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I never thought of Mac-a-doo-doo as a 'white woman" just a bitch.

Mac.


On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:40 PM, John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

I hope there are no more white women like you. I don't recall talking to you before anyway.
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Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


I second the motion ... the gent has nothing of value to offer .....

his a bye-bye here ....................

and, watch, he'll come back with a new addy ... to peddle more crap ................

the pattern is so predictable ........... they cannot just slither away ....






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Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?



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John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you, and your E-mails are going into my junk mail box where they are automatically deleted so long as you continue to send them. You are trying to look rational, but to me you are scared shitless that you may have to share power with people of color. By the way, you should be able to see from my name that my ethnic background is French and Finnish. I am a white woman who hopes there are no other white women willing to breed with the likes of you.

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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

So - you have great hostility toward White People - right?

Nobody else ever does bad - it's just white people

You probably applaude when black power raises it's ugly fist as they did in washington state lately and killed some police officers - and when laraza trys to take over America and even they murder black people in the LA area (have you heard?)

Did you hear about the blacks that broke into a wichita home and after forcing the white women to do all kinds of things for them and to each other - almost all of the white people there were killed. Of course that's okay too - right?

I used to know a guy named grant bruer - he said and correctly that blacks are a very basic people and are wired for the congo. He said they couldn't change that if htey wanted to and I believe he was right. Living in a refined decent society is beyond them.

John Hansen

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Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Lordy.
Third world citizens have no value, they can't buy our goods. . .
The rest of the sentence doesn't say much, but that part says a big mouthful. Talk about a prejudice-- there's one in spades. And don't try to pin it on Predator as "his" prejudice-- he didn't make that up. All he did is give voice to one of our economic/cultural assumptions.

You could say our attitude has improved a little bit in recent years, though. Now we think they have at least a little bit of value-- as cheap labor..
Regards,
Al J
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Sent: Fri, Dec 4, 2009 10:13 am
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply.." We did that. Now what?
In a message dated 12/4/2009 8:35:56 AM Central Standard Time, vivaveridad@yahoo.ca writes:
Why is one American child more valuable than 450 -750 third world children?
Third world citizens have no value, they can't buy our goods, they are on the global dole, and what have they ever contributed to any society?




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----- Original Message -----
From: Terry Gabrich
To: JOHN to AT&T
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


And you know why this is don't you? Because blacks took over the government and country. The white race formed the government and was even in South Africa before the blacks migrated there. When Nelson Mandella took over, the country turn into a blood bath. The black response to the whites is to kill them. If they want to kill a few blacks along the way, than that is ok. Black tribes are constantly fighting one another, and in fact it was the blacks that put their people in slavery first. Throughout history there is no indication that whites actually owned black slaves. The slave masters and owners were Jews. Nelson Mandella, when he was president of South Africa actually sang songs about killing white people. If you listen to rap music, you will hear the singer talking about killing whites. That is the blacks intentions. The ANC has even warned whites that within a few hours of Nelson Mandella's death, that they will start killing whites just because their white. Could this happen to our country? YES. However, I believe that God will protect his own. The slaughter will happen, but it is the blacks and hybrids that will be slaughtered.




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From: John Hansen
Date: 12/6/2009 8:11:54 AM
To: Jacob Israel; Terry Gabrich
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

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By John Morse

A stunning article appeared in the Daily Mail (London) of October 30th, 2007. Written by Ross Benson, reporting first-hand from Johannesburg, it lifts the lid on the near-collapse of South Africa since white rule ended a few years ago.

And how may one measure that catastrophe? South Africa's regression towards primeval barbarism, which Benson details, is quite neatly summarised at the head of his article: A woman is raped every 28 seconds, qualified doctors are leaving in droves, while beggars and goats have set up home in the marble foyers of derelict banks. South Africa today has become a nation on the edge of self-destruction.

Law and order have to all intents and purposes broken down in South Africa. Any sense of security no longer exists. Says Benson of the countries crime: Farmers are butchered in their fields. The parks and beaches have become killing fields. Car-jackings with mind-numbing violence are a daily occurrence. The murder rate is running at 27,000 a year.

Benson then repeats the horrifying statistics for rape, of which more will be said. These figures, he comments, breed the kind of fear that has you leaping at shadows, jumping red lights and climbing out of bed in the middle of the night to check, yet again, that you have double-locked the doors.

For you to protect your home even halfway adequately, it now seems that you need to pay an armed response security firm. But whatever you do is never enough. One black businessman told Benson that he had lost count of the numbers of his friends who had been mugged.

Everyone is in the firing line. No social gathering can take place without horror stories being exchanged. But at this point we get some hint of the censorship that hitherto has been mobilised to keep as much as possible of the truth from the public gaze (presumably an increasingly difficult task in the ever-worsening crisis engulfing the country). A white security man commented on the criminal mayhem: It's happening to your friends, your brother, his wife, your sister, your mother, but, it isn't something you read in the papers or hear about on the television news any more.

Adds Benson: He carried a gun, but he wasn't fooling himself. He knew it could happen to him. In Mandela's ˜Rainbow Nation" the dream is running blood red. Clearly, South Africa's new ANC (African National Congress) Government is almost neurotically aware that the legitimacy of its rule is at stake here.

Decline of a city

Nowhere is the situation worse than in Johannesburg, where it is exemplified in all its worst manifestations. Benson gives a graphic description of how that unhappy city has declined. Here too, he comes courageously close to modern-day heresy in giving the White Man his historic due as the true creator of South Africa's original productive infra-structure (a subject today largely taboo in a world sold on the˜politically correct" elevation of the non-European at the expense of the European), and also focusing on the White Man's predicament now.

In a striking characterisation of the city, Benson writes: Built on the largest seam of gold ever discovered, this was once the richest city in Africa, a gleaming steel-and-glass citadel rising out of the brown ocean of the Veld, a testament to the economic power (and perhaps the innate character of the white community that built it, but also an example of what can be achieved by hard work and individual enterprise.

And now? the skyscrapers are still there, he continues, but the people who gave them life and prosperity have gone, driven out by hordes of squatters, beggars and illegal traders who bought Mandela's promise of a ˜better life for all" and demanded instant delivery.

He continues: Barbecues made of old oil cans blaze in the marble foyers of what used to be the headquarters of banks and airlines. There are goats tethered in hallways. Corrugated iron huts have sprung up on the once manicured lawns. This is not an environment in which any respectable business person, be they black or white, can live or work - and most have fled.

Benson next proceeds to a grim and frightening account of what has been very rapid urban and social decay in the centre of a city in which I once lived and worked myself. Now, even big business is quitting a metropolis of which it was once the raison tre.

