LemonBug:so I can keep them without Bush
jeremiahs: lemon, the first step to restoring God's Law is understanding what they are
LemonBug: law says to keep Passover in Jerusalem
LemonBug: how is that possible
jeremiahs: IF God's laws say that (which they don't), THEN we either do that, or write it all off
LemonBug: not enough room in Jerusalem to hold all christians
jeremiahs: how many more excuses do you have, lemon, for refusing to uphold God's Law?
LemonBug: I do uphold Gods law
magilla_4: JERM NOT EXCUSED
LemonBug: this nation might not but I do
magilla_4: CANT DO WHAT U CANT KEEP
magilla_4: LEMON I SHOULD HIM THAT
jeremiahs: no it doesn't lemon
cybart: So Jeremiah where do we start in reimplementing the Law?
magilla_4: HE WONT SEE IT
magilla_4: YES IT DOES I READ IT TO U
jeremiahs: it says in a place appointed by God
LemonBug: what place did he appoint
dusty_154: wb willie
LemonBug: he only appointed one place
dusty_154: glad your back
magilla_4: Deut 16:2 2 Thou shalt therefore sacrifice the passover unto the LORD thy God, of the flock and the herd, in the place which the LORD shall choose to place his name there. (KJV)
cybart: The New Jerusalem is coming down from Heaven - see Revelation
greenEyes5552: yes they did jerimiah
willie_175: The Israelites left Jerusalem long ago and the way was hedged up and they were never to return to that place. For it is now cursed with the antichrists
willie_175: The New Jerusalem is the United States of America, it is not that little bastard country in the middle east
jeremiahs: our list of excuses for REFUSING to follow God's Laws is getting REAL long
magilla_4: Deut 16:5-6 5 Thou mayest not sacrifice the passover within any of thy gates, which the LORD thy God giveth thee: 6 But at the place which the LORD thy God shall choose to place his name in, there thou shalt sacrifice the passover at even, at the going down of the sun, at the season that thou camest forth out of Egypt. (KJV)
cybart: The book of Revelation is calling Jerusalem as the Harlot, Egypt, Babylon the Great that will be burned (70 AD) all Christians left this Jerusalem
LemonBug: jere...I am not personally accountable for any nation who does not uphold Gods laws
LemonBug: I am only responsible for myself
greenEyes5552: bigger than that is why are you looking for a place.. he is looking for YOUR heart .not a building or place
magilla_4: temple gone in 70 ad
LemonBug: why did Paul say I have to go to Jersualem to attend the feast
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cybart: So ladies and gentlemen we are all sinners and are worthy of capital punishment - we are not true Christians! Therefore, repent fervently
jeremiahs: mag, for most Israelites (more than 95% of them) the temple was gone in 575 BC
jeremiahs: do you think they quit following God's Laws then?
LemonBug: Why did Paul say he had to be in Jerusalem to attend the feast
magilla_4: not the right one
magilla_4: samaria was not it ok
magilla_4: had to according to the law
LemonBug: Im talking about Paul
LemonBug: not Christ
cybart: Many didn't have to be circusized
greenEyes5552: shalom magilla and jerimiahs and everyone else....and Jerimiah don't know if I am from the house of Isreal.. but more and more I see the importance of keeping the law of righteousness in us... and that he showed us how.....
magilla_4: ok green thanks
cybart: The Christians celebrated another type of Passover not the one that was celebrated by the Pharisees and other "jews"
magilla_4: can i go to bed now
jeremiahs: stay here mag );
magilla_4: u beat me up to much
magilla_4: i have to go
magilla_4: fore i !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jeremiahs: gnight, mag--great forum!!
LemonBug: nite mag
magilla_4: lemon and all nite
dusty_154: night magilla
dusty_154: good night jeremiahs
dusty_154: good night Lemon
LemonBug: nite jer...
dusty_154: hey willie
LemonBug: nite dusty
dusty_154: he may be doing treatment
jeremiahs: brb Willie 4 minutes
dusty_154: hey i thought you were closing
dusty_154: hi salinger
salinger47: hi dusty :)
dusty_154: its to quiet in here
salinger47: hi jerimiah
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dusty_154: it is difficult salinger
jeremiahs: me too, dusty
jeremiahs: and that anger is growing every day
jeremiahs: it might be something as simple as this forum, dusty
dusty_154: or being born again
dusty_154: sitt is still amazing me
dusty_154: american mutt
jeremiahs: when the jews accuse Christ of being a jew, they are committing the ONLY unforgivable sin, which is blasphemy of the holy spirit
jeremiahs: they still claim Jesus was a jew
jeremiahs: they cannot believe in Him tho
jeremiahs: we cannot accept jews, sal
jeremiahs: and the Talmud prohibites jews to be baptized unless they do it to deceive Christians
jeremiahs: whoops, Willie is gone
jeremiahs: uh, oh, Willie's back
jeremiahs: ok sal, YHWH bless you
salinger47: :) night
willie_175: Had to take a breathig treament
jeremiahs: how are you feeling, Willie?
