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Rabbi Yaakov HaKohen Kleiman,a lecturer at Aish HaTorah, Jerusalem:

"In addition to questions of medical interest, there are many interesting possibilities concerning the origin of Ashkenazi populations and how they migrated in Europe. It seems likely that Jews began to arrive in Europe perhaps 1,000 to 1,200 years ago, when settlement was already sufficiently developed to provide them with opportunities to make a living."

To a jew, it's fait accompli that jews are not self sufficient enough to create their own societies and thus need "settlements" which were already "developed" by productive peoples like Israelites [read: Christians], and Muslims, into which to sink their fangs.  But to the peoples who created these "settlements", it's truly an amazing revelation that jews recognize their own intellectual limitations in such a candid fashion.

He also made the following racist comments which a goy or gentile cannot make without dog's chosen people climbing all over them:

"The results also indicate a low level of admixture (intermarriage, conversion, rape, etc.) into the gene pool of these various Jewish communities."

"Among the Jewish communities sampled, North Africans (Moroccans, etc.) were most closely related to Babylonian (Iraqi) Jews. These populations may best represent the paternal gene pool of the ancient Jewish/Hebrew population dating back to the First Temple period, before the Babylonian exile (approx. 2,500 years ago)."

"All of these communities maintained their Jewish customs and religious observance despite prolonged periods of persecution. Jews remained generally culturally isolated from their host communities. These genetic studies are a testimony to Jewish family faithfulness."

First, we must thank the rabbi for confirming that jews consider themselves to be a race, even though most of the rest of the world seems to view jews as such a mixture of mamzers that the word race doesn't even apply to them.   But more importantly, we must thank the rabbi for confirming the suspicions that most people have of jews: they're part nigger.

"Despite their long-term residence in different countries and isolation from one another, most Jewish populations were not significantly different from one another at the genetic level. The results support the hypothesis that the paternal gene pools of Jewish communities from Europe, North Africa and the Middle East descended from a common Middle Eastern ancestral population, and suggest that most Jewish communities have remained relatively isolated from neighboring non-Jewish communities during and after the Diaspora."
(M.F. Hammer, Proc. Nat'l Academy of Science, May 9, 2000)

"While these studies support the idea that two random Jews may have more genetic relatedness than a Jew and a non-Jew, it has little meaning beyond that. Genetic relatedness is useful for tracing genetic origins such as where did a particular allele begin. However, it does not mean much more than that. it does not confirm anything Jewish, unless to be Jewish is to have descended from a Jew, and that only begs the question of, who was the first Jew?"

 

The Holy Bible explains it all.  It shows that "the first jew" was a descendant of Ham who married a nigger in Cush, which is now Ethiopia.  The fact that jews still have to ask the question proves that jews really don't believe what rabbis tell them about jews being descendants of the Israelites.   By Israelite law, an Israelite who married any of the descendants of either Ham or the Cushites was a jew, not an Israelite.

 

 

http://www.aish.com/societywork/sciencenature/Jewish_Genes.asp

There is now new and exciting DNA evidence for common Jewish origin -- not just among Cohanim, the Priestly Class, but among Jews scattered all over the globe.


Recently published research in the field of molecular genetics -- the study of DNA sequences -- indicates that Jewish populations of the various Diaspora communities have retained their genetic identity throughout the exile. Despite large geographic distances between the communities and the passage of thousands of years, far removed Jewish communities share a similar genetic profile. This research confirms the common ancestry and common geographical origin of world Jewry.

Jewish men from communities which developed in the Near East -- Iran, Iraq, Kurdistan, Yemen -- and European Jews have very similar, almost identical genetic profiles.

"Despite their long-term residence in different countries and isolation from one another, most Jewish populations were not significantly different from one another at the genetic level. The results support the hypothesis that the paternal gene pools of Jewish communities from Europe, North Africa and the Middle East descended from a common Middle Eastern ancestral population, and suggest that most Jewish communities have remained relatively isolated from neighboring non-Jewish communities during and after the Diaspora."
(M.F. Hammer, Proc. Nat'l Academy of Science, May 9, 2000)

The basis of this new field of population research is the study of the Y-chromosome, which is passed virtually unchanged from father to son. The rare mutations -- which are changes in the non-coding portion of its DNA -- can serve as markers, which can distinguish peoples. By studying the genetic signatures of various groups, comparisons can be made to determine the genetic relationships between the groups.

