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The ONLY evidence we have of Obama's IQ is that it's VERY close to that of his Kenyan father (the apple doesn't fall that far from the tree) who was from a country with A SUPPOSED IQ of 72. But as you YOURSELF can prove with a simple internet search, the IQ of a country isn't nearly as revealing about its productivity as per capita income. Other evidence indicates that Kenya's IQ is MUCH lower than that.

We also don't know for certain exactly what the standard deviation for IQ scores in Keyna is, but we know from other IQ and standardized tests that it's at most about half of the 15 standard deviation such tests are designed for (or 7.5 IQ points), and perhaps a third (or 5 IQ points). Assuming the most conservative estimate of 7.5, in order for Obama to have an IQ of 122 as he claimed during his campaign, he would have to have an IQ 50 points higher or 6.7 standard deviations higher than the mean for Kenya. The odds of him having an IQ only 45 points or six standard deviations or  higher are one in a BILLION, and the odds of scoring 53 points or 7 standard deviations higher are one in a TRILLION.

 

http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?p=100481551

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Obama's drug abuse obviously took its toll, look at his lack of career accomplishments in the 20 years after he graduated. Once he joined the corrupt Chicago thug political racket he excelled though.

yeah I agree, no accomplishments.. State senator, senator, president..what a loser!
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Hmm... Let me take a look at my map of the electoral college from the last few presidential elections...


Make sure you look at the counties.
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I guess that depends on your............ how did you say it????



You'd think someone with an IQ of 174 wouldn't have a wiggly red line under the word "ideology"......


Oh you want to stoop to typos??

Ever heard of arthritis?
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Interesting fact.

It takes roughly 3 IQ points to create threads like these in WP.
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My IQ is 175. It must really suck to know that mine is higher than yours.

My IQ is 198. I didn't even have to type this post, I literally thought it into existence.
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Oh you want to stoop to typos??

Ever heard of arthritis?

You only need one question mark to end a sentence.
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cornhusker pretty much your entire post was a TOS violation that will probably get you banned.
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He was a constitutional law professor and a state legislator. Hell, he was a US Senator within 15 years of graduating.

Thanks to David Axelrod's sex scandals against his opponents.
You should learn more about the Chicago machine - I bet you think Mayor Daley was a genius too.

P.S. He wasn't a 'professor' according to the Univ of Chicago.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Quote:

 

[T]hese are the facts concerning Obama's LSAT score while attending Law School at Harvard University. We do not know his actual LSAT score; however, after much research, we found that the average LSAT score for all Harvard students is 171. The percentile rank for an LSAT score of 171 at Harvard is 98.8 %.

MENSA will accept LSAT scores as a means of qualifying for MENSA membership. (MENSA also accepts up to 200 various IQ tests and other tests of cognitive function as well.) The LSAT score required for MENSA membership is equal to a percentile of 95% or higher. Thus, basing Obama's estimated LSAT score of 171 ranks him in the top 98.8% (percent/percentile) range which is clearly above the lowest acceptable LSAT percentage rank of 95%, which clearly affirms that Obama has a qualifying intelligence quotient that would allow him acceptance into MENSA.

Since MENSA accepts various IQ Tests as well as other cognitive tests to qualify for MENSA membership it is safe to estimate that Obama's IQ Score could range anywhere from a low IQ score of 130 based on the Stanford Binet IQ Test, Revision 5, to a high IQ score of 148 based on the Cattell IQ Test.

What the IQ guy failed to account for is the fact that Harvard University practices affirmative action. PBS Frontline reports: "The gap in SAT scores persists even at the highest levels of achievement. A study of the 1989 applicants to five highly-selective universities found that white candidates' average combined SAT score was 186 points higher than the corresponding SAT average for African American applicants."

Furthermore, the New York Times reports that "At the best schools, by contrast, efforts to diversify the student body translate into a 400-point bonus for minority students on the SAT tests."

