Hanna Jaeckel

From: Hanna Jaeckel <hannajaeckel@msn.com>

Sent: Sat, December 12, 2009 1:43:41 PM
Subject: Re: Only idiots hide from the truth.

You people should all be locked up - you are a danger to yourselves and everybody else!

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: Only idiots hide from the truth.

Rofl.
Well, I've seen you say several times that you're really dangerous to mess with.
So, just between us--
I think she must of meant you.
:-)


-----Original Message-----
From: gary beauregard <beau@gcbussu.com>

Sent: Mon, Dec 14, 2009 3:12 pm
Subject: Re: Only idiots hide from the truth.

You mean us?


From: Hanna Jaeckel <hannajaeckel@msn.com>

Sent: Sat, December 12, 2009 1:43:41 PM
Subject: Re: Only idiots hide from the truth.

You people should all be locked up - you are a danger to yourselves and everybody else!
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: Only idiots hide from the truth.

<<<I imagine that God would say about "mamzer niggers" what beautiful children.  And love them as all of the rest of his creation.>>>
 
Well of course those who read the Holy Bible already know what God DID say, not what "God *would* say".  The following two verses do not apply to niggers, or mamzer niggers, as the mamzers described in Scripture were mostly products of Israelites marrying Hittites, Canaanites, Girgashites, and other Adamites who are NOT niggers:
 
 
A mamzer shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD, Deuteronomy 23:2
An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the LORD forever: Deuteronomy 23:3
If God "loved" Ammonites, Moabites, and mamzers, why would He COMMAND us to have nothing to do with them?
 
What about Edomites, descendants of Esau?  Do you really *think* God loves them too?  No he does not:
 
Was not Esau Jacob's brother? says the LORD: yet I loved Jacob, but hated Esau; I made his mountains a waste, his heritage a desert for jackals, Malachai 1:3
As it is written: "I loved Jacob but hated Esau," Romans 9:13 
 
While Esau did pick the wrong racial stock for wives, Canaanites, Ishmaelites, and Hittites, not even that fornicator would have THOUGHT of marrying niggers.
 
But under God's Law, there ARE no mamzer niggers, because the instant a white woman has sex with one of these beasts, BOTH are put to death:
 
 
And if a woman approach unto any behemah, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the behemah: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them, Leviticus 20:16
 
Is that "love"?  Yes it is.  It is HIS love for HIS holy seed.
 
John Knight
 
 
 
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Judy Hayner <edpals2@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
I imagine that God would say about "mamzer niggers" what beautiful children.
 
And love them as all of the rest of his creation.
 
My the light of God bring love into your heart, so you may heal.
 

From: Jacob Israel <blackexilenow@gmail.com
Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 2:20:08 PM
Subject: Re: Only idiots hide from the truth.
 
Some easily beguiled ADMITTED whore now whines:
 
 
 
<<<While, I cannot respect your viewpoint on the worthiness of most of God's children, I do try to speak respectfully to you.>>>
 
 
You MUST be joking.  It was YOU who kicked off this entire thread by agreeing with the following racist screed from canola-nutbar:
 
 
"John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm ... [ad infinitum]"
 
With "respect" like yours, we don't need enemas.
 
You and yours are completely and totally without redeeming social value.  You'll never have the right to force yourself on God's holy people, no matter how much you whine and bitch about it.  As heirs to His EVERLASTING covenant, we DO have a duty and a right and a responsibility to separate from the mixed multitude:
 
 
Nehemiah 9:2 And the seed of Israel separated themselves from all foreigners, and stood and confessed their sins, and the iniquities of their fathers.
Nehemiah 9:3 And they stood up in their place, and read in the book of the law of Jehovah their God a fourth part of the day; and another fourth part they confessed, and worshipped Jehovah their God.
Nehemiah 13:3 Now it came to pass, when they had heard the Torah, that they separated from Israel all the mixed multitude.
 
John Knight
 
 
 
 
ps--this mixed multitude was mostly WHITE Egyptians, not niggers, so you can only imagine what God would have to say about mamzer niggers.
 