willie_175: Better now
jeremiahs: Wilma? who's Wilma );
willie_175: I think Wilma is a pretty name
jeremiahs: my Mother's name is Gladys
willie_175: My mothers is Thelma
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willie_175: My dad's name was Granville
willie_175: And a lot of people called him Granny, and people that didn't know him thought he was a woman until theymet him
willie_175: John my dad had 9 brothers and 5 sisters. And when he was 18 he went and talked to the forman on the Mattador Land and Cattle Co., and asked him for a job.
willie_175: The foreman said that unless my dad could whip him that he had no job for him, and that he had to fight him before he could get a job. My dad finally decided he was serious and hit him in the face and the fight was on. When it was over my dad had whipped him and he told daddy to take the 3rd bunk on the left side of the bunk house
willie_175: It is a true story, I can take you to Madador Texas and many of the old timers will tell you that
willie_175: Yes he worked for them about 10 years
willie_175: But the best ones was at Vernon Texas and was called the Santa Rosa Showdown
willie_175: They have rodios in ever small town in Texas, or at least in West Texas
willie_175: They threw my dad in with a mad bull one time to have a bull fight and dad just drew his gun and shot the bull.
willie_175: About this time of year
willie_175: The one at Paducah was last week
dusty_154: tell us
willie_175: I told dusty the story of my dad riding the roughest horse on the 6666 ranch.
willie_175: The word was spread around for miles, the cowboys all took up a collection to give dad if he could and it was about $1000 dollars. The cowboys and a lot of the people in town got in on the betting. The ranch owner took all bets against dad, for he said he had known granny for many years and he was the toughest man he ever knew.
willie_175: So the money was bet and dad mounted the house, and told them to open the gates that he didn
willie_175: didn't want to be helmed up in a pen with a mad horse so they opened the gate and let the horse go. Dad rode him out of sight, looking like he was going to reach for the clouds all the way
willie_175: After awhile when he didn't show up the cowboys started to saddle up their hourses thinking that dad was dead or hurt to bad to come back, about the time they were going to leave dad come back riding the hourse and he was as tame as a kitten
willie_175: I asked dad how he managed to get that horse so tame in so short a time and he sand easy I just rode him into a quicksand bog and the harder he wouldjump the deeper he would sink in the sand. Soon he was afriad to move. Then dad rode him out and back to the ranch. None of the other cowbouys could ride the horse but dad could saddle him and he would be as tame as all get out
willie_175: He was afrid that dad would ride him back into the quicksand
dusty_154: i thought the people just looked different
willie_175: dusty one time we were working some cattle and one cow was really angry at the whole thing, and was fighting the men on the horses so I got the bright idea that I would get the ford tractor and rope the cow. Well I did and the damn cow drug me all over the ranch and the cowboys laughing me all the times
willie_175: She looks like a man
dusty_154: was he gay
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willie_175: A ford tractor is a small tractor
willie_175: Its about half the size of a regular one
willie_175: No its a real tractor, only smaller than the big ones
willie_175: Yeah they laughted for days about that
willie_175: Willie the cow tractor driver
willie_175: Yeah its got four tets
willie_175: I used to take a tin cup when I was really little and dad would squirt some milk into it for me
willie_175: But I never got down and sucked the tet
thunderbell: good an you
thunderbell: just left the sons of thunde room
willie_175: Thunder rolling over the hills, and bells ringing and then along came thunderbell
willie_175: Yeah I am the poet that didn't know it
willie_175: Neither did anyone else
willie_175: Jeremiah gets his tongue twisted around his eye teeth about this time of morning thunderbell
thunderbell: its 11 30 her
dusty_154: almost 2:30 here
willie_175: Next thing you know he will call a cow a dog, a horse a cat, and a pig a chicken
willie_175: And Nevada
thunderbell: ya washington
willie_175: Its further west than Los Agelies
willie_175: I have a nephew living in Spokane
thunderbell: wher bouts
willie_175: Las Vegas
willie_175: I don't know he moved there about 15 years ago and I have not heard from him since
thunderbell: u mean spoke vagas
willie_175: He married a woman that had about 5 or 6 kids and then had one or two by him and they moved
thunderbell: lol nic for spokane is spoke vegas