The country's flag carrier, South African Airlines, has taken refuge in the distant outer suburbs. The big mining houses (which practically built the town) and even the Stock Exchange are to follow suit. It is evident they can hardly remain in a city centre in which it is unsafe for their employees to travel to and from work. Benson also reports that the Carlton Hotel has closed and sold all its contents, and the Holiday Inn is a deserted fortress, its 800 empty rooms protected by reinforced steel shutters. It is as if the London Hilton, the Dorchester and our other luxury hotels were to close down because order had totally collapsed, and the city had become uninhabitable! All this is the tale of one of the world's major cities crumbling into chaos and dereliction, perhaps one day in the not too distant future to become as defunct as ancient Babylon.

It is now impossible even to walk in any degree of safety to the South African Supreme Court building to get one's case heard. The alleyways leading to it are prowled by muggers who, says Benson, are not open to appeal. Although the court still goes through the motions of administering the law, this has, comments Benson, helped ease the backlog of cases in a country where, as other commentators have noted,˜affirmative action" has led to the colonisation of the bench by magistrates who are illiterate, incompetent, corrupt and racially and politically biased, and routinely bail murderers and rapists back into the community to re-offend. Cases are never dealt with, crime explodes - no law, no order!

Fear at night

No wonder Central Johannesburg is now so much a place to avoid, especially at night. As dusk falls, says Benson: the streets start filling with prostitutes and criminals pushing drugs, and pills that turn a black skin white - before eventually killing you (if AIDS hasn't claimed you first; up to 10 per cent of the population is carrying the virus and three quarters of the entire health budget will soon be spent on treating the incurable).

"You can hear the occasional sound of gunfire rolling down from Hillbrow, by cruel coincidence Johannesburg's first integrated neighbourhood. To many, including me (who once lived in that very high-rise district), this does not seem so much of a coincidence.

Implicitly referring to the consequences of ˜affirmative action", Benson describes how the police keep promising to move in and clean the place up; they never do, and if they did it probably wouldn't make any difference: the Minister in charge of so-called security recently admitted to parliament that a policeman is three times more likely to commit a serious crime than an average member of the public.

Summarising his observations of Johannesburg, Benson comments: So much for the dream. This is the reality - and it is a shocking one, worse than I had anticipated. I have seen cities abandoned in war. This is the first city I have ever seen abandoned to the barbarians in time of peace.

So what of the luckless Whites, themselves abandoned amid this chaos to the consequences of ˜multiracial democracy"? This, Benson makes clear, is not only a tale of de facto displacement by conditions of social chaos which white people find utterly intolerable; this in itself has caused mass white migrations. In Johannesburg those who opt to remain in proximity to the city have retreated to its northern outer suburbs. But there is a mass movement, in effect recoiling on the old pioneer routes, back to Cape Province, the region of South Africa in which Europeans first touched land. It is estimated that in five years 80 per cent of the country's Whites will be clustered towards the Cape.

Even in the Cape there is now a project to establish at least one urban area, some miles into the interior outside Cape Town, which will in practice be a fortified settlement. With property priced beyond what most Blacks, and quite a few poor Whites, could possibly afford, it is, at the size of Monaco, to be protected by a 33,000-volt fence and patrolled by armed guards.

But in addition, fearful of lawlessness, the white population is also being harassed and persecuted by the law. As Benson comments: The government has lost the battle of the streets but they have control of parliament, and they have used their power to pass legislation aimed specifically at one ethnic group.

Instead of apartheid, there is now ˜affirmative action", whereby Whites are de jure displaced from their jobs and deprived of their incomes to make way for Blacks, without regard for the latter's qualifications or abilities, but purely on racial grounds in order to redress past imbalances.

The result? Air traffic controllers are now being appointed who cannot read their instruments. According to Commissioner of Police George Fivaz, 30,000 of his officers are functionally illiterate. To supplement the facts quoted by Benson, one may add the purging of the health services over two years ago (as also reported at the time in the Daily Mail, by Peter Younghusband, the paper's then South African correspondent) by the Minister of Health Nkosazana Zuma, who replaced district surgeons and doctors with Cuban recruits competent neither in the English language nor as medical practitioners.

Working class whites thrown on scrapheap

Working class Whites are now being dumped and paid a miserable dole to make way for Africans. Benson quotes the example of a bus driver sacked after 17 years service. For blue-collar Whites, the economic trap-door has opened beneath them and dropped them below the poverty line. Unemployed and never likely to be employed, their children ragged and barefoot, dependent on benefits of 150 a month each, which is often not paid (the social services are being re-organised - and there's a sinister phrase!. Some families can no longer afford to feed themselves.These now rely on church soup kitchens.

Apparently, whilst the violently racist, anti-white politician Patricia De Lille says that Tony Blair has donated £20,000 to the home for sick children for which she works, no-one says Benson, is digging in their pockets to help poor Whites. They are off the end of Mandela's rainbow, without a pot of gold in sight.

The Government in the new South Africa is intolerant of opposition. According to white Democratic Party opposition leader Tony Leon, they want everyone to be ˜on side". If you criticise them - and we do vigorously - they call you neo-nazi racists (a strange epithet considering that Leon is Jewish). It seems that even Patricia De Lille - whose Pan-Africanist Party's slogan is One settler [i.e. white person], one bullet - has been battered by this accusation. The cause? She has been taking the ANC Government and its Ministers to task for the stupendous corruption whereby they have turned themselves and their most privileged supporters into a new class of fat cats (all very typical of post-colonial Africa).

Free school lunches promised by Mandela fail to reach the children; family allowances are not paid; council houses are so jerry-built they are virtually uninhabitable. But when these failures come under criticism as in the case of de Lille the response of the Government under the new president Mbeki is to threaten her with expulsion from parliament for being ˜racist, and bring in legislation to outlaw criticism of a persons ˜private life" which might impair their dignity. De Lille asks where the money for these public projects went, and answers into someone's pocket.

There was corruption under South Africa's ancien regime, as there is any country in the world under any government. But it was never, as it is today, on a scale sufficient to cause the collapse of whole areas of public administration.

In a nutshell, then, thanks to Ross Benson, we now have an overview of the ˜New South Africa" from which to take stock. What we see is a picture of vicious and exploding crime, of chaos verging on anarchy, of corruption and incompetence way beyond anything in the country's past, and of the racial harassment and persecution of the white minority - the people who actually built the country in the first place, and without whom there would have been literally nothing for their successors to take over and bring to ruin.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jacob Israel
To: Terry Gabrich
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 12:45 PM
Subject: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


<<<It is the policies in the United States government, and their constantly supporting blacks and other minorities that have caused the problem. They are legally discriminating against the people (the white race) who have produced literally all of the manufacturing, agriculture, and so forth throughout the history of the U.S. They do this in order to bring blacks and hybrids to an equality with the white people. This is something that can't be done. Blacks and hybrids are inferior to the white race, this also includes moral and ethical qualities. Blacks and hybrids are more animalistic in nature, and that is why they are more sexually motivated>>>

100% agreed.

