"Christian Identity is SO heinous, so inherently evil, so incredibly addled in its
What you should be concerned about is adhering to a long-ago discredited racist and
Date: Apr 20 2006 - 10:53am
Subject: Re: [identity] LOL "serpents"
That being the definition of 'heinous'. We'll skip 'evil', 'addled', and 'bogus' for the sake of brevity.
Are you aware that you have insulted, reviled, and demonized one of the most respected and beloved
Talmudic scholars, and authors, of all time? Rashi (Rabbi Solomon ben Isaac, 1040-1105), is so revered
and adored by the Jews that they call him "The Great Rashi"--look him up.
"The first exile of the children of Israel who
were exiled from the Ten Tribes to the land
of Canaanites unto Zarephath...The exegetes
say that Zarephath means the Kingdom
called 'France' in common language.."
Another Talmudist, Don Isaac Abarbanel (in two different places: on the Book of
Kings and on Obadiah) emphasised his opinion that the term "Zarephath"
includes the Isle of Britain as well as France.
"Britain and France"! But what did Rashi know about France? Quite a lot actually,
he was born in France and spent most of his life there!
Accord to the site: http://www.aish.com/literacy/jewishhistory/Reverence_for_Rashi.asp
HIS LIFE, AND THE ROOTS OF ANCIENT FRENCH
Born in France, Rashi lived most of his life in Troyes, in the province of Champagne,
except for a few
There are no physical remnants to remind us of that glorious era in history.
Rashi, whose commentaries are interspersed with descriptions of lifestyles
Even more significant is Rashi's contribution to the study of the ancient French
"Rashi is the only source available to French scholars who are trying to
decipher ancient French
There is yet a third reason why Rashi is so appreciated, according to a theory
presented by Rabbi Yoseph
"The French view Rashi as one of the most influential personalities of his
time," concludes Rabbi Shmuel
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I shall now provide you with some information about the Talmud which you will find
You mean THAT's in the Talmud !?
There is a Talmudic scholar named Yair Davidiy who is quite highly thought of
in British-Israel circles. This Jewish worthy (actually a self admitted mamzer
-- the product of a Welsh father and French Jewess, thus a true halacha Jew)
has founded an organization located in the state of Israel called "BRIT-AM",
it's web site can be perused at:
Brit-Am's self-described goal is:
"BRIT-AM - working to re-unite the southern (Judah), and the northern (Ephraim),
kingdoms of Israel."
Of course Yair's idea of 're-union' is for us all to convert to Orthodox Rabbinical
Judaism! If you are not already acquainted with Davidiy please don't use me as
a reference! Yair is not kindly disposed to Identity. Upon my broaching the subject
of the Ashkenazi Khazars he very ungraciously called me an 'anti-Semitic Edomite'!
Now I, being naturally so meek and unassuming, got off rather lightly. A friend
of mine who had also a minor disagreement with Mr. Davidiy was invited by him
to visit Yair in 'Israel' so that Davidiy could place a bullet between his eyes!
Never the less Davidiy has written several books which I heartily recommend
(though not necessarily endorse) to all Identity types. These books contain a
wealth of information -- albeit occasionally marked by tortuous convoluted
argument attempting to equate the Khazars with the Scytho-Scots and the tribe
of Manasseh, or the Germans with Edom.
Yair Davidiy and Brit-Am have produced the following book titles:
'The Tribes', 'Lost Israelite Identity', 'Joseph', and 'Ephraim;'
as well as the journal BRIT-AM featuring articles by Davidiy
and his colleagues.
I shall present some excerpts form Davidiy's book "Ephraim", as I conveniently
have it in electronic format. Davidiy states he seeks to prove the modern identity
of the Lost Ten Tribes through "ARCHAEOLOGICAL AND HISTORICAL PROOFS ,
BIBLICAL EVIDENCE", and, as he says in Chapter Four, "TALMUDICAL PROOFS".