 
 
 
 
 
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Judy Hayner <edpals2@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
The fact that I've said nothing of my personal life says nothing about me, except that i refuse to play your game.  
 
I have no need to prove myself to YOU.  GOD judging, and YOU judging are two very different things.  
 
I do not perceive God as the harsh judge you do.  I perceive God as a loving presence, urging me on to become the best, the kindest, the most compassionate person I can be.  And when I fail, I know that I can return to that presence, and again be filled with love and support to continue to try ... 
 
You have only to ask, and God's love will fill your heart.  You need only let go of your fear and your hatred, and His love will rush in to fill the void.  
 
While, I cannot respect your viewpoint on the worthiness of most of God's children, I do try to speak respectfully to you.
 
This Christmas, may the spirit of Jesus fill you with true understanding of the love that could heal your heart, and make you a blessing to others.
 

From: Jacob Israel <blackexilenow@gmail.com>
Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 5:53:09 AM
Subject: Re: Only idiots hide from the truth.
 
 
<<<I've known a lot of Christians, but none who seemed so very curious about stranger's sex lives!  That's not a game I'm going to play with you.  >>>
 
Don't flatter yourself.
 
Nobody gives a dodd dam about your or any other nigger's or nigger lover's sex life--the simple point is that you claimed that it's an insult to call a whore a whore, and when given the chance to prove you're not, you instead proved you are.
Your out-of-context statement "Judge not, lest yet be judged!  It IS so hard to keep that in mind, isn't it?  It challenges us all" indicates that none of these many "Christians" you claim to know understood enough about  Scripture to realize that to be judged by God is an HONOR for His holy people, not a punishment.  We are commanded to judge sinners which is why we now have laws which 800 million niggers in 86 African nations consider to be a violation of their civil rights, including laws against adultery and murder:
 
 
And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed. 2 Thessalonians 3:14
But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person, 1 Corinthians 5:13
"Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbor", Leviticus 19:15
"Ye shall not respect persons in judgment; but ye shall hear the small as well as the great; ye shall not be afraid of the face of man; for the judgment is God's: and the cause that is too hard for you, bring it unto me, and I will hear it", Deuteronomy 1:17
"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness?" 2 Corinthians 6:14
"Now we command you, brethren, on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us", 2 Thessalonians 3:6
 
It's way past time to knock the dust off our heels and let the pigs wallow in their own mire.  The Holy Bible is not for you.
 
John Knight
 
 
 
 
ps--and to answer the other question you never answered, no, you do not and never will have the right to impose niggers on me and mine that's greater than our right to free association with whom we please.
  
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Judy Hayner <edpals2@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
  LOL!
 
I've known a lot of Christians, but none who seemed so very curious about stranger's sex lives! 
 
That's not a game I'm going to play with you.  
 
Judge not, lest yet be judged!  It IS so hard to keep that in mind, isn't it?  It challenges us all.
 
I wish you the blessing of a peaceful heart this Christmas.
 
May the LIGHT of GOD shine through your heart, making you a BLESSING to others!
 
And, geez, calm down woudya?  You get yourself so worked up over nothing.  I can't imagine you on the highway...
 

From: Jacob Israel <blackexilenow@gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, December 10, 2009 6:20:15 PM
Subject: Re: Only idiots hide from the truth.
 
 
<<<These people are really strange, and very rude.  Apparently he feels God had a definition of whore ...
but you know, current usage is what matters.>>>
 
 
No, jewdy, it is NOT "current usage" that matters, it's GOD'S LAW and how HE uses language to convey it, that matters--at least to the 271 MILLION of us Americans who CLAIM to be Christians.
 
Every single whore on this forum has a different definition of "whore".  But SCRIPTURE tells us that a whore is a woman who has sex outside of marriage, which is the DEATH penalty:
 
Deuteronomy 22:21 Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.
 
Are you a whore?
 
Is THAT why you want to change the definition?  Is it a SIN for God to call whores "whores"?
 
Is it a sin for US to call whores "whores"?
 
Is it less of a sin for Claunolabar to whine "you are a complete waste of human protoplasm" than it is for us to call a whore a whore, in your "mind"?
 