"Our" government does exactly the OPPOSITE of what it was originally chartered to do in just about every arena, with affirmative action, the Equal Pay Act, MADD, the world's highest divorce rate thanks to government intervention, all the way to the Pension Benefit Guarantee Association which DESTROYED private pensions:

http://jacobisrael.com/ffff.htm

Blacks KNOW this. They KNOW that if Whites didn't agree to subsidize their lazy .sses, they'd be murdering each other off even faster than they already are, living on dirt floors, and eating cockroaches and snakes.

Sincerely,


John Knight



From: Terry Gabrich
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 7:28 AM
To: Jacob Israel
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


It is the policies in the United States government, and their constantly supporting blacks and other minorities that have caused the problem. They are legally discriminating against the people (the white race) who have produced literally all of the manufacturing, agriculture, and so forth throughout the history of the U.S. They do this in order to bring blacks and hybrids to an equality with the white people. This is something that can't be done. Blacks and hybrids are inferior to the white race, this also includes moral and ethical qualities. Blacks and hybrids are more animalistic in nature, and that is why they are more sexually motivated.




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Subject: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

<<<
One American child is more valuable than 450 -750 third world children.
>>>


I disagree.

I've been to most third world countries, including several African countries. I wouldn't give you a nickel for a niglet.

You have PAY people to adopt AMERICAN niglets.

A White baby on the open jew market costs $100,000 to a $million.

That makes American children [that is, American WHITE children] INFINITELY more valuable than a niglet in America, much less a niglet in Africa. And it would take MORE than a million dollars to make me adopt a niglet.

The author of the following has a criminally unsound understanding of the free enterprise system:

"And one child in the US uses more resources than 450 to 750 Third World children, especially with $200 sneakers in middle school."

Right now, that makes a lot of Chinese rich. And BEFORE affirmative action, before niggers destroyed every manufacturing industry all the way from shoes to cars to semiconductors, it made a lot of AMERICANS rich.

John Knight





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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


In a message dated 12/4/2009 12:45:36 AM Central Standard Time, nora22000@sbcglobal.net writes:
Yes, but corporate efforts are polluting the planet far more efficiently and thoroughly than people. And one child in the US uses more resources than 450 to 750 Third World children, especially with $200 sneakers in middle school.

One American child is more valuable than 450 -750 third world children.






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But according to you, the Jews are rich and in control of everything.

So nothing is holding the Jews back, is it?

Sounds like, to hear you tell it, the Jews are simply superior human beings to others.

Clearly the Jews are superior to all Germans .... at least to hear you tell the story.

You claim that the Germans were defeated by Jews in WW1 and WW2, that Churchill, Eisenhower and Roosevelt were all Jews, and Stalin as well.

So according to you, the Jews whupped the Germans butts twice in a row.

Clearly to follow the Nazi doctrine based on Darwin of the suprerior race dominanting, you should commit suicide because YOU are the inferior race. Accordign to YOUR Darwinist Nazi doctrine the Jews SHOULD (ought to) crowd out all other people and all other people should be extinct.

According to MY belief, by contrast, God died for all of humanity and race is irrelevant.


Jack Stone


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On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 4:04 PM, John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
Fixation on being a victim prevents Blacks and neo-Nazis alike from taking responsibility for their own lives and establishing a viable and workable, functioning society in their community.

That applies to the jews who spout victimhood at every opportunity.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Stone
To: John Hansen
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Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?




It is not racism to cite facts.

It may be motivated by racism to invent false facts and/or misrepresent them.

It is also racist to leap the unwarranted conclusion that the facts are explaiend by skin color rather than CULTURE.

There is no doubt that the culture which has come to be normal and accepted among SOME (perhaps most) Black communities -- AND ALSO AMONG MANY WHITE COMMUNITIES -- accepts as "normal" a lifestyle that is immoral and dysfunctional.

Fixation on being a victim prevents Blacks and neo-Nazis alike from taking responsibility for their own lives and establishing a viable and workable, functioning society in their community.

This is the same lifestyle and system of amorality that liberals are trying desperately to instill into ALL of American society.

And indeed it is the same culture of immorality and victimhood that prevails among Germans (Teutons) and neo-Nazis. The SAME irresponsibility and fixation on being a victim is at work among the neo-Nazis as with many Black cultures.

This is the belief system that the liberals are tying to make all of American society live by. It will be as destructive to all of society as it has been in the post-slavery Black community.

Jack Stone



On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 9:03 AM, John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

IT's not wonder we are down on those violent other races.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Explain this timmy. WHY are you animals so much more likely to
attack a white man? WHY are your own people having sex with 12 yr old
girls who have 5 litters by the time they're 18??

http://amren.com/
http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.pdf

Major Findings
• Police and the justice system are not biased against minorities.
Crime Rates
• Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to
commit murder,
and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
• When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times
more likely
than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a
knife.
• Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white
rate, and
Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate..
• The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the
percentage of
the population that is black and Hispanic.
Interracial Crime
• Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every
year involving
blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15
percent.
• Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against
blacks. Fortyfive
percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10
percent are
Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of
their victims are
black.
• Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent
crime against
a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
• Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated
hate crimes
against whites than vice versa.
Gangs
• Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
• Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of
youth gangs.
Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more
likely.
Incarceration
• Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled,
from 139
to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from
320,000 to 1.39
million.
• Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites.
Hispanics are
three times more likely.



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Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:45 AM
Subject: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


John Hanson asked simply:

"So - you have great hostility toward White People - right?"

An obvious racist known on the net as "Claudette Konola" whined, and thus begun a whole flurry of self-hating email:

"John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you [ad infinitum]... "

It's a simple question. And while you think you didn't answer it, Claudette, we know from your response that you DO HATE White people just as John surmised.

Now here's another question. What exactly is it about the US Constitution which makes you muds think YOU have a right to free speech that us WHITES do not have? Why can YOU hurl such insults, and we can't even ask a simple question of you? Why do you HATE simple discussions about race so much. I'd really like to know.

John Knight






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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


I don't agree with everything, or most things that Predator writes....but I know him and I know that he writes the things he does to get the reaction you and Claudette are displaying......in other words you gave him what he wants. If someone wants to block someone why do they feel the need to make a big deal about it as if the blockee is going to have an emotional breakdown and have their lives ruined? It's just not that important to most people......if a friend said I'm going to block you I would care but someone you don't even know!

Patty
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Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2009 11:43:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


Claudette, Patty seems to have focused an unimportant aspect of your note, which made an excellent point about
the fear behind the rationalization of racism.


And while I'm sure she didn't intend this, her comment enabled Predator then to put down the French ...


Another on this list has decried blocking the racist component on this list as censorship and against
freedom of speech.


If I have learned one thing by being on this list, it is that arguing with people only polarizes their positions. It does not change anyone's mind.


