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Doug spewed:

"Christian Identity is SO heinous, so inherently evil, so incredibly addled in its bogus
"theology" and "history" that it wouldn't even rise to the level of the "mystery" of ancient
Babylon.  That should be your focus rather than something you don't take the time and/or
don't have the intellectual capacity to understand - Jews or "Jewry" - organized or otherwise. 

 

What you should be concerned about is adhering to a long-ago discredited racist and demonic
ideology parading as a religion.  There is no substantiated genetic, historical or archeological
(sic,there you go again, tsk tsk! Try "archaeological")
evidence linking northern Europeans to
ancient Israel.  Your movement is SO marginalized, so impotent that you're reduced moronic
'questions for the class.'"


From: Doug Holland < dholland 422@yahoo.com>
To: identity@yahoogroups.com
Reply-To: identity@yahoogroups.com
Date: Apr 20 2006 - 10:53am
Subject: Re: [identity] LOL "serpents"

 

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Well Dougie, you've made your position perfectly clear. You hate Identity Truth with every mote
and fiber of your entire (satanic) being. You state that belief in Identity Truth--that the Exiled
Northern Ten Tribes of the House of Israel migrated to Northern Europe-- is "heinous" and
"inherently evil".

Therefore ANYONE who ever espoused such a doctrine is:


Hateful; hatefully bad; flagrant; odious; atrocious; giving great great offense; -- applied to deeds
or to character.


That being the definition of 'heinous'. We'll skip 'evil', 'addled', and 'bogus' for the sake of brevity.

Are you aware that you have insulted, reviled, and demonized one of the most respected and beloved
Talmudic scholars, and authors, of all time?  Rashi (Rabbi Solomon ben Isaac, 1040-1105), is so revered
and adored by the Jews that they call him "The Great Rashi"--look him up.

Rashi stated:


        "The first exile of the children of Israel who
        were exiled from the Ten Tribes to the land
        of Canaanites unto Zarephath...The exegetes
        say that Zarephath means  the Kingdom
        called 'France' in common language.."


Another Talmudist,
Don Isaac Abarbanel (in two different places: on the Book of
Kings and on Obadiah) emphasised his opinion that the term "Zarephath"
includes the Isle of Britain as well as France.

"Britain and France"! But what did Rashi know about France? Quite a lot actually,
he was born in France and spent most of his life there!

Accord to the site: http://www.aish.com/literacy/jewishhistory/Reverence_for_Rashi.asp



See More



Reverence for Rashi

by David Damen, Belgium


Celebrating the 900th anniversary of the passing of Rashi.

 


HIS LIFE, AND THE ROOTS OF ANCIENT FRENCH

Born in France, Rashi lived most of his life in Troyes, in the province of Champagne, except for a few
years learning in Worms, Germany. His sons-in-law, grandsons, and many students lived in small
villages throughout the province or not far outside it, such as Orlean, Dijon, and Romereau, home of his
grandson, Rabbeinu Tam. Just as Babylon was the center of Torah learning during the period of the
Talmudic sages, so the Champagne district in France was the great world center of Torah study
in its time
. In this region of France, famous for its choice wine grapes, the seeds for the most widely
accepted commentaries of the Tanach and Talmud were planted.

The only person who recorded customs from that time, whose records have survived, was Rashi.

There are no physical remnants to remind us of that glorious era in history.
All of the
signs and traces of that time have been obliterated by the Crusades,
wars, revolutions, and political upheavals that characterized the last 900 years of
French history. The French have no documentation from that period, describing
life in their country or the customs of their people. The only person who
recorded customs from that time, whose records have survived, was Rash
i.

Rashi, whose commentaries are interspersed with descriptions of lifestyles
and common French practices and occurrences during his lifetime, is one of
the most reliable and researched resources for French historians. Strange as
it may seem, the writings of this lone Jewish scholar are the basis for all studies of ancient French
customs and culture, especially in the Champagne district.

Even more significant is Rashi's contribution to the study of the ancient French language. The
3,000 translations and explanations of terms that he recorded shed light on the ancient dialect and grammar
of ancient France, which few scholars are able to understand today. Modern French language is very
different from the French that was spoken in Rashi's time. The collection of words that Rashi has recorded,
known to us as loazei Rashi, is a veritable gold mine for linguistics scholars studying the transformations
which the French language underwent.

"Rashi is the only source available to French scholars who are trying to decipher ancient French
writings,"
says Rabbi Avraham Meir Glantzer, a renowned expert on loazei Rashi. "The fact that Rashi
translated and transliterated those words into Hebrew helps researchers not only to understand the literal
meaning of terms, but the exact way they were pronounced. That is what the French researchers find so
enchanting about his work. "Rashi," continues Glantzer, "is automatically included in almost every dictionary
of Ancient French."