willie_175: No he moved to Spokane Washington. I said Lal Vegas is further west than Los Angeles
thunderbell: im a she
willie_175: I am talking about Spokane
thunderbell: from benjamin
willie_175: See what I mean thunderbell he nuts this time of morning
thunderbell: studied identity for a couple years
thunderbell: was different
jeremiahs: Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and said about him, "Behold, an Israelite indeed, in whom is no deceit!" John 1:47
thunderbell: from others
willie_175: thunderbell would you like for me to send you a good study on the Israel Message
willie_175: and on 101 Marks of Israel
willie_175: If you would like a copy give me your email address and I will upload you them
thunderbell: i new what it was
thunderbell: i have found many factions though
thunderbell: not all believe the same
willie_175: Yes there are many false doctrines being presented in the Identity Message by the jews and other people that hate the idea of Israel, being alive and well today
willie_175: They want to spiritualize everything
willie_175: Because they are too lazy to study to make themselves approved
thunderbell: many believe but go on from there
willie_175: John in 1980 one could number the Identity people on their hands and feet. Today they run into the hundreds of thousands
thunderbell: only in my own heart
willie_175: If not millions
thunderbell: not excepting your birthright
willie_175: John I am going to bed and glad to meet you thunderbell. if you would like the studies give me your emaill address otherwise I am going to bed
thunderbell: ty willie
dusty_154: night willie
LivingOnAHigherPlain: it is good you caught that.. most do not
LivingOnAHigherPlain: the Holy Spirit is the third member of the God head
LivingOnAHigherPlain: but not the Father or the Son
willie_175: I will stay and send those to you if you like thunderbell
dusty_154: sounds like jeremiahs is sleepy
thunderbell: no thank you willie, i have studied many about it and burnt out
thunderbell: i just want the Lord to lead me
LivingOnAHigherPlain: holy spirit is the confirmer of truth
LivingOnAHigherPlain: what we think and what is truth is not always the same
LivingOnAHigherPlain: no.. nice try
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LivingOnAHigherPlain: The Holy spirit is a actuall spirit..
LivingOnAHigherPlain: which testifies of truth of all things
LivingOnAHigherPlain: even the truth of God..
LivingOnAHigherPlain: even angels speak by the power of the Holy Ghost..
LivingOnAHigherPlain: I know..
LivingOnAHigherPlain: for I have talked with the Lord about these thigs
LivingOnAHigherPlain: the body is our temple..
LivingOnAHigherPlain: if kepted clean..
LivingOnAHigherPlain: the holy spirit can be there. .
jeremiahs: but it existed before Jesus
jeremiahs: it's all over the Old Testament
LivingOnAHigherPlain: the Holy Spirit has always been even since adam
LivingOnAHigherPlain: and even before.
LivingOnAHigherPlain: how else did all the people know about truth.. the Holy Ghost is the teacher of Truth
LivingOnAHigherPlain: the holy Ghost is very big part of the God Head
LivingOnAHigherPlain: that is why we baptise in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost
LivingOnAHigherPlain: even though separate.. they work together..
LivingOnAHigherPlain: we were all spirit before we were flesh
dusty_154: agree jeremiahs
LivingOnAHigherPlain: the Holy Spirit can be in all.. who are worry of it..
LivingOnAHigherPlain: worthy of it
LivingOnAHigherPlain: those who seek to do what is right
LivingOnAHigherPlain: we are not perfect..
LivingOnAHigherPlain: yes.. you are again correct
LivingOnAHigherPlain: but it is a spirit.. which testifies of truth
jeremiahs: And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, [and] with his seed after him. Gen 17:19
LivingOnAHigherPlain: jieremiah.. you do realize you are teaching against almost every church on the earth.. though that is not important.. but I want you to consider that you may be misled.. that satan has planted a seed and has led you astray..
LivingOnAHigherPlain: lean not to your own understanding.. ASK God.. few do this..
LivingOnAHigherPlain: I know more than most, because I have asked..
LivingOnAHigherPlain: but you will need to do this for yourself
LivingOnAHigherPlain: you cannot build upon my testimony..
LivingOnAHigherPlain: and you sound sincere.. and if you knew... I am sure you would not teach false teachings.
LivingOnAHigherPlain: Holy.. pure, clean
jeremiahs: Remember that the LORD thy God considers Israelites, all descendants of Jacob, to be a holy, set apart, special, separate, peculiar, chosen people; a royal priesthood, high above all nations, a holy nation, redeemed of the LORD, called, sought out, and a city not forsaken:
LivingOnAHigherPlain: well.. you keep leaning to your own understanding..