I suspect those who deny the majority of people on earth their humanity will only be cheered if they upset us.


I do not feel it is my duty to provide them with a forum for their fear and hatreds.


I agree with you there is no point in attempting discussion with them, and I take them off the list every time I send an
e-mail.


If the rest of you wish to argue with them and give their positions credibility, that is your right.




From: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:25:02 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


Patty, what did I ever do to you to make you hate me so much? You seem to have this need to challenge everything I write. This one is just silly.

Claudette is a French name. http://www.behindthename.com/name/claudette

CLAUDETTE
Gender: Feminine
Usage: French
Pronounced: klo-DET [key]
French feminine form of CLAUDIUS

Konola is a very common Finnish Name. In fact if you google “Konola” you will find that most of the information that comes up is about a Finnish racing team, a well known Finnish artist, and an Nokia executive—in Finland.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBR_enUS274US274&q=Konola


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Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 8:03 AM

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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

I'm curious as to how someone could tell that Claudette Konola is of French and Finnish descent. Maybe I'm just missing something but it doesn't appear that obvious to me.

Patty
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Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2009 9:21:57 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you, and your E-mails are going into my junk mail box where they are automatically deleted so long as you continue to send them. You are trying to look rational, but to me you are scared shitless that you may have to share power with people of color. By the way, you should be able to see from my name that my ethnic background is French and Finnish. I am a white woman who hopes there are no other white women willing to breed with the likes of you.

From: John Hansen [mailto:majorhart@sbcglobal.net]

Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:38 PM

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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

So - you have great hostility toward White People - right?

Nobody else ever does bad - it's just white people

You probably applaude when black power raises it's ugly fist as they did in washington state lately and killed some police officers - and when laraza trys to take over America and even they murder black people in the LA area (have you heard?)

Did you hear about the blacks that broke into a wichita home and after forcing the white women to do all kinds of things for them and to each other - almost all of the white people there were killed. Of course that's okay too - right?

I used to know a guy named grant bruer - he said and correctly that blacks are a very basic people and are wired for the congo. He said they couldn't change that if htey wanted to and I believe he was right. Living in a refined decent society is beyond them.

John Hansen

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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Lordy.
Third world citizens have no value, they can't buy our goods. . .
The rest of the sentence doesn't say much, but that part says a big mouthful. Talk about a prejudice-- there's one in spades. And don't try to pin it on Predator as "his" prejudice-- he didn't make that up. All he did is give voice to one of our economic/cultural assumptions.

You could say our attitude has improved a little bit in recent years, though. Now we think they have at least a little bit of value-- as cheap labor..
Regards,
Al J
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Sent: Fri, Dec 4, 2009 10:13 am
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
In a message dated 12/4/2009 8:35:56 AM Central Standard Time, vivaveridad@yahoo.ca writes:
Why is one American child more valuable than 450 -750 third world children?
Third world citizens have no value, they can't buy our goods, they are on the global dole, and what have they ever contributed to any society?





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They are pretty much in control of everything and wanting it all.

>Sounds like, to hear you tell it, the Jews are simply superior human beings to others.

No - might doesn't make right - charles manson wasn't superior he was the most ruthless.

Jews are the most crooked and the ethnocentricism gives them an advatage over others and they use it.

That's why they won't give their full allegiance to America - they are loyal only to other jews.

As for the germans / jews - I don't know much about that.

White People are no inferior to anyone - their biggest fault is being too kind, generous and tolerant.

But, we're learning.

John Hansen

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To: John Hansen
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Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?




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But according to you, the Jews are rich and in control of everything.

So nothing is holding the Jews back, is it?

Sounds like, to hear you tell it, the Jews are simply superior human beings to others.

Clearly the Jews are superior to all Germans .... at least to hear you tell the story.

You claim that the Germans were defeated by Jews in WW1 and WW2, that Churchill, Eisenhower and Roosevelt were all Jews, and Stalin as well.

So according to you, the Jews whupped the Germans butts twice in a row.

Clearly to follow the Nazi doctrine based on Darwin of the suprerior race dominanting, you should commit suicide because YOU are the inferior race. Accordign to YOUR Darwinist Nazi doctrine the Jews SHOULD (ought to) crowd out all other people and all other people should be extinct.

According to MY belief, by contrast, God died for all of humanity and race is irrelevant.


Jack Stone


On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 4:04 PM, John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
Fixation on being a victim prevents Blacks and neo-Nazis alike from taking responsibility for their own lives and establishing a viable and workable, functioning society in their community.

That applies to the jews who spout victimhood at every opportunity.
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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?




It is not racism to cite facts.

It may be motivated by racism to invent false facts and/or misrepresent them.

It is also racist to leap the unwarranted conclusion that the facts are explaiend by skin color rather than CULTURE.

There is no doubt that the culture which has come to be normal and accepted among SOME (perhaps most) Black communities -- AND ALSO AMONG MANY WHITE COMMUNITIES -- accepts as "normal" a lifestyle that is immoral and dysfunctional.

Fixation on being a victim prevents Blacks and neo-Nazis alike from taking responsibility for their own lives and establishing a viable and workable, functioning society in their community.

This is the same lifestyle and system of amorality that liberals are trying desperately to instill into ALL of American society.

And indeed it is the same culture of immorality and victimhood that prevails among Germans (Teutons) and neo-Nazis. The SAME irresponsibility and fixation on being a victim is at work among the neo-Nazis as with many Black cultures.

This is the belief system that the liberals are tying to make all of American society live by. It will be as destructive to all of society as it has been in the post-slavery Black community.

Jack Stone



On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 9:03 AM, John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

IT's not wonder we are down on those violent other races.

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Explain this timmy. WHY are you animals so much more likely to
attack a white man? WHY are your own people having sex with 12 yr old
girls who have 5 litters by the time they're 18??

http://amren.com/
http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.pdf

Major Findings
• Police and the justice system are not biased against minorities.
Crime Rates
• Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to
commit murder,
and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
• When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times
more likely
than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a
knife.
• Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white
rate, and
Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate...
• The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the
percentage of
the population that is black and Hispanic.
Interracial Crime
• Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every
year involving
blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15
percent.
• Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against
blacks. Fortyfive
percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10
percent are
Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of
their victims are
black.
• Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent
crime against
a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
• Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated
hate crimes
against whites than vice versa.
Gangs
• Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
• Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of
youth gangs.
Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more
likely.
Incarceration
• Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled,
from 139
to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from
320,000 to 1.39
million.
• Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites.
Hispanics are
three times more likely.



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Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:45 AM
Subject: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


John Hanson asked simply:

"So - you have great hostility toward White People - right?"

An obvious racist known on the net as "Claudette Konola" whined, and thus begun a whole flurry of self-hating email:

"John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you [ad infinitum]... "

It's a simple question. And while you think you didn't answer it, Claudette, we know from your response that you DO HATE White people just as John surmised.