Y-chromosome research of the Jewish people began as an outgrowth of the study of Cohanim -- the Jewish priestly family. These studies showed a very high genetic affinity among present-day Cohanim, indicating that they do have a common paternal ancestor, estimated to have lived some 3,000 years ago. (See The Cohanim/DNA Connection)

MOST RECENT RESEARCH

The most recent genetic research consists of obtaining DNA samples, and doing laboratory analysis and comparison of the DNA markers on the Y-chromosome -- which is passed from father to son, and on the mtDNA (mitrocondrial DNA) -- which is passed intact from mother to son and daughter. This genetic anthropology promises to be particularly informative for tracking the history of Jewish populations, and helping to resolve the debate on the origins and migrations of Jewish communities in the Diaspora.

The researchers proposed to answer the question whether the scattered groups of modern Jews can be identified as the descendants of the ancient Hebrews of the Bible, or whether their common ancestry has been diluted through influx of converts and through intermarriage so that little remains of their "Jewish genes."

The complex recorded history of dispersal from the Land of Israel and subsequent residence in and movements between various countries in Europe, North Africa and the Middle East is expected to produce a complex pattern of genetic relationships among Jewish populations as well as between them and the non-Jewish peoples among whom they lived.

The research was based on samples from 29 populations, 7 Jewish, categorized into five major divisions: Jews, Middle-Eastern non-Jews, Europeans, North Africans, and sub-Saharan Africans.

The findings were that most Jewish communities do indeed seem to be genetically similar.

The findings were that most Jewish communities -- long separated from one another in Europe, North Africa, the Near East and the Arabian Peninsula -- do indeed seem to be genetically similar and closely related to one another, sharing a common geographical origin.

These Jewish communities are more closely related to each other and to other Middle Eastern Semitic populations -- Palestinians, Syrians, and Druze -- than to their neighboring non-Jewish populations in the Diaspora.

The results also indicate a low level of admixture (intermarriage, conversion, rape, etc.) into the gene pool of these various Jewish communities.

Among the Jewish communities sampled, North Africans (Moroccans, etc.) were most closely related to Babylonian (Iraqi) Jews. These populations may best represent the paternal gene pool of the ancient Jewish/Hebrew population dating back to the First Temple period, before the Babylonian exile (approx. 2,500 years ago).

The Y-chromosome signatures of the Yemenite Jews are also similar to those of other Jewish and Semitic populations. In contrast, the paternal gene pool of Ethiopian Jews more closely resembles that of non-Jewish Ethiopian men.

ASHKENAZI LINKS

Although the Ashkenazi (European) Jewish community separated from their Mediterranean ancestors some 1,200 years ago and lived among Central and Eastern European gentiles, their paternal gene pool still resembles that of other Jewish and Semitic groups originating in the Middle East.

A low rate of intermarriage between Diaspora Jews and local gentiles was the key reason for this continuity. Since the Jews first settled in Europe more than 50 generations ago, the intermarriage rate was estimated to be only about 0.5% in each generation.

The findings oppose the suggestion that Ashkenazim are descended from the Kuzars.

The Ashkenazi paternal gene pool does not appear to be similar to that of present-day Turkish speakers. This finding opposes the suggestion that Ashkenazim are descended from the Kuzars, a Turkish-Asian empire that converted to Judaism en masse in or about the 8th century CE.

The researchers are continuing and expanding their studies particularly of the Ashkenazi community. They are hoping that by examining the DNA markers in Jewish populations from different parts of Europe, they will be able to infer the major historical and demographic patterns in Ashkenazi populations.

MIGRATION CLUES

In addition to questions of medical interest, there are many interesting possibilities concerning the origin of Ashkenazi populations and how they migrated in Europe. It seems likely that Jews began to arrive in Europe perhaps 1,000 to 1,200 years ago, when settlement was already sufficiently developed to provide them with opportunities to make a living.