There is yet a third reason why Rashi is so appreciated, according to a theory presented by Rabbi Yoseph
Pevzner: "The French value Rashi as one of the greatest commentators of the Jewish nation, and admire
him for the great impression he has made on the scholarly world. He is recognized as an upright and moral
personality of the highest degree, and as having been a rare and remarkable scholar in his time. They
recognize that Rashi possessed a wealth of general knowledge, apparent everywhere throughout
his writings."

"The French view Rashi as one of the most influential personalities of his time," concludes Rabbi Shmuel
Sirat, former chief rabbi of France and founder of the Rashi Center, Mercaz Rashi.

[End Quote --Emphasis added]

How about that! The only surviving contemporary authoritative source, the Great Rashi,
believed that the French constituted part of Lost Ten Tribes of the House of Israel !


I shall now provide you with some information about the Talmud which you will find
rather disconcerting.

 

 

 

        You mean THAT's in the Talmud !?

 

 

 

There is a Talmudic scholar named Yair Davidiy who is quite highly thought of

 

in British-Israel circles.  This Jewish worthy (actually a self admitted mamzer

 

-- the product of a Welsh father and French Jewess, thus a true halacha Jew) 

 

has founded an organization located in the state of Israel called "BRIT-AM",

 

it's web site can be perused at:   

 

 

 

 

 

 

Brit-Am's self-described goal is:

 

 

 

"BRIT-AM - working to re-unite the southern (Judah), and the northern (Ephraim), 

 

kingdoms of Israel." 

 

 

 

Of course Yair's idea of 're-union' is for us all to convert to Orthodox Rabbinical 

 

Judaism! If you are not already acquainted with Davidiy please don't use me as

 

a reference! Yair is not kindly disposed to Identity. Upon my broaching the subject

 

of the Ashkenazi Khazars he very ungraciously called me an 'anti-Semitic Edomite'!

 

Now I, being naturally so meek and unassuming, got off rather lightly.  A friend

 

of mine who had also a minor disagreement with Mr. Davidiy was invited by him

 

to visit Yair in 'Israel' so that Davidiy could place a bullet between his eyes! 

 

 

 

Never the less Davidiy has written several books which I heartily recommend

 

(though not necessarily endorse) to all Identity types. These books contain a

 

wealth of information -- albeit occasionally marked by tortuous convoluted

 

argument attempting to equate the Khazars with the Scytho-Scots and the tribe

 

of Manasseh, or the Germans with Edom.

 

 

 

Yair Davidiy and Brit-Am have produced the following book titles:

 

 

 

        'The Tribes', 'Lost Israelite Identity', 'Joseph', and 'Ephraim;'

 

        as well as the journal BRIT-AM featuring articles by Davidiy

 

        and his colleagues.

 

 

 

I shall present some excerpts form Davidiy's book "Ephraim", as I conveniently

 

have it in electronic format.  Davidiy states he seeks to prove the modern identity

 

of the Lost Ten Tribes through "ARCHAEOLOGICAL AND HISTORICAL PROOFS ,

 

BIBLICAL EVIDENCE", and, as he says in Chapter Four, "TALMUDICAL PROOFS".

 

 

 

He first stipulates this entirely unreassuringly caveat:

 

 

 

"The Lost Ten Tribes of Israel  in their places of exile are legally "Gentiles"

(according to the Talmud, Yebamot 17) for all intents and purposes as far

as keeping the Mosaic Law is considered. (Not to mention the dreaded so-called
'Noahide Laws'.-

 

 

Rabbinical Sources spoke of the Lost Ten Tribes being exiled to the River

Sambation, to beneath the Clouds of Darkness, and to Daphne of Antiochea.  

The concepts and areas that these place-names represent lead to Western

Europe and North America.  The Zohar is an early Jewish Mystical work

The Zohar says that Israel is represented by a red and white rose.   The

description of this rose resembles the Tudor Rose of England.  The Zohar

describes the return of the Lost Ten Tribes and their future re-unification

with Judah.  Jewish traditions concerning the Lost Ten Tribes should be

supplemented by Celtic and Northern ones.             

 

The foremost Rabbinical Commentator was "Rashi".  He understood

the Prophet Obadiah as saying that the Lost Ten Tribes were in France.    

The word used for France is "Zarephath".  Other commentators took

“Zarephath" to encompass Britain, France, and the north.   The Biblical

Book of Obadiah according to Jewish Sources describes a coming show-

down between Edom (Germany and Rome) on one side and between the

Lost Ten Tribes of Israel on the other.  The Ten Tribes are led by Ephraim.  