Now here's another question. What exactly is it about the US Constitution which makes you muds think YOU have a right to free speech that us WHITES do not have? Why can YOU hurl such insults, and we can't even ask a simple question of you? Why do you HATE simple discussions about race so much. I'd really like to know.

John Knight






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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


I don't agree with everything, or most things that Predator writes.....but I know him and I know that he writes the things he does to get the reaction you and Claudette are displaying......in other words you gave him what he wants. If someone wants to block someone why do they feel the need to make a big deal about it as if the blockee is going to have an emotional breakdown and have their lives ruined? It's just not that important to most people......if a friend said I'm going to block you I would care but someone you don't even know!

Patty
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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


Claudette, Patty seems to have focused an unimportant aspect of your note, which made an excellent point about
the fear behind the rationalization of racism.


And while I'm sure she didn't intend this, her comment enabled Predator then to put down the French ...


Another on this list has decried blocking the racist component on this list as censorship and against
freedom of speech.


If I have learned one thing by being on this list, it is that arguing with people only polarizes their positions. It does not change anyone's mind.


I suspect those who deny the majority of people on earth their humanity will only be cheered if they upset us.


I do not feel it is my duty to provide them with a forum for their fear and hatreds.


I agree with you there is no point in attempting discussion with them, and I take them off the list every time I send an
e-mail.


If the rest of you wish to argue with them and give their positions credibility, that is your right.




From: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:25:02 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


Patty, what did I ever do to you to make you hate me so much? You seem to have this need to challenge everything I write. This one is just silly.

Claudette is a French name. http://www.behindthename.com/name/claudette

CLAUDETTE
Gender: Feminine
Usage: French
Pronounced: klo-DET [key]
French feminine form of CLAUDIUS

Konola is a very common Finnish Name. In fact if you google “Konola” you will find that most of the information that comes up is about a Finnish racing team, a well known Finnish artist, and an Nokia executive—in Finland.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBR_enUS274US274&q=Konola


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Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 8:03 AM

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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

I'm curious as to how someone could tell that Claudette Konola is of French and Finnish descent. Maybe I'm just missing something but it doesn't appear that obvious to me.

Patty
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Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2009 9:21:57 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you, and your E-mails are going into my junk mail box where they are automatically deleted so long as you continue to send them. You are trying to look rational, but to me you are scared shitless that you may have to share power with people of color. By the way, you should be able to see from my name that my ethnic background is French and Finnish. I am a white woman who hopes there are no other white women willing to breed with the likes of you.

From: John Hansen [mailto:majorhart@sbcglobal.net]

Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:38 PM

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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

So - you have great hostility toward White People - right?

Nobody else ever does bad - it's just white people

You probably applaude when black power raises it's ugly fist as they did in washington state lately and killed some police officers - and when laraza trys to take over America and even they murder black people in the LA area (have you heard?)

Did you hear about the blacks that broke into a wichita home and after forcing the white women to do all kinds of things for them and to each other - almost all of the white people there were killed. Of course that's okay too - right?

I used to know a guy named grant bruer - he said and correctly that blacks are a very basic people and are wired for the congo. He said they couldn't change that if htey wanted to and I believe he was right. Living in a refined decent society is beyond them.

John Hansen

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<<<You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature? Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten. They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together. My son
is white and the first friend was black. My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy. He simply
enjoyed his company. >>>



Actually, "racism" was created by jews, not nature.

Do you know why the word is not in Scripture. There WAS no such concept in the entire Holy Bible, and in fact God punished Solomon severely for NOT being a racist, when he married the Egyptian daughter of the pharaoh:

And King Solomon loved many foreign [nikro, Strong's #5237] women, even the daughter of Pharaoh, Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians, Hittites; 1 Kings 11:1
Did not Solomon king of Israel sin by these things? yet among many nations was there no king like him, and he was beloved of his God, and God made him king over all Israel: nevertheless even him did foreign [nikro, Strong's #5237] women cause to sin. Nehemiah 13:26-27
http://fathersmanifesto.net/sin.htm

Do you know why it's not in the Declaration of Independence or the US Constitution? Because the word "racism" wasn't even coined until a century and a half after it was ratified, and even then it meant something the exact opposite of the way you're using it (it was equated to being a nationalist, or patriot, not necessarily bad traits).

There are more definitions of this word than there are people in the US. To a jew in Russia, a racist is a Russian who claims that only descendants of the Rus are Russians, which jews in Russia know they are not. To a jew in "Israel", a racist is a jew from Russia who they claim are "Russians pretending to be jews". When these "Israelis" then come to the US, they consider a "racist" to be one who upholds EXISTING immigration laws. Thus, to NOT be a racist to them, you must be a criminal or an outlaw. To a nigger in Africa, a racist is an American nigger, but to an American nigger, a racist is a WHITE man who simply wants to associate only with his own.

Of course it's ok for jews, niggers, and Mexican to be racists--it's only us honkies who can't.

John Knight







From: "Mr. Dinga" <mrdinga@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 6:29 PM
To: "Judy Hayner" <edpals2@yahoo.com>, "Tom" <boldsaber@gmail.com>, "gary beauregard" <beau@gcbussu.com>, "Jimmy Jumshade" <jimmybug@rocketmail.com>, "Claudette Konola" <Konola@Bresnan.net>, phayes9402@comcast.net

Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?



So you haven't seen much CHANGE? Do you still HOPE for it? I'd rather have a politician get elected and do nothing about our situation than one get elected on the premise of doing something but whom still never does. At least then I wouldn't feel blatantly lied to. It's not as if I'm not going to feel lied to anyway, but at least the situation could be KEPT AT BAY by not doing anything versus someone promising to FIX IT and then just adding more and more to it anyway.




From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:15 PM

Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Thanks, Tom. It has been years since I read any Neitsche and found him dark back then. I really have not studied Marx.
I have knowledge of his theories, but have not found them to be realistic.

Tried reading Hegel once in college, had a crush on a boy who was crazy for him, but never found it my cup of tea.

What are the specifics of what Obama is doing that lead you to say we are in a totalitarian regime ?

I am concerned about several things that are going on with this administration, but the these things are continuations of what
was begun in the Bush administration.








From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>

Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 11:36:46 AM

Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Judy, Those 4 philosophers had an extremely negative outlook on mankind and particularly of what they considered the "ruling class'. They all believed, in various degrees and small personal deviations, that a man was shaped by his work but that pleasure and happiness were determined by that ruling class and that the proletariat (the workers) had no choice in determining happiness or good. If he who controlled the means of production decided that workers would be happiest in taking one bath a month, it became the rule. That's why Marx, for example, predicted a proletariat revolution as those of the lower class faced a life of disappointment and frustration and that the revolution is inevitable. The failure of their philosophy is in understanding that replacing a royalty or a "corporation" or a monarch with a totalitarian government is only replacing one "ruling class" for another. A fallacy which we see full bore in the present administration as well.

