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Jews Respond to Thomas Jeffereson

 

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/what_they_said.html  

CLAIM
Thomas Jefferson

(18th century American statesman)
"Dispersed as the Jews are, they still form one nation, foreign to the land they live in. "
Thomas Jefferson (D. Boorstin, THE AMERICANS)

RESPONSE (1)
Firstly, anti-Semites should learn to quote their "sources" correctly and also include the relevant page number. The correct citation for the book is "The Americans – The Colonial Experience", Daniel. J. Boorstin, Vintage Books, 1958. The "quote" above has been changed from the original, which appears on page 64 of the paperback edition. Speaking about the American Quakers and the problems they experienced because, for example, they would not defend themselves against Indian attacks, he speaks of them as "a religious sect…acting with one mind, and that directed from the mother Society in England. Dispersed, as the Jews, they still form, as those do, one nation, foreign to the land they live in."

I don't see this as anti-Semitic or even anti-Quaker. Jefferson is simply commenting on the character of both the Quakers and the Jews of not totally assimilating with the surrounding society and maintaining their traditions. Whatever is wrong with this in a free society? Wasn't the freedom to practice one's religious beliefs one of the founding principles of the United States?

Yes, this is precisely the point.  Christians wrote "free exercise of religion" to establish free exercise of religion for Christians to practice Christianity, but modern jews want to impose their amoral, despicable, destructive "principles" on Christians.  What Christians view as pro-Christian you jews view as nothing but "anti-semitic".  Your suggestion that our Forefathers were "anti-semitic" is reason alone for exiling you.

The imputation behind the original misquote is also at variance with Jefferson's support for both freedom of religious belief and practice and also his belief in freedom from religion. He was determined that the religious bigotry and intolerance in the Europe of his time would not be exported to America. In 1777 he drafted "An Act for Establishing Religious Freedom" and in 1779 when he became Governor of Virginia he introduced the Act into the legislature. An opposing bill, proposing to make Christianity the official religion of America was then introduced by Patrick Henry and had primarily Anglican support.

Jews along with Baptists, freethinkers and some Anglicans supported the Jefferson bill. James Madison made a speech to the Virginia General Assembly which strongly swayed support to the Jefferson bill and it became law on 16 Jan 1786. It read, in part:

"II. Be it enacted by the General Assembly, That no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested or burdened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief; but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinion in matters of religion, and that the same shall in no wise diminish, enlarge, or affect their civil capacities.'

David S. Maddison (maddison@connexus.net.au)

 

Which of course ignores that the Virginia Constitution, thanks to Thomas Jefferson, contains to this day the direct reference to Christianity   http://legis.state.va.us/vaonline/li1a.htm

That religion or the duty which we owe to our Creator, and the manner of discharging it, can be directed only by reason and conviction, not by force or violence; and, therefore, all men are equally entitled to the free exercise of religion, according to the dictates of conscience; and that it is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian forbearance, love, and charity towards each other.

 

RESPONSE (2)
Someone recently asked about Jefferson and the Jews. Of all the Founders, Jefferson is the only major figure in whose writings something anti-Semitic cannot be found. Jefferson disagreed with the inward directedness of the Jewish people in the Old Testament, and he believed that Jesus (a Jew) improved upon Judaic thought by taking ethical concerns into the human conscience. To Dr. Jacob De La Motta, Savannah, Georgia, Jefferson wrote that he rejoiced "in the restoration of the Jews, particularly to their social rights." Jefferson hoped that the Jews "will be seen taking their seats on the benches of science as preparatory to their doing the same at the board of government."

 

If someone were to write the following about jews today, they would be labled as "anti-semitic":

II. Jews. 1. Their system was Deism; that is, the belief of one only God. But their ideas of him & of his attributes were degrading & injurious.2. Their Ethics were not only imperfect, but often irreconcilable with the sound dictates of reason & morality, as they respect intercourse with those around us; & repulsive & anti-social, as respecting other nations. They needed reformation, therefore, in an eminent degree.

III. Jesus. In this state of things among the Jews Jesus appeared. His parentage was obscure; his condition poor; his education null; his natural endowments great; his life correct and innocent: he was meek, benevolent, patient, firm, disinterested, & of the sublimest eloquence.

"What a wretched depravity of sentiment and manners must have prevailed before such corrupt maxims could have obtained credit! It is impossible to collect from these writings a consistent series of moral Doctrine.' Enfield, B. 4. chap. 3. It was the reformation of this `wretched depravity' of morals which Jesus undertook.

Should we  now dig up Thomas Jefferson and try him as an "anti-semite"? 

If jews of today admit that our other Forefathers were more  "anti-semitic" than Thomas Jefferson, then why do they spend so much time claiming that Benjamin Franklin or George Washington didn't write what is attributed to them?


To Mordecai M. Noah Jefferson wrote, in 1818, "You sect by its sufferings has furnished a remarkable proof of the universal spirit of religious intolerance inherent in every sect, disclaimed by all when feeble, and practiced by all when in power."
From http://www.th-jefferson.org/html/archives_of_follow-up_notes.html

 

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