He first stipulates this entirely unreassuringly caveat:
"The Lost Ten Tribes of Israelin their places of exile are legally "Gentiles"
(according to theTalmud, Yebamot 17) for all intents and purposes as far
as keeping the Mosaic Law is considered. (Not to mention the dreaded
Davidiy continues in "Ephraim":
Rabbinical Sources spoke of the Lost Ten Tribes being exiled to the River
Sambation, to beneath the Clouds of Darkness, and to Daphne of Antiochea.
The concepts and areas that these place-names represent lead to Western
Europe and North America. The Zohar is an early Jewish Mystical work
The Zohar says that Israel is represented by a red and white rose. The
description of this rose resembles the Tudor Rose of England. The Zohar
describes the return of the Lost Ten Tribes and their future re-unification
with Judah. Jewish traditions concerning the Lost Ten Tribes should be
supplemented by Celtic and Northern ones.
The foremost Rabbinical Commentator was "Rashi". He understood
the Prophet Obadiah as saying that the Lost Ten Tribes were in France.
The word used for France is "Zarephath". Other commentators took
Zarephath" to encompass Britain, France, and the north. The Biblical
Book of Obadiah according to Jewish Sources describes a coming show-
down between Edom (Germany and Rome) on one side and between the
Lost Ten Tribes of Israel on the other. The Ten Tribes are led by Ephraim.
The name Ephraim can also refer to the Lost Tribes in general. In a
specific sense Ephraim is represented by Britain and peoples of British
It will be shown how the Jewish Biblical commentator RASHI (on The
Book of Obadiah) believed that the Lost Ten Tribes of Israel migrated into
Zarephath which he identified with the land of France while Don Isaac
Abarbanel equated "Zarephath" with both France and England together.
It is implied that Nachmanides (in "The Book of Redemption") considered
the term "Zarephath" to encompass all of the Northwest European region. (29)
"Zarephath" is mentioned in the Book of Obadiah (1;20) in connection with
the exile of the children of Israel:
According to a composite explanation based on Rabbinical Commentators
the above verse may actually be understood to say:
"This first exile
[of the Lost Ten Tribes] who
The Hebrew word ("Chail") translated in the KJ as "host" can also mean"first"
and most Jewish Commentators seem to have understood the verse to refer
to the first exile which was that of the Lost Ten Tribes. They also tended to
understand the place-name "Zarephath" (in this case) as referring to France
and its area or to France and England together and thus either expressly or
by implication to link the Lost Ten Tribes with these western regions.
Classical Jewish Traditional Commentators interpreted the Hebrew passage
of the first part of the above excerpt as saying:
The words of the traditional Jewish Rabbinical Commentators on this verse
will now be quoted with a bare minimum of explanation. Suffice it to say
that their opinions are based on substance and confirmed from other sources:
Rashi (Rabbi Solomon ben Isaac, 1040-1105, Champagne, France):
"The first exile of the
children of Israel who
i.e. Rashi says that the Lost Ten Tribes are in France! Iben Ezra, Abraham
" `..from the Canaanites': We have heard
from great men that the
land of Allemagne
This means according to Rabbinical Commentators (such as Eben Ezra, Radak,
Rashi, Abarbanel) areas extending from the borders of Germany and including
France. Don Isaac Abarbanel (in two different places: on the Book of Kings and
on Obadiah) emphasised his opinion that the term "Zarephath" includes the
Isle of Britain as well as France.
The above Commentators did not necessarily in every case comprehend the
significance of their own interpretations. They simply interpreted the Biblical
verses according to what they perceived as the straight-forward meaning in
the light of their own knowledge. It is not (at present) fully certain whether
they themselves actually consciously realised that the LOST TEN TRIBES were
amongst the Gentiles in the above areas. - Nevertheless, these Commentaries
taken at face value most easily do lend themselves to a "Lost Ten Tribes In
Western Europe" interpretation.
The Interpreters quoted above are considered in some degree to have been
inspired and therefore were capable of insights whose import they were not
necessarily fully aware of.