They definitely didn't espouse the golden rule, far from it, and the USSR under Stalin is the closest I can come to the fulfillment of their philosophy, (Of course, Obama is certainly in the running today), although in reality, the 1917 Revolution ONLY proved that even the proletariat, when successful in their revolt and becoming the ruling class themselves inflicted just as much pain and suffering on a new proletariat or those of their former class who were left behind. Of course, as I wrote in a different post, faith and hope are anathema to the existence of any totalitarian sutocracy, whatever flavor you choose.

Tom

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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


"Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be."

Bear

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From what some of the posters on this e-mail string are writing, it does seem you are correct, Bear.

I had been aware that people like that existed, but I rarely meet anyone like that.

I certainly have not talked to anyone before who espouses a white separatist viewpoint like some on this list do.

One of the reasons we chose to live where we live was because of the racial diversity.
And the area I live in has only become much more racially and ethnically diverse.

In addition to my son's first friend who was black, one of my daughter's pre-school pals was Muslim with a white dad
and a mom from Singapore (she was really interesting). Currently, each of my kids have a varied group of friends,
with daughter being close to a girl with Pakistani heritage, and my son with a boy whose family comes from India, and is
Hindu.

In my job, I see children and people from all over the world.
Everyone I work with treats them all with respect. If anyone is hating any of these children, they are certainly keeping it to themselves.

Also, Tom, what are you saying that Neitsche, Marx, Hegel and Engel believed? The Golden Rule? Or that we as a species will never follow the golden rule?

Many cultures have a version of the golden rule. I had a poster once, it was decades old and it had all the
different versions printed on it. I put it on the refrigerator when my kids were little. Now there is an organization that
has done the same thing. It is just such a basic way of thinking that helps prevent problems from

And somehow, a crucial part of this discussion has been omitted, the part where JimmyJumshade spoke of racism as a natural defense mechanism created by nature, or something like that. It was his coment that I replied to.

Several passages in the New Testament quote Jesus of Nazareth espousing the golden rule, including the following:
Matthew 7:12
12Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Luke 6:31
31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
Luke 10:25-28
25And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 26He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? 27And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. 28And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
The passage in the book of Luke then continues with Jesus answering the question, "Who is my neighbor?", by telling the parable of the Good Samaritan, indicating that "your neighbour" means a total stranger, or someone that happens to be nearby. Jesus' teaching, however, goes beyond the negative formulation of not doing what one would not like done to themselves, to the positive formulation of actively doing good to another that, if the situations were reversed, one would desire that the other would do for them. This formulation, as indicated in the parable of the Good Samaritan, emphasises the needs for positive action that brings benefit to another, not simply restraining oneself from negative activities that hurt another. Taken as a rule of judgement, both formulations of the golden rule, the negative and positive, are equally applicable.[25]




From: gary beauregard <beau@gcbussu.com>
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 9:56:54 AM

Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be.


Bear

--- On Sun, 12/6/09, Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 10:19 AM
Actually Nietsche, Hegel, Marx, and Engel believed that.

Tom

ARMY STRONG!! This We'll Defend.

From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:44 PM

Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

So, you are saying that as a species we can never treat each other as we would like to be treated, with understanding, love
and respect?

I don't think this is what you mean, but it is coming off that way.

Why accept things as they are? Actually, new ideas are rarely accepted quickly. Of course the idea of racial equality
has been around for quite some time but it is clear not everyone has gotten the memo!

You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature? Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten. They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together. My son
is white and the first friend was black. My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy. He simply
enjoyed his company.




From: Jimmy Jumshade <jimmybug@rocketmail.com>
To: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>; phayes9402@comcast.net; Judy Hayner <edpals2@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 11:09:36 AM

Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 8:43 AM
Claudette, Patty seems to have focused an unimportant aspect of your note, which made an excellent point about
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the fear behind the rationalization of racism.

And while I'm sure she didn't intend this, her comment enabled Predator then to put down the French ...

Another on this list has decried blocking the racist component on this list as censorship and against
freedom of speech.

If I have learned one thing by being on this list, it is that arguing with people only polarizes their positions. It does not change anyone's mind.

I suspect those who deny the majority of people on earth their humanity will only be cheered if they upset us.

I do not feel it is my duty to provide them with a forum for their fear and hatreds.

I agree with you there is no point in attempting discussion with them, and I take them off the list every time I send an
e-mail.

If the rest of you wish to argue with them and give their positions credibility, that is your right.

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From: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:25:02 AM
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Patty, what did I ever do to you to make you hate me so much? You seem to have this need to challenge everything I write. This one is just silly.

Claudette is a French name. http://www.behindthename.com/name/claudette

CLAUDETTE
Gender: Feminine
Usage: French
Pronounced: klo-DET [key]
French feminine form of CLAUDIUS

Konola is a very common Finnish Name. In fact if you google "Konola" you will find that most of the information that comes up is about a Finnish racing team, a well known Finnish artist, and an Nokia executive-in Finland.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBR_enUS274US274&q=Konola


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I'm curious as to how someone could tell that Claudette Konola is of French and Finnish descent. Maybe I'm just missing something but it doesn't appear that obvious to me.

Patty
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John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you, and your E-mails are going into my junk mail box where they are automatically deleted so long as you continue to send them. You are trying to look rational, but to me you are scared shitless that you may have to share power with people of color. By the way, you should be able to see from my name that my ethnic background is French and Finnish. I am a white woman who hopes there are no other white women willing to breed with the likes of you.

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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

So - you have great hostility toward White People - right?

Nobody else ever does bad - it's just white people

You probably applaude when black power raises it's ugly fist as they did in washington state lately and killed some police officers - and when laraza trys to take over America and even they murder black people in the LA area (have you heard?)

Did you hear about the blacks that broke into a wichita home and after forcing the white women to do all kinds of things for them and to each other - almost all of the white people there were killed. Of course that's okay too - right?

I used to know a guy named grant bruer - he said and correctly that blacks are a very basic people and are wired for the congo. He said they couldn't change that if htey wanted to and I believe he was right. Living in a refined decent society is beyond them.

John Hansen

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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Lordy.
Third world citizens have no value, they can't buy our goods. . .
The rest of the sentence doesn't say much, but that part says a big mouthful. Talk about a prejudice-- there's one in spades. And don't try to pin it on Predator as "his" prejudice-- he didn't make that up. All he did is give voice to one of our economic/cultural assumptions.

You could say our attitude has improved a little bit in recent years, though. Now we think they have at least a little bit of value-- as cheap labor..
Regards,
Al J
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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
In a message dated 12/4/2009 8:35:56 AM Central Standard Time, vivaveridad@yahoo.ca writes:
Why is one American child more valuable than 450 -750 third world children?
Third world citizens have no value, they can't buy our goods, they are on the global dole, and what have they ever contributed to any society?