John Knight
 
  
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Judy Hayner <edpals2@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
These people are really strange, and very rude.  Apparently he feels God had a definition of whore ...
but you know, current usage is what matters.
 
It is rude, and an insult.  Clearly he has no respect for mothers.  I wonder if he has any respect for his OWN mom?
 
If I was his mom ... well if I was his mom, he wouldn't be like this.  My son is very respectful of women, as I taught him.
And I believe it comes from his heart.
 

From: Viva Veridad <vivaveridad@yahoo.ca>
Sent: Tue, December 8, 2009 3:31:20 PM
Subject: Re: Only idiots hide from the truth.
 
 
This man - John Knight - refers to Mary, the mother of Jesus Christ as a "whore."  He constantly blasphemes.
 
Now even if one is an atheist and doesn't believe in Jesus Christ, or that he or his mother even ever existed, isn't it still pretty low for a man to refer to a woman in that way?  Particularly one who was anything but what he depicts her as.
 
Of course, that's what he calls me, and other decent women who have passed this way and had the misfortune to encounter that!   
 

From: Jacob Israel <jk@israeliteidentity.com>
Sent: Tue, December 8, 2009 3:17:55 PM
Subject: Only idiots hide from the truth.
 
 
<<<I have read you calling women on this list whores.
I realize that this is popular among the young,  and young women now accept this sort of treatment from men all the time, but I DON'T. 
 I EXPECT RESPECT.
That kind of action will not win you any respect. It will garner you a return in kind.>>>
 
Sure, you "EXPECT RESPECT".
 
No, actually, you DEMAND respect.
 
And if you think God accepts such DEMANDS, you're in the wrong pew.
 
All of us on this forum know from the WORD OF GOD that God KNOWS there are whores.
 
Are you a whore?
 
Are you sure?
 
Do you even know what a whore is?
 
The LEAST you can do is EARN our respect by looking it up and telling us what God says a whore is.
 
John Knight
 
 
 
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:40 AM

Subject: Re: Only idiots hide from the truth.
 
Our PC society has caused many professions to cover their ass from several different directions. In Hansan's case, people noticed that he was a potential danger but slipped him into the pockets of other organizations, rather than take definitive action themselves. In my mind, they should not get a free pass. They were as derelict, in their duty, as anyone handing a loaded and cocked pistol to somebody else and walking away.
 
Bear
 
--- On Sun, 12/6/09, Judy Hayner <edpals2@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
From: Judy Hayner <edpals2@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Only idiots hide from the truth.
Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 11:48 PM
 
 
I'm not sure if this is in reaction to my extremely long-winded response to John Knight, but 
I agree that that guy Hassan should have been noticed before he got to that point.  It seemed he gave plenty of warning signs.
 
 
 
 
 

From: gary beauregard <beau@gcbussu.com>
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 4:33:34 PM
Subject: Only idiots hide from the truth.
Let's face it, we are going to have
realize what is happening and stop it.
 
--- On Sun, 12/6/09, Judy Hayner <edpals2@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Judy Hayner <edpals2@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 2:49 PM
 
Unfortunately, our species is capable of of terrible things, it is true.  It is impossible for me to understand how anyone could act with such cruelty toward one's fellow man, but  it happens, often without seeming provocation.  It happens in military conflicts as well.
It is obviously entirely innacurate to limit every heinous act to only those with a particular skin color.
Nazis were white.  UBER-White!   They perpetrated some of the most horrifying violence the earth has ever seen. How about the Inquisition?
 