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That 98.8 ranking based on the average Harvard LSAT translates to about a 135 IQ and a combined SAT score of 1290. That's pretty good, if not spectacular. However, due to affirmative action, one must reduce that score by at least 186 points. (Also, I suspect the NYT article is talking about the new SAT, which isn't valid for the purposes of this comparison.) Thus, giving Obama the benefit of the doubt drops his score to 1104, which is approximately equivalent to an IQ of 116. That's not bad, but it is significantly less intelligent than Hillary's 140 IQ, as well as being lower than George W. Bush's 125 IQ (1206 SAT).

Before one points to the fact that Obama ranked highly in his class, it's important to keep in mind that Bill Bradley was a Princeton Rhodes Scholar despite his 485 Verbal SAT and mediocre 103 IQ. Academic success, like every other kind of success, is just as much about hard work and determination as it is about intellectual firepower, but Barack Obama's supporters obviously shouldn't be attempting to make their case for him on the basis of what is, based on the available information, probably an IQ of 116, only one standard deviation above the norm. Of course, this estimate is based on averages which don't necessarily apply to a single individual; Obama could lay the matter to rest by simply permitting his scores to be released to the public.

If his intelligence is so incredibly important, as some of his more visibly insane supporters insist, then surely the senator should inform us precisely how intelligent he is. Because he demonstrates his ignorance and a less-than-impressive intelligence nearly every time he opens his mouth despite his handlers attempts to retroactively fix his statements: "The fact that we have reached a point where the Federal Reserve felt it had to take this unprecedented step with the American Insurance Group is the final verdict on the failed economic philosophy of the last eight years."

First, AIG didn't fail because of the economic philosophy of the last eight years. The Fed began goosing the markets under Clinton. Second, that "unprecedented step" was taken with the American International Group.

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REPLY

FACTS

In 2003, 3 African nations, Ghana, South Africa, and Botswana, participated in TIMSS physics.  The average math score for the 5,150 students in Botswana who took the test was 377, seven of whom scored over 482, and none of whom scored over 517.  The average score for the 8,952 students in South Africa who took the test was 244, thirteen of whom scored over 447, and none of whom scored over 514.  So also in Ghana, where the average score for their 5,100 students was 261, seven of whom scored over 410, and none of whom scored over 517.

Conversely, the average score for the 6,018 students in Singapore was 610, eight of whom scored lower than 490, and none of whom scored lower than 450.  At best we can say that eight students in Singapore MAY have scored lower than SEVERAL of the thirteen highest scoring students in South Africa and SEVERAL of the seven highest scoring students in Ghana.  No student in Singapore scored 4 standard deviations higher than their mean, or 770, much less 5 standard deviations higher, at 810.

 

 

 

minus 5sd

minus 4sd

minus 3sd

minus 2sd

minus 1sd

Median

plus 1sd

plus 2sd

plus 3sd

plus 4sd

plus 5sd

2007 TIMSS Math Score http://timss.bc.edu/timss2007/intl_reports.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

also here

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

US

0.00267

0.2825

12.5

202.7

1,414

4,456

1,414

202.7

12

0.283

0.0027

8,912

 

297

336

375

414

453

492

531

570

609

648

687

78

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

492

Hong Kong

0.00149

0.1576

7.0

113.1

789

2,486

789

113.1

7

0.158

0.0015

4,972

 

414

448

482

516

550

584

618

652

686

720

754

68

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

584

Russia

0.00140

0.1479

6.5

106.2

740

2,334

740

106.2

7

0.148

0.0014

4,667

 

312

351

390

429

468

507

546

585

624

663

702

78

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

507

Botswana

0.00155

0.1633

7.2

117.2

817

2,575

817

117.2

7

0.163

0.0015

5,150

 

202

237

272

307

342

377

412

447

482

517

552

70

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

377

Ghana

0.00153

0.1617

7.1

116.0

809

2,550

809

116.0

7

0.162

0.0015

5,100

 

14

63

113

162

212

261

311

360

410

459

509

99

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

261

Singapore

0.00181

0.1908

8.4

136.9

955

3,009

955

136.9

8

0.191

0.0018

6,018

 

410

450

490

530

570

610

650

690

730

770

810

80

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

610

 