The name “Ephraim” can also refer to the Lost Tribes in general.  In a

specific sense Ephraim is represented by Britain and peoples of British

descent! 

 

 It will be shown how the Jewish Biblical commentator RASHI (on The

Book of Obadiah) believed that the Lost Ten Tribes of Israel migrated into

Zarephath which he identified with the land of France while Don Isaac

Abarbanel equated "Zarephath" with both France and England together.  

It is implied  that Nachmanides (in "The Book of Redemption") considered

the term "Zarephath" to encompass all of the Northwest European region. (29)

 

"Zarephath" is mentioned in the Book of Obadiah (1;20) in connection with

the exile of the children of Israel:
 
         "The  captivity of this host of the children of
        Israel shall possess that of the Canaanites
        unto Zarepath.."

 

According to a composite explanation based on Rabbinical Commentators

the above verse may actually be understood to say:

 

            "This first exile [of the Lost Ten Tribes] who
            reach from the Land of Canaanites [i.e.
            Germany] to Zeraphath [France and Britain].."

 

The Hebrew word ("Chail") translated in the KJ as "host" can also mean"first"

and most Jewish Commentators seem to have understood the verse to refer

to the first exile which was that of the Lost Ten Tribes.  They also tended to

understand the place-name "Zarephath" (in this case) as referring to France

and its area or to France and England together and thus either expressly or 

by implication to link the Lost Ten Tribes with these western regions.

 

Classical Jewish Traditional Commentators interpreted the Hebrew passage

of the first part of the above excerpt as saying:
 
         "And this first exile of the children of Israel
        who are (positioned) from the Canaanites   to
        Zarephath..."*o

 

The words of the traditional Jewish Rabbinical Commentators on this verse

will now be quoted with a bare minimum of explanation.  Suffice it to say

that their opinions are based on substance and confirmed from other sources: 

 

Rashi (Rabbi Solomon ben Isaac, 1040-1105, Champagne, France):

 

        "The first exile of the children of Israel who
        were exiled from the Ten Tribes to the land
        of Canaanites unto Zarephath...The exegetes
        say that Zarephath means  the Kingdom
        called 'France' in common language.."

 

i.e. Rashi says that the Lost Ten Tribes are in France! Iben Ezra, Abraham

(1092-1167, Spain):        

 

        " `..from the Canaanites': We have heard 

         from great men that the land of Allemagne
        [i.e.Germany] are the Canaanites who fled
        from before the children of Israel  when they
        came into the land. So too, Zeraphath means
        France...",

 

This means according to Rabbinical Commentators (such as Eben Ezra, Radak,                         

Rashi, Abarbanel) areas  extending from the borders of Germany and including

France.  Don Isaac Abarbanel (in two different places: on the Book of Kings and

on Obadiah) emphasised his opinion that the term "Zarephath" includes the

Isle of Britain as well as France.  

 

The above Commentators did not necessarily in every case comprehend the

significance of their own interpretations.  They simply interpreted  the Biblical

verses according to what they perceived as the  straight-forward meaning in

the light of their own knowledge.  It is not (at present) fully certain whether

they themselves actually consciously realised that the LOST TEN TRIBES were

amongst the Gentiles in the above areas. - Nevertheless, these Commentaries

taken at face value most easily do lend themselves to a "Lost Ten Tribes In

Western Europe" interpretation. 

 

The Interpreters quoted above are considered in some degree to have been

inspired and therefore were capable of insights whose import they were not

necessarily fully aware of. 

 

 Abarbanel, Don Isaac (1437-1509).  A descendant of David.  Born in Lisbon,

he became treasurer to the king of Portugal but was forced to flee to Spain

which he left when the Jews were expelled in 1492.  He entered the service

of the king of Naples, Italy, then moved to Corfu, then Apulia, and later to

Venice.  Everywhere he went he served as an advisor to the heads of state. 

He wrote a copious Commentary on most books of the Bible.  He seems to

have read every book (christian and Jewish) ever written on the Bible and

related matters that were extant in his day. He gives the impression in his

works of having been pro-English, which was unusual for a man of his

background.

 

The Talmud (Megilla 6) infers that Edom went to Germany and Roman Italy.  

The Talmud (Baba Batra 123;b) also says that only the descendants of Joseph

are capable of conclusively defeating Edom and that the Prophecy of Obadiah

refers to such an event.  Historical evidence shows the Israelite Tribes of

Joseph (Ephraim and Menasseh) to have ultimately converged in the British

Isles and North America.  The above explanation of Joseph versus Edom as

depicted in the Book of Obadiah actually describes the result of future conflict

between JOSEPH (PRIMARILY Britain and the U.S.A) and the Lost Ten Tribes

in Zarephath (France and the north) on one side against the forces of Edom

(Romanised Europe) led by Germany on the other!             