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I wouldn't let a kid of mine do anything with one of the other races - the next think you know if he is male he will be DEAD and if femail beaten and pregnant.

To put them in that kind of danger is child abuse.
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Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 12:10 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


<<<You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature? Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten. They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together. My son
is white and the first friend was black. My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy. He simply
enjoyed his company. >>>



Actually, "racism" was created by jews, not nature.

Do you know why the word is not in Scripture. There WAS no such concept in the entire Holy Bible, and in fact God punished Solomon severely for NOT being a racist, when he married the Egyptian daughter of the pharaoh:

And King Solomon loved many foreign [nikro, Strong's #5237] women, even the daughter of Pharaoh, Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians, Hittites; 1 Kings 11:1
Did not Solomon king of Israel sin by these things? yet among many nations was there no king like him, and he was beloved of his God, and God made him king over all Israel: nevertheless even him did foreign [nikro, Strong's #5237] women cause to sin. Nehemiah 13:26-27
http://fathersmanifesto.net/sin.htm

Do you know why it's not in the Declaration of Independence or the US Constitution? Because the word "racism" wasn't even coined until a century and a half after it was ratified, and even then it meant something the exact opposite of the way you're using it (it was equated to being a nationalist, or patriot, not necessarily bad traits).

There are more definitions of this word than there are people in the US. To a jew in Russia, a racist is a Russian who claims that only descendants of the Rus are Russians, which jews in Russia know they are not. To a jew in "Israel", a racist is a jew from Russia who they claim are "Russians pretending to be jews". When these "Israelis" then come to the US, they consider a "racist" to be one who upholds EXISTING immigration laws. Thus, to NOT be a racist to them, you must be a criminal or an outlaw. To a nigger in Africa, a racist is an American nigger, but to an American nigger, a racist is a WHITE man who simply wants to associate only with his own.

Of course it's ok for jews, niggers, and Mexican to be racists--it's only us honkies who can't.

John Knight







From: "Mr. Dinga" <mrdinga@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 6:29 PM
To: "Judy Hayner" <edpals2@yahoo.com>, "Tom" <boldsaber@gmail.com>, "gary beauregard" <beau@gcbussu..com>, "Jimmy Jumshade" <jimmybug@rocketmail.com>, "Claudette Konola" <Konola@Bresnan.net>, phayes9402@comcast.net
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


So you haven't seen much CHANGE? Do you still HOPE for it? I'd rather have a politician get elected and do nothing about our situation than one get elected on the premise of doing something but whom still never does. At least then I wouldn't feel blatantly lied to. It's not as if I'm not going to feel lied to anyway, but at least the situation could be KEPT AT BAY by not doing anything versus someone promising to FIX IT and then just adding more and more to it anyway.




From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Thanks, Tom. It has been years since I read any Neitsche and found him dark back then. I really have not studied Marx.
I have knowledge of his theories, but have not found them to be realistic.

Tried reading Hegel once in college, had a crush on a boy who was crazy for him, but never found it my cup of tea.

What are the specifics of what Obama is doing that lead you to say we are in a totalitarian regime ?

I am concerned about several things that are going on with this administration, but the these things are continuations of what
was begun in the Bush administration.








From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>

Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 11:36:46 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Judy, Those 4 philosophers had an extremely negative outlook on mankind and particularly of what they considered the "ruling class'. They all believed, in various degrees and small personal deviations, that a man was shaped by his work but that pleasure and happiness were determined by that ruling class and that the proletariat (the workers) had no choice in determining happiness or good. If he who controlled the means of production decided that workers would be happiest in taking one bath a month, it became the rule. That's why Marx, for example, predicted a proletariat revolution as those of the lower class faced a life of disappointment and frustration and that the revolution is inevitable. The failure of their philosophy is in understanding that replacing a royalty or a "corporation" or a monarch with a totalitarian government is only replacing one "ruling class" for another. A fallacy which we see full bore in the present administration as well.

They definitely didn't espouse the golden rule, far from it, and the USSR under Stalin is the closest I can come to the fulfillment of their philosophy, (Of course, Obama is certainly in the running today), although in reality, the 1917 Revolution ONLY proved that even the proletariat, when successful in their revolt and becoming the ruling class themselves inflicted just as much pain and suffering on a new proletariat or those of their former class who were left behind. Of course, as I wrote in a different post, faith and hope are anathema to the existence of any totalitarian sutocracy, whatever flavor you choose.

Tom

ARMY STRONG!! This We'll Defend.

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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


"Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be."

Bear


From what some of the posters on this e-mail string are writing, it does seem you are correct, Bear.

I had been aware that people like that existed, but I rarely meet anyone like that.

I certainly have not talked to anyone before who espouses a white separatist viewpoint like some on this list do.

One of the reasons we chose to live where we live was because of the racial diversity.
And the area I live in has only become much more racially and ethnically diverse.

In addition to my son's first friend who was black, one of my daughter's pre-school pals was Muslim with a white dad
and a mom from Singapore (she was really interesting). Currently, each of my kids have a varied group of friends,
with daughter being close to a girl with Pakistani heritage, and my son with a boy whose family comes from India, and is
Hindu.

In my job, I see children and people from all over the world.
Everyone I work with treats them all with respect. If anyone is hating any of these children, they are certainly keeping it to themselves.

Also, Tom, what are you saying that Neitsche, Marx, Hegel and Engel believed? The Golden Rule? Or that we as a species will never follow the golden rule?

Many cultures have a version of the golden rule.. I had a poster once, it was decades old and it had all the
different versions printed on it. I put it on the refrigerator when my kids were little. Now there is an organization that
has done the same thing. It is just such a basic way of thinking that helps prevent problems from

And somehow, a crucial part of this discussion has been omitted, the part where JimmyJumshade spoke of racism as a natural defense mechanism created by nature, or something like that. It was his coment that I replied to.

Several passages in the New Testament quote Jesus of Nazareth espousing the golden rule, including the following:
Matthew 7:12
12Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Luke 6:31
31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
Luke 10:25-28
25And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 26He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? 27And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. 28And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
The passage in the book of Luke then continues with Jesus answering the question, "Who is my neighbor?", by telling the parable of the Good Samaritan, indicating that "your neighbour" means a total stranger, or someone that happens to be nearby. Jesus' teaching, however, goes beyond the negative formulation of not doing what one would not like done to themselves, to the positive formulation of actively doing good to another that, if the situations were reversed, one would desire that the other would do for them. This formulation, as indicated in the parable of the Good Samaritan, emphasises the needs for positive action that brings benefit to another, not simply restraining oneself from negative activities that hurt another. Taken as a rule of judgement, both formulations of the golden rule, the negative and positive, are equally applicable.[25]




From: gary beauregard <beau@gcbussu.com>
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 9:56:54 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be.