And, there has been equally horrific violence and cruelty in every corner of the globe, on the part of ALL races, creeds, and colors.   
I don't think you can make any kind of assumption, about why a person becomes a criminal or becomes violent.
I wonder if we ALL are not capable of terrible acts, but that some of us have other values, other resources, other voices of conscience 
that prevent us from acting upon our anger and pain and fear. What kinds of situations allow those constraints to fall, allow us to come from
our worst urges instead of our best?
In the early 70s there was an experiment run by a professor at Stanford, the Stanford Prison Experiment.  He divided his
white male students into two groups, prisoners and guards, and set them up in rooms somewhere in the school to simulate
a real prison.  He had to bail on the experiment in  less than a week because the "guards" had become too violent toward
the "prisoners" ... who were simply their classmates.
"the results of the experiment are said to support situational attribution of behaviour rather than dispositional attribution. In other words, it seemed the situation caused the participants' behaviour, rather than anything inherent in their individual personalities. In this way, it is compatible with the results of the also-famous Milgram experiment, in which ordinary people fulfilled orders to administer what appeared to be damaging electric shocks to a confederate of the experimenter."
I DON'T SEE THE point in focusing exclusively on the negative, or in focusing my energy on hatred and blame.
I work at treating everyone with respect, and those around me in MY LIFE treat others with respect as well.  I've explained that perhaps I've led a lucky and blessed life, but I know almost exclusively GOOD PEOPLE, OF ALL COLORS and RELIGIONS.  So, I KNOW THIS IS POSSIBLE!
I am sorry your life has not been  as wonderful in this respect as mine has.   
It is interesting, but I generally receive respect in return from everyone I meet.  I work with children. I work with the public and encounter literally hundreds of people from all over the world every WEEK.
 I would say 95 percent of the time, when I help a child with something, they thank me, even when their parent is not there to remind them.  I like kids, and I think it shows.  I give them respect,  treat them as reasonable thinking human beings.  
When people act with disrespect toward another, the EASY response is to give it back, and I admit I have done this, more in attitude than in name-calling. 
If you are the poster I think you are, you call people names all the time.
I have read you calling women on this list whores.
I realize that this is popular among the young,  and young women now accept this sort of treatment from men all the time, but I DON'T. 
 I EXPECT RESPECT.
That kind of action will not win you any respect. It will garner you a return in kind.
I am choosing, consciously and with an amount of control that is not easy, to treat you at this moment with the respect I give everyone else.    
I live in  a very racially diverse area of the world.  I have black friends and co-workers.  I have muslim friends and coworkers
and I have Jewish friends and coworkers.
I know with ALL MY HEART that hatred is not our  original state.  That love shines through.
 There is no hatred in any baby.  None.  I believe we come in, ALL OF US, carrying the LIGHT OF GOD.  I've seen it in babies' eyes.  
And if you believe God has created the world, then you KNOW God created all races.  
Jesus told us in Matthew 18: "Be careful. Don't think these little children are worth nothing. I tell you that these children have angels in heaven. And those angels are always with my Father in heaven. "
or in a diffferent translation (NIV)  10"See that you do not look down on one of these little ones. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven.[a
Or in the King James Version: 10Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.
and also
At that time the followers came to Jesus and asked, "Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?" Jesus called a little child to come to him. Jesus stood the child before the followers. Then Jesus said, "I tell you the truth. You must change and become like little children {in your hearts}. If you don't do this, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. The greatest (most important) person in the kingdom of heaven is the person that makes himself humble like this child. "If a person accepts a little child like this in my name, then that person accepts me"
As you, also, came came into this world carrying the light of God, I'm praying for your soul, that you return to that LIGHT.


From: Jacob Israel <jk@kensingtonmicro.com>
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 11:37:47 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
<<<Perhaps it was how I was raised, perhaps my life's experiences.  Maybe I've just been lucky to have known so many good people, of all kinds of races and mixes of races and religions.   I would like to think the race thing is getting better.>>>
In what way can it POSSIBLY be true that "the race thing is getting better"!!??
Inquiring minds would REALLY like to know.
Do you ENJOY having the world's HIGHEST murder rate, bar none, up more than FIFTY FOLD since niggers became citizens?
Or having the world's highest incarceration rate, also the world's HIGHEST, also up FIFTY FOLD?
Or the world's undisputed highest divorce rate, illegitimacy rate, abortion rate, ad infinitum?
AND still getting WORSE, as you sit around and compliment each other on "the race thing is getting better"
If you LIKE the idea of niggers moving to once-beautiful WHITE built Detroit and changing it from the Motor Capitol of the World to the Murder Capitol of the World OVERNIGHT,then stay on your racist track.
Or nigger-infested New Orleans and our nation's own capitol Washington and lil' ole' Gary, Indiana, having an even HIGHER murder rate than Detroit several years in a row, making them all Murder Capitol of the WORLD.
Do you need to get murdered by a nigger to figure this out?  Is that all that will finally get your attention?  Do you REALLY think that WE should pay utterly NO attention to the genocide of the White Race?:
http://israeliteidentity.com/homicide.htm
John Knight