LivingOnAHigherPlain: I will keep asking God
LivingOnAHigherPlain: as I know he teaches all truths..
prairieflowers: I'm blessed...and you?
jeremiahs: Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine: Exo 19:5
dusty_154: hello prairieflowers
LivingOnAHigherPlain: it seems to me you are just starting another church.. there are already 50,000+ churches.. what is one more
prairieflowers: Hello dusty
LivingOnAHigherPlain: 99 percent of christians do not believe what you teach.. although most dont understand it either
jeremiahs: For thou art a holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth. Deu 7:6
LivingOnAHigherPlain: so you say
LivingOnAHigherPlain: many say things
LivingOnAHigherPlain: again.. I say ASK God..
jeremiahs: For thou art a holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth. Deu 14:2
LivingOnAHigherPlain: anyway.. I will leave you to continue to ponder.. maybe one day you will figure it out
jeremiahs: no sound
LivingOnAHigherPlain: 1 cor 2:11
jeremiahs: try again on the mic
LivingOnAHigherPlain: hit wrong key sorry
jeremiahs: go ahead
LivingOnAHigherPlain: it is working.. just did not mean to talk
dusty_154: please do Living
LivingOnAHigherPlain: yes.. it is a real spirit
LivingOnAHigherPlain: well it did..
LivingOnAHigherPlain: how do you think Enoch learned all he did
jeremiahs: Thou hast avouched the LORD this day to be thy God, and to walk in his ways, and to keep his statutes, and his commandments, and his judgments, and to hearken unto his voice:
jeremiahs: And the LORD hath avouched thee this day to be his peculiar people, as he hath promised thee, and that thou shouldest keep all his commandments;
jeremiahs: And to make thee high above all nations which he hath made, in praise, and in name, and in honor; and that thou mayest be a holy people unto the LORD thy God, as he hath spoken. Deu 26:17-19
jeremiahs: The LORD shall establish thee a holy people unto himself, as he hath sworn unto thee, if thou shalt keep the commandments of the LORD thy God, and walk in his ways. Deu 28:9
jeremiahs: When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel. Deu 32:8
jeremiahs: Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me. [here David refers to the holy spirit which was in him] Psa 51:11
LivingOnAHigherPlain: in him
LivingOnAHigherPlain: that is correct
LivingOnAHigherPlain: as it is in me
jeremiahs: And they shall call them, The holy people, The redeemed of the LORD: and thou shalt be called, Sought out, A city not forsaken. Isa 62:12
LivingOnAHigherPlain: and in others
LivingOnAHigherPlain: it is a gift from God to those who make those covenants with him
prairieflowers: David sinned, but then he repented and was forgiven...but he still had to 'reap what he had sown"
jeremiahs: Isa 63:11 Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? where is he that put his Holy Spirit within him?
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LivingOnAHigherPlain: man can do it to himself
LivingOnAHigherPlain: man can turn away from it
LivingOnAHigherPlain: the holy spirit is very real
LivingOnAHigherPlain: it is not made up
LivingOnAHigherPlain: then how is it pride
LivingOnAHigherPlain: the holy spirit is not pride..
LivingOnAHigherPlain: it is a living spirit
LivingOnAHigherPlain: I understand what it means
LivingOnAHigherPlain: we were all spirit before we were born
prairieflowers: Where do you see the words "racial pride"...you are reading your own ideas into the text. It was a "behavior" pride..that God could see in Ruth, who was of a different race...
jeremiahs: And she said unto her husband, Behold now, I perceive that this is a holy man of God, which passeth by us continually. 2Ki 4:9
LivingOnAHigherPlain: God's people is all people who repent and come unto him.. those who do not repent.. are not the people of God
prairieflowers: She was a Moabitess
prairieflowers: The Bible says she was a Moabitess...she had a different God.
prairieflowers: a different "god"...and she left that god and clung to the Hebrew God
jeremiahs: If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are. 1Co 3:17
prairieflowers: That is to all who will believe in Jesus
prairieflowers: It is written that IN Christ, there is neither "Greek nor Jew"
jeremiahs: He said in reply, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Matthew 15:24
prairieflowers: He was sent to be the Messiah of the house of Israel. They rejected Him, and Grace was given to "whosoever" would believe
prairieflowers: So you are saying that a Chinese person cannot be saved in Jesus??
prairieflowers: Or a Mexican?
prairieflowers: Or an African?
jeremiahs: These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 10:5-9
prairieflowers: He told them to "go into ALL nations and make desciples of all men"
prairieflowers: "The Great Commission"....JESUS said it after the resurrection
prairieflowers: He said it.
prairieflowers: You never read the Gospels after He was resurrected
jeremiahs: He said in reply, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Matthew 15:24
prairieflowers: Israel had to reject Him so He would be crucified....He had to shed His blood
prairieflowers: He didn't reveal it all at once
prairieflowers: Matthew 28:19
prairieflowers: "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations..."
jeremiahs: "These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 10:5-9
prairieflowers: Paul said that the original branches were cut off so that the gentiles could be "grafted in"....you saying the Bible is lying?
prairieflowers: You are blinded by your hatred and fear. If you were trusting God, you wouldn't have to hate and fear all other humans on the earth.
dusty_154: i dont think jeremiahs fears anything