continually updated.  What happens is that, when
> we link from our page to your url and you change your pages, which happens
> frequently, our link is broken.
>
> Of particular interest to many of the viewers of the FM web site is your
> abortion poll, which no longer contains all the original information that it
> did when we first analyzed it.  We have a scanned copy of the original
> survey results which we would like to preserve in order to avoid the charge
> that we made it  up.
>
> Thanks for your possible understanding of the problem, and for helping us to
> correct it.
>

 

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Evan_Perkins@gallup.com>
> To: <fathersmanifesto@yahoo.com>; <jenn@crosswinds.net>
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 3:07 AM
> Subject: Re: /~manifesto/aapollgallup.htm warning
>
>
> > Jenn:
> >
> > I have no objection to this request as long as the Gallup content is
> > removed.
> >
> > Thank you for your cooperation.
> >
> > Evan Perkins

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "John Knight" <fathersmanifesto@yahoo.com>

Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 9:54 AM

Subject: Fw: /~manifesto/aapollgallup.htm warning

>
> Dear Jenn,
>
> It has been almost a week  since this message was received from Gallup.
> Evan Perkins reiterated in private email that he has no objections to
> restoring the web site.  He is inquiring about how to best present some of
> the other pages which will HELP Gallup get the word out.  However we set
> this up will be something that Gallup will appreciate.
>
> We need to know asap when you will restore the site so we can plan
> accordingly.  This was really a bad time to have this service interrupted.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Knight" <fathersmanifesto@yahoo.com>
> To: <jenn@crosswinds.net>
> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 2:30 PM
> Subject: Re: /~manifesto/aapollgallup.htm warning
>
>
> > Dear Jenn,
> >
> > Please advise the status of this account.  We need it to be back up asap.
> >
> > thx
> >
> >

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