From: "Judy Hayner" <edpals2@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 9:21 AM
To: "gary beauregard" <beau@gcbussu.com>, "Jimmy Jumshade" <jimmybug@rocketmail.com>, "Claudette Konola" <Konola@Bresnan.net>, phayes9402@comcast.net, "Tom" <boldsaber@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Thanks, Bear.  I'm trying not to be so upset.   I have been quite surprised, perhaps shocked, to find this sort of thing in my e-mail.
Perhaps it was how I was raised, perhaps my life's experiences.  Maybe I've just been lucky to have known so many good people, of all kinds of races and mixes of races and religions.   I would like to think the race thing is getting better.
It is perhaps because I work with the public in a very diverse part of the world that I think this.

From: gary beauregard <beau@gcbussu.com>
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 10:43:48 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Don't be too upset with the white separatists. They have their counterparts in other races and religions. The ones that make me uncomfortable are those that hate or descriminate but put up the handshake and smile to mask their true nature.
Bear
--- On Sun, 12/6/09, Judy Hayner <edpals2@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Judy Hayner <edpals2@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 11:37 AM
"Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be." 
Bear
From what some of the posters on this e-mail string are writing,  it does seem you are correct, Bear.
I had been aware that people like that existed, but I rarely meet anyone like that.  
I certainly have not talked to anyone before who espouses a white separatist viewpoint like some on this list do. 
 
One of the reasons we chose to live where we live was because of the racial diversity.
And the area I live in has only become much more racially and ethnically diverse.  
In addition to my son's first friend who was black, one of my daughter's pre-school pals was Muslim with a white dad
and a mom from Singapore (she was really interesting).   Currently, each of my kids have a varied group of friends, 
with daughter being close to a girl with Pakistani heritage, and my son with a boy whose family comes from India, and is
Hindu.    
In my job, I see children and people from all over the world.
Everyone I work with treats them all with respect.  If anyone is hating any of these children, they are certainly keeping it to themselves.
Also, Tom, what are you saying that Neitsche, Marx, Hegel and Engel believed? The Golden Rule? Or that we as a species will never follow the golden rule?  
Many cultures have a version of the golden rule. I had a poster once, it was decades old and it had all the
different versions printed on it.  I put it on the refrigerator when my kids were little.  Now there is an organization that
has done the same thing.  It is just such a basic way of thinking that helps prevent problems from 
And somehow,  a crucial part of this discussion has been omitted, the part where JimmyJumshade spoke of racism as a natural defense mechanism created by nature, or something like that.  It was his coment that I replied to.
Several passages in the New Testament quote Jesus of Nazareth espousing the golden rule, including the following:
12Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
25And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 26He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? 27And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. 28And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
The passage in the book of Luke then continues with Jesus answering the question, "Who is my neighbor?", by telling the parable of the Good Samaritan, indicating that "your neighbour" means a total stranger, or someone that happens to be nearby. Jesus' teaching, however, goes beyond the negative formulation of not doing what one would not like done to themselves, to the positive formulation of actively doing good to another that, if the situations were reversed, one would desire that the other would do for them. This formulation, as indicated in the parable of the Good Samaritan, emphasises the needs for positive action that brings benefit to another, not simply restraining oneself from negative activities that hurt another. Taken as a rule of judgement, both formulations of the golden rule, the negative and positive, are equally applicable.[25]

From: gary beauregard <beau@gcbussu.com> Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 9:56:54 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be.
Bear
--- On Sun, 12/6/09, Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 10:19 AM
Actually Nietsche, Hegel, Marx, and Engel believed that.
 
Tom
 
ARMY STRONG!!  This We'll Defend.
 
From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:44 PM Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
 
So, you are saying that as a species we can never treat each other as we would like to be treated, with understanding, love
and respect? 
 
I don't think this is what you mean, but it is coming off that way.
 