 

Not only does Scripture and its connected tradition identify modern nations

with their ancestral counterparts, the Bible also indicates the final outcome

of ancestral struggles that were begun long ago.  If the claims made in this

work are true (and the evidence does point in that direction) then they will

be able to stand up to examination.  The implications are important enough

to warrant confirmation! 

 

6. Kedar in Hebrew means darkness.  The verse in the Song of Solomon (1;5)

associating blackness with the tents of Kedar is a play on words: "I am black,

but comely,.. as the tents of Kedar..." The Vikings called North America

"Markland" which is said to mean "Land of the Dark"8.   The Lost Ten Tribes

were  exiled (according to Talmudic tradition) to a place where "Clouds"

covered them or to the "Mountains of Darkness".  These terms were applicable

to Mannae, the Caucasus, Crimea, Scandinavia, and other areas of Cimmerian

settlement.  In a Conceptual-Figurative sense (as demonstrated below in this

work) the terms were ultimately applicable to North America. pp Talmudic

Traditions supported by Biblical passages located the Lost Ten Tribes in such

places as Daphneh of Antiochea, beyond the Sambation River, and Under the

Clouds or in the Mountains of Darkness.  These names will be shown to have

been those pertinent to several geographical locations and to indicate the

paths of Lost Israelite Migration to the British Isles and the west!   These

ovements led to the Israelite Tribes of Joseph coming to dominate Britain

which in turn has significance for the understanding of Biblical Prophecy.

 

    "BEHOLD THESE SHALL COME
    FROM FAR: AND, LO, THESE FROM
    THE NORTH  AND FROM THE WEST;
    AND THESE FROM THE LAND OF
    SINIM" (Isaiah 49;12).

 

Regarding the above verse the following points are of interest: One Midrashic

source (Tanchuma, Genesis, VaYatzay b:, cf. Lev.Rabah 29;2) implies that those

exiled "afar" or in a "faraway land" means those who were exiled to Gaul

(Gallia) and its neighbours.  The Israelites will return -"from the north and

from the west", i.e. areas to the northwest of the land of Israel. pp They will

also return "from the land of Sinim", meaning (says Rashi and the Aramaic

transliteration of Yehonathan "From the Land of the south", and according to

the Latin Vulgate translation "From Australia" (or "Australis"): "Australia" in

Latin means "the land of the south".   "Land of Sinim" implies `Land of the

Sini-people' since the suffix "-im" in Hebrew is the signification of plurality. 

The SINI (1-Chronicles 1;15) were descendants of Canaan, son of Ham, and

probably gave their name to the Sinai Peninsula 2. This is interesting since

the Sinai Peninsula is not all desert as often sup-posed and in Biblical times

supported a relatively large population from the Israelite Tribe of Simeon. 

The Sinai Peninsula was included in the Promised Land of Israel and in

some respects is Geographically similar to Australia!

 

End of quotes.

Ouch! That must have hurt! Not to mention shocking and humiliating. You could petition
the newly re-constituted Sanhedrin to demote Rashi from "the Great" to "the Heinous"!
What do you  think might be the chances of that flying? Eh?

In closing Dougie I would like to say this has been an enjoyable evisceration, but it
seems to have more of the flavor of an autopsy. But have no fear, if needs be in the
future we shall exhume your moldering carcass to present those archAeological, historical,
linguistic, genetic, etc,. proofs you claim to be non-existent, And much of it from Jewish
sources. 

Cheers,

-hengist

Davidiy continues in "Ephraim": 

 

TRAITOR McCain

jewn McCain

ASSASSIN of JFK, Patton, many other Whites

killed 264 MILLION Christians in WWII

killed 64 million Christians in Russia

holocaust denier extraordinaire--denying the Armenian holocaust

millions dead in the Middle East

tens of millions of dead Christians

LOST $1.2 TRILLION in Pentagon
spearheaded torture & sodomy of all non-jews
millions dead in Iraq

42 dead, mass murderer Goldman LOVED by jews

serial killer of 13 Christians

the REAL terrorists--not a single one is an Arab

serial killers are all jews

framed Christians for anti-semitism, got caught
left 350 firemen behind to die in WTC

legally insane debarred lawyer CENSORED free speech

mother of all fnazis, certified mentally ill

10,000 Whites DEAD from one jew LIE

moser HATED by jews: he followed the law

f.ck Jesus--from a "news" person!!

1000 fold the child of perdition

 

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