So needless to say, no student in Botswana, South Africa, nor Ghana ever scored four standard deviations higher, or 549, 514, or 489, respectively, either, much less five standard deviations higher, or 593, 581, or 551 respectively.  Such scores are in the range of the average for Taipei and Korea, whose IQs are in the range of 105 IQ points.  It simply boggles the imagination for us to be expected to believe that Obama was the ONE Kenyan in the entire world who scored not just one but TWO standard deviations higher than a place where NO student from Ghana, Botswana, or South Africa has ever ventured.  To claim that his IQ is 132 IQ points, yet another three standard deviations higher than the impossible, is the height of absurdity.  It would make Obama more valuable as a Wringly Brothers’ Circus freak than a six legged elephant.  Yet that’s exactly the claim that his presidential campaign made and you should be embarrassed to the hilt to see so many of your fellow countrymen fall for this circus act.

The average IQ of Kenya is 71 IQ points, the same as for Ghana, and 1 point lower than both Botswana and South Africa, at 72 IQ points.  Out of 38 million Kenyans, do you know how many score more than 5 standard deviations higher than that?  Only 11 do, at an IQ of only 96 IQ points, four standard deviations higher than their mean, and NONE have an IQ higher than 101 IQ points, five standard deviations higher than the mean.  Obama’s not even a Kenyan.  He’s a mixed breed and most mixed breeds of most species are of lower quality and intelligence than the pure breeds (otherwise why don’t mules race in horse races)?

California voters consider affirmative action to be CHEATING, which is why we outlawed it with Proposition 209 which actually amended the state constitution for the express purpose of KILLING it.  Obama is clearly left over from those days.

Why not simply require him to take the normal IQ test which any dog catcher in the country has to take in order to qualify for his job?

You can bet that this would settle the matter once and for all.      

 

 

You can see from the bottom ends of the Gaussian curves (bell curves) for all these scores that there is NO overlap between the lowest scoring student in Singapore or Hong Kong, and the highest scoring student in Botswana and Ghana. Not even the US, who scored extremely low for an industrialized nation, had much of an overlap with Ghana (30 students) and Botswana (400 students).  Conversely, the top end of our curve is just about on par with Russia, but more than a standard deviation lower than Singapore’s (and almost a standard deviation lower than Hong Kong).

 

 

 

Correction, Tues. Dec. 23, 2008: 7% of the population of Botswana is Whites who score similar to their brethren back in England at 545, meaning that the 93% who’re blacks scored 358.  Only seven black students from Botswana scored over 456 and none of them scored over 514.  Therefore, none of the lowest scoring eight students in Singapore who scored lower than 462 are likely to have scored lower than the seven top scoring black students from Botswana, meaning there was no overlap of test scores between Singapore and Botswana.

And THAT means that Obama LIED when he said his IQ was 132.  Many things he said of questionable veracity might be considered just matters of opinion, but THIS is a PROVABLE lie.  Even if all of his other questionable claims are 100% true, that does not absolve him of this KNOWN LIE.  Why LIE about this when it’s so easy to PROVE to be a lie?  He was too busy lying to stop and figure out when to stop lying?  He got away with so many other lies that what could possibly be wrong with one more white lie?  He thought the American public was so badly dumbed down that we’d never catch him in yet one more lie?  He did it just to thumb his huge Negroid nose at us honkies?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Who Runs it?

Senators:                            Barack Obama & Dick Durbin
Representative:                  Jesse Jackson, Jr.
Illinois Governor:                 Rod Blogojevich (arrested)
Illinois House leader:           Mike Madigan
Illinois Attorney General:     Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike)
Chicago Mayor:                  Richard M. Daley (son of Mayor Richard J. Daley)

The leadership in Illinois:  

All Democrats.

 
The combat zone in Chicago:
Body count in the last six months:        

   292 killed (murdered) in Chicago  
   221 killed in Iraq

State pension fund:

   $44 Billion in debt, worst in the country.

Cook County ( Chicago ) sales tax:

   10.25% highest in country. (Look it up).

Chicago school system:

   Rated one of the worst in the country.

Of course, they're all blaming each other.

They can't blame Republicans because there aren't any.

This is the political culture that Obama comes from in Illinois .  
And he's going to '"fix" Washington politics for us?

Good luck and may YAHWEH help us.