Bear

--- On Sun, 12/6/09, Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 10:19 AM
Actually Nietsche, Hegel, Marx, and Engel believed that..

Tom

ARMY STRONG!! This We'll Defend.

From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

So, you are saying that as a species we can never treat each other as we would like to be treated, with understanding, love
and respect?

I don't think this is what you mean, but it is coming off that way.

Why accept things as they are? Actually, new ideas are rarely accepted quickly. Of course the idea of racial equality
has been around for quite some time but it is clear not everyone has gotten the memo!

You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature? Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten. They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together. My son
is white and the first friend was black. My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy. He simply
enjoyed his company.




From: Jimmy Jumshade <jimmybug@rocketmail.com>
To: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>; phayes9402@comcast.net; Judy Hayner <edpals2@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 11:09:36 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 8:43 AM
Claudette, Patty seems to have focused an unimportant aspect of your note, which made an excellent point about
the fear behind the rationalization of racism.

And while I'm sure she didn't intend this, her comment enabled Predator then to put down the French ...

Another on this list has decried blocking the racist component on this list as censorship and against
freedom of speech.

If I have learned one thing by being on this list, it is that arguing with people only polarizes their positions. It does not change anyone's mind.

I suspect those who deny the majority of people on earth their humanity will only be cheered if they upset us.

I do not feel it is my duty to provide them with a forum for their fear and hatreds.

I agree with you there is no point in attempting discussion with them, and I take them off the list every time I send an
e-mail.

If the rest of you wish to argue with them and give their positions credibility, that is your right.




From: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:25:02 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Patty, what did I ever do to you to make you hate me so much? You seem to have this need to challenge everything I write. This one is just silly.

Claudette is a French name. http://www.behindthename.com/name/claudette

CLAUDETTE
Gender: Feminine
Usage: French
Pronounced: klo-DET [key]
French feminine form of CLAUDIUS

Konola is a very common Finnish Name. In fact if you google "Konola" you will find that most of the information that comes up is about a Finnish racing team, a well known Finnish artist, and an Nokia executive-in Finland.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBR_enUS274US274&q=Konola


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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

I'm curious as to how someone could tell that Claudette Konola is of French and Finnish descent. Maybe I'm just missing something but it doesn't appear that obvious to me.

Patty
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Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2009 9:21:57 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you, and your E-mails are going into my junk mail box where they are automatically deleted so long as you continue to send them. You are trying to look rational, but to me you are scared shitless that you may have to share power with people of color. By the way, you should be able to see from my name that my ethnic background is French and Finnish. I am a white woman who hopes there are no other white women willing to breed with the likes of you.

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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

So - you have great hostility toward White People - right?

Nobody else ever does bad - it's just white people

You probably applaude when black power raises it's ugly fist as they did in washington state lately and killed some police officers - and when laraza trys to take over America and even they murder black people in the LA area (have you heard?)

Did you hear about the blacks that broke into a wichita home and after forcing the white women to do all kinds of things for them and to each other - almost all of the white people there were killed. Of course that's okay too - right?

I used to know a guy named grant bruer - he said and correctly that blacks are a very basic people and are wired for the congo. He said they couldn't change that if htey wanted to and I believe he was right. Living in a refined decent society is beyond them.

John Hansen

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Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Lordy.
Third world citizens have no value, they can't buy our goods. . .
The rest of the sentence doesn't say much, but that part says a big mouthful. Talk about a prejudice-- there's one in spades. And don't try to pin it on Predator as "his" prejudice-- he didn't make that up. All he did is give voice to one of our economic/cultural assumptions.

You could say our attitude has improved a little bit in recent years, though. Now we think they have at least a little bit of value-- as cheap labor..
Regards,
Al J
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Sent: Fri, Dec 4, 2009 10:13 am
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In a message dated 12/4/2009 8:35:56 AM Central Standard Time, vivaveridad@yahoo.ca writes:
Why is one American child more valuable than 450 -750 third world children?
Third world citizens have no value, they can't buy our goods, they are on the global dole, and what have they ever contributed to any society?




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Xenophobia lives on. . .

My brother, sisters, and myself all played with children of the so-called "other races", and (oh dear!) eventually dated them besides. And wonder of wonders, none of us ended up dead, beaten or pregnant, nor in any unusual danger of it. Matter of fact we had a really good time.
Al J





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From: John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Sun, Dec 6, 2009 11:22 pm
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


I wouldn't let a kid of mine do anything with one of the other races - the next think you know if he is male he will be DEAD and if femail beaten and pregnant.

To put them in that kind of danger is child abuse.
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Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 12:10 AM
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<<<You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature? Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten. They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together. My son
is white and the first friend was black. My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy. He simply
enjoyed his company. >>>



Actually, "racism" was created by jews, not nature.

Do you know why the word is not in Scripture. There WAS no such concept in the entire Holy Bible, and in fact God punished Solomon severely for NOT being a racist, when he married the Egyptian daughter of the pharaoh:

And King Solomon loved many foreign [nikro, Strong's #5237] women, even the daughter of Pharaoh, Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians, Hittites; 1 Kings 11:1
Did not Solomon king of Israel sin by these things? yet among many nations was there no king like him, and he was beloved of his God, and God made him king over all Israel: nevertheless even him did foreign [nikro, Strong's #5237] women cause to sin. Nehemiah 13:26-27
http://fathersmanifesto.net/sin.htm

Do you know why it's not in the Declaration of Independence or the US Constitution? Because the word "racism" wasn't even coined until a century and a half after it was ratified, and even then it meant something the exact opposite of the way you're using it (it was equated to being a nationalist, or patriot, not necessarily bad traits).

There are more definitions of this word than there are people in the US. To a jew in Russia, a racist is a Russian who claims that only descendants of the Rus are Russians, which jews in Russia know they are not. To a jew in "Israel", a racist is a jew from Russia who they claim are "Russians pretending to be jews". When these "Israelis" then come to the US, they consider a "racist" to be one who upholds EXISTING immigration laws. Thus, to NOT be a racist to them, you must be a criminal or an outlaw. To a nigger in Africa, a racist is an American nigger, but to an American nigger, a racist is a WHITE man who simply wants to associate only with his own.

Of course it's ok for jews, niggers, and Mexican to be racists--it's only us honkies who can't.

John Knight






From: "Mr. Dinga" <mrdinga@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 6:29 PM
To: "Judy Hayner" <edpals2@yahoo.com>, "Tom" <boldsaber@gmail.com>, "gary beauregard" <beau@gcbussu..com>, "Jimmy Jumshade" <jimmybug@rocketmail.com>, "Claudette Konola" <Konola@Bresnan.net>, phayes9402@comcast.net
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So