One theory claims that the Jews of Eastern Europe derive predominantly from Jewish migrants from the Rhineland or from Italy, being fairly direct descendants of the original ancient Jewish/Hebrew populations.

A second theory suggests a northerly migration from the Balkans or from Central Asia, with the possibility of large-scale conversions of Slavs and/or Kuzars to Judaism.

This argument parallels the controversy over the origin and development of Yiddish -- the language of Eastern European Jews. One theory proposes that Jews, migrating from the Rhineland and neighboring regions spoke an old form of German which provided the basis of Yiddish.

Other scholars reject the German origin of Yiddish. These linguists see Yiddish grammar as fundamentally Slavonic, with modern Yiddish developed by incorporating large numbers of German and Hebrew words into the context of a basically Slavic grammar and syntax.

There has not been enough historical evidence to decide between such theories. Now, with the newly developed genetic methods, it is possible to test these ideas, for example to see if there was a significant Slavic contribution to modern Ashkenazic Jewry.

CONTINUING RESEARCH

The researchers plan to continue their research by investigating genetic variation in populations that can trace their Jewish ancestry to localized communities of Europe, in order to better understand the history and development of Ashkenazic Jewry.

The genetic research findings support Jewish tradition -- both written and oral.

These genetic research findings support Jewish tradition -- both written and oral.

After over 1,000 years of history in the Land of Israel, Jews dispersed to many and distant locations throughout the world. Some Jewish exile communities were relatively stable for two millennia -- such as in Babylonia (Iraq) and Persia (Iran). Others developed centuries later, following successive migrations to North Africa and Europe.

All of these communities maintained their Jewish customs and religious observance despite prolonged periods of persecution. Jews remained generally culturally isolated from their host communities. These genetic studies are a testimony to Jewish family faithfulness.

Only the Jewish people in the history of mankind has retained its genetic identity for over 100 generations, while being spread throughout the world -- truly unique and inspiring.

Perhaps, even more unique and inspiring, is that this most unlikely scenario was a prophecy and a promise.

And God shall scatter you among all the peoples from one end of the earth to the other end of the earth... (Deuteronomy 28:64)

And God shall return your captivity and be merciful to you, and will return and gather you from all the nations whither God has scattered you. (Deuteronomy 30:3)

As the natural laws are set before Me, so shall the seed of Israel never cease from being a nation before Me, forever. (Jeremiah 31:36)


Rabbi Yaakov HaKohen Kleiman is a lecturer at Aish HaTorah, Jerusalem, specializing in Temple studies. He is co-director with Rabbi Nachman Kahana, of the Center For Kohanim.

See more articles by Rabbi Yaakov Kleiman

 


Visitor Comments: 10

Anonymous, 3/28/2002
A word of caution
While these studies support the idea that two random Jews may have more genetic relatedness than a Jew and a non-Jew, it has little meaning beyond that. Genetic relatedness is useful for tracing genetic origins such as where did a particular allele begin. However, it does not mean much more than that. it does not confirm anything Jewish, unless to be Jewish is to have descended from a Jew, and that only begs the question of, who was the first Jew?

Often, Jews and non-Jews alike think of Judaism as a genetic fact. Evidence like this may even superficially add support to such an idea, but one need only ask the obvious question to dispel that idea: how do genes make a cultural or religious identity? The answer is, they don't. A geneotype is not a phenotype. Judaism is in cultural, religion, and ultimately, one's self-identity. It is not in genes.

Anonymous, 2/20/2002
Bias Focus
It appears that the objective of such a study is to further promote division and separatism among the Jews. Enough of this currently exist as it relates to the Jews of African descent. The only African Jews that appear to be readily accepted are those of Ethiopian descent. What about the West African Jews? Very little attention or focus are placed on them and the struggles of their descendants.

Anonymous, 10/27/2001
Conversions and Jewish DNA
Since a convert becomes a Jew, and since, after Abraham, for several years almost every "new" Jew was a convert, do you have a hypothesis about whether the converts' genetic profile both changed and merged into the theretofore Jewish DNA? Could there be more than one 'stream' of Jewish DNA?