Why accept things as they are?  Actually, new ideas are rarely accepted quickly.  Of course the idea of racial equality
has been around for quite some time but it is clear not everyone has gotten the memo!  
 
You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature?  Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten.  They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together.  My son
is white and the first friend was black.  My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy.  He simply
enjoyed his company. 
 

From: Jimmy Jumshade <jimmybug@rocketmail.com>
To: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>; phayes9402@comcast.net; Judy Hayner <edpals2@yahoo.com> Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 11:09:36 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 8:43 AM
Claudette, Patty seems to have focused an unimportant aspect of your note, which made an excellent point about
the fear behind the rationalization of racism.
 
And while I'm sure she didn't intend this, her comment enabled Predator then to put down the French ... 
 
Another on this list has decried blocking the racist component on this list as censorship and against
freedom of speech.  
 
If I have learned one thing by being on this list, it is that arguing with people only polarizes their positions.  It does not change anyone's mind.  
 
I suspect those who deny the majority of people on earth their humanity will only be cheered if they upset us.   
 
I do not feel it is my duty to provide them with a forum for their fear and hatreds.  
 
I agree with you there is no point in attempting discussion with them, and I take them off the list every time I send an 
e-mail.
 
If the rest of you wish to argue with them and give their positions credibility, that is your right.  
 

From: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>
Sent:
Sat, December 5, 2009 9:25:02 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Patty, what did I ever do to you to make you hate me so much? You seem to have this need to challenge everything I write. This one is just silly.
 
Claudette is a French name.  http://www.behindthename.com/name/claudette
 
CLAUDETTE
Gender: Feminine
Usage: French
Pronounced: klo-DET  [key]
French feminine form of CLAUDIUS
 
Konola is a very common Finnish Name. In fact if you google "Konola" you will find that most of the information that comes up is about a Finnish racing team, a well known Finnish artist, and an Nokia executive-in Finland.
 
 
 
From: phayes9402@comcast.net [mailto:phayes9402@comcast.net]
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
 
I'm curious as to how someone could tell that Claudette Konola is of French and Finnish descent. Maybe I'm just missing something but it doesn't appear that obvious to me.
 
Patty
----- Original Message -----
From: "Claudette Konola" <Konola@Bresnan.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2009 9:21:57 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you, and your E-mails are going into my junk mail box where they are automatically deleted so long as you continue to send them. You are trying to look rational, but to me you are scared shitless that you may have to share power with people of color. By the way, you should be able to see from my name that my ethnic background is French and Finnish. I am a white woman who hopes there are no other white women willing to breed with the likes of you.
 
From: John Hansen [mailto:majorhart@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
 
So - you have great hostility toward White People - right?
 
Nobody else ever does bad - it's just white people
 
You probably applaude when black power raises it's ugly fist as they did in washington state lately and killed some police officers - and when laraza trys to take over America and even they murder black people in the LA area (have you heard?)
 
Did you hear about the blacks that broke into a wichita home and after forcing the white women to do all kinds of things for them and to each other - almost all of the white people there were killed.   Of course that's okay too - right?
 
I used to know  a guy named grant bruer - he said and correctly that blacks are a very basic people and are wired for the congo. He said they couldn't change that if htey wanted to and I believe he was right.   Living in a refined decent society is beyond them.
 
John Hansen
 
---- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
 
Lordy.
Third world citizens have no value, they can't buy our goods. . .
The rest of the sentence doesn't say much, but that part says a big mouthful. Talk about a prejudice-- there's one in spades. And don't try to pin it on Predator as "his" prejudice-- he didn't make that up. All he did is give voice to one of our economic/cultural assumptions.
You could say our attitude has improved a little bit in recent years, though. Now we think they have at least a little bit of value-- as cheap labor..
Regards,
Al J 
-----Original Message-----
From: PredatorBC@aol.com
Sent: Fri, Dec 4, 2009 10:13 am
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
In a message dated 12/4/2009 8:35:56 AM Central Standard Time, vivaveridad@yahoo.ca writes:
Why is one American child more valuable than 450 -750 third world children?
Third world citizens have no value, they can't buy our goods, they are on the global dole, and what have they ever contributed to any society?