Abarbanel, Don Isaac (1437-1509). A descendant of David. Born in Lisbon,
he became treasurer to the king of Portugal but was forced to flee to Spain
which he left when the Jews were expelled in 1492. He entered the service
of the king of Naples, Italy, then moved to Corfu, then Apulia, and later to
Venice. Everywhere he went he served as an advisor to the heads of state.
He wrote a copious Commentary on most books of the Bible. He seems to
have read every book (christian and Jewish) ever written on the Bible and
related matters that were extant in his day. He gives the impression in his
works of having been pro-English, which was unusual for a man of his
The Talmud (Megilla 6) infers that Edom went to Germany and Roman Italy.
The Talmud (Baba Batra 123;b) also says that only the descendants of Joseph
are capable of conclusively defeating Edom and that the Prophecy of Obadiah
refers to such an event. Historical evidence shows the Israelite Tribes of
Joseph (Ephraim and Menasseh) to have ultimately converged in the British
Isles and North America. The above explanation of Joseph versus Edom as
depicted in the Book of Obadiah actually describes the result of future conflict
between JOSEPH (PRIMARILY Britain and the U.S.A) and the Lost Ten Tribes
in Zarephath (France and the north) on one side against the forces of Edom
(Romanised Europe) led by Germany on the other!
Not only does Scripture and its connected tradition identify modern nations
with their ancestral counterparts, the Bible also indicates the final outcome
of ancestral struggles that were begun long ago. If the claims made in this
work are true (and the evidence does point in that direction) then they will
be able to stand up to examination. The implications are important enough
to warrant confirmation!
6. Kedar in Hebrew means darkness.The verse in the Song of Solomon (1;5)
associating blackness with the tents of Kedar is a play on words: "I am black,
but comely,.. as the tents of Kedar..." The Vikings called North America
"Markland" which is said to mean "Land of the Dark"8. The Lost Ten Tribes
were exiled (according to Talmudic tradition) to a place where "Clouds"
covered them or to the "Mountains of Darkness". These terms were applicable
to Mannae, the Caucasus, Crimea, Scandinavia, and other areas of Cimmerian
settlement. In a Conceptual-Figurative sense (as demonstrated below in this
work) the terms were ultimately applicable to North America. ppTalmudic
Traditions supported by Biblical passages located the Lost Ten Tribes in such
places as Daphneh of Antiochea, beyond the Sambation River, and Under the
Clouds or in the Mountains of Darkness. These names will be shown to have
been those pertinent to several geographical locations and to indicate the
paths of Lost Israelite Migration to the British Isles and the west! These
ovements led to the Israelite Tribes of Joseph coming to dominate Britain
which in turn has significance for the understanding of Biblical Prophecy.
"BEHOLD THESE SHALL COME
Regarding the above verse the following points are of interest: One Midrashic
source (Tanchuma, Genesis, VaYatzay b:, cf. Lev.Rabah 29;2) implies that those
exiled "afar" or in a "faraway land" means those who were exiled to Gaul
(Gallia) and its neighbours. The Israelites will return -"from the north and
from the west", i.e. areas to the northwest of the land of Israel. pp They will
also return "from the land of Sinim", meaning (says Rashi and the Aramaic
transliteration of Yehonathan "From the Land of the south", and according to
the Latin Vulgate translation "From Australia" (or "Australis"): "Australia" in
Latin means "the land of the south". "Land of Sinim" implies `Land of the
Sini-people' since the suffix "-im" in Hebrew is the signification of plurality.
The SINI (1-Chronicles 1;15) were descendants of Canaan, son of Ham, and
probably gave their name to the Sinai Peninsula 2. This is interesting since
the Sinai Peninsula is not all desert as often sup-posed and in Biblical times
supported a relatively large population from the Israelite Tribe of Simeon.
The Sinai Peninsula was included in the Promised Land of Israel and in
some respects is Geographically similar to Australia!
End of quotes.