Anonymous, 8/12/2001
Ashkinazi's always assumed to have intermarried?
Why is it that people always make the assumption, as the Kuzari commenter did, that the Ashkinazi Jews are the ones who have intermarried? Why not make the very same assumption of the Sephardim? Is it not highly likely that both populations have some of the blood of some converts in them and that to some extent both groups have changed somewhat? To me, this seems a likely possibility.

If you have ever looked at the non-Jewish population in Syria or Lebanon, they are not nearly as darkly pigmented as the non-Jewish population of Yemin. Some have assumed the Europen Jews have lightened significantly, but we look very much, with individual exceptions, like other Mediteranian peoples. I believe there was little intermarriage, little conversion in (for obvious reasons, it was not permitted by the Church), and little rape there. I also know that darker skin pigmentation is dominant, so it would not take many converts (and we know historically there were communities in Arabia who had converts and who fled to Yemin during Mohammed's life), to darken the skin pigmentation of the Yemini Jews.

While both populations changed somewhat, we both retained our Jewish DNA, indicating that our changes were not as significant as some want to believe. We are, after all, one big family.

Anonymous, 1/17/2001
A word of caution
A word of caution about getting too caught up in racial purity and a genetic basis for identifying and discriminating between people-- We must remember how Hitler and the Natzis perverted this type of thinking to discount human life. It is an interesting topic as far as learning about history but, in the scheme of things, preserving a little strand of non-coded DNA isn't such a big deal. Far more important is that we treat all people with respect and appretiation and that we live an honorable life.

Judd Serotta, 1/11/2001
We look different
If Jews of Sephardic and Ashkenazic descent appear to come from very similar gene pools, why do we look so different? To the non-scientist (like me), it would appear that the Ashkenaz Jews married local light-skinned people, and the Sephards married local dark-skinned people (unless they were originally dark-skinned, in which case they could have been separated). But what accounts for the difference in appearance between Ashkenazic Jews and Sephardic Jews?

Jennifer Schjolberg, 12/10/2000
African Jews
I am doing research on Jews living in Africa. I thought the topic was rather obscure, and it would be difficult to find enough information to do a thorough paper, but thanks to this article I now have a scientific portion that can be incorporated into my study.

Kevin Brook, 9/18/2000
Dr. Hammer's study is not the final word
The genetics study cited above is interesting but incomplete. For instance, I am not aware of any study that attempts to compare the genes of
Khazar skeletons or modern North Caucasian Turks (especially Kumuks and
Karachays) with European Jews, which essentially leaves the Khazar question untested. Also, the study only tests some portions of Jewish genes. The Khazars are certainly not to be ruled out entirely. A statistical analysis of the study has been conducted by Daniel Friedman at http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/friedman.html, who concludes that there are both Israelite and non-Israelite elements in European Jews. Also, there are other genetics studies you can read about at http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/abstracts.html
It is rather obvious that converts and intermarriages represent some of the ancestry of Ashkenazi Jews. Dismissing the Jewish Khazars from our history entirely is unwise, considering that new evidence for their Judaism has come to light. I look forward to additional genetics studies like this one that can help trace our roots to its various origins.

Anonymous, 8/26/2000
"in thee and in thy seed shall of the families of the earth be blessed." Gen 28:14
Fascinating research with many ramifications! Not least of these is its contribution to the verification of the credibility of Jewish historical traditions / lineages(as found in the Bible, Haggadah, Talmud etc). Further, the research enhances the significance of the fact that while Jews have contributed enormously to the cultural and economic well-being of countless nations (despite continued mistrust and persecution)they have still maintained their genetic, cultural and religious distinctiveness. Jews are indeed a marvel and a wonder to the Nations - evidence of God's hand at work if ever such evidence was needed.

malka dennis, 7/15/2000
who's most jewish
The research is interesting and an inspirational testament to the faithfulness of the Jewish people to their laws and traditions. It makes me wonder what could I learn about my family history from my genes? I hope genetic information will not become a vehicle for some of us to say, "I am more Jewish (or a better Jew) than you because I have a Hebrew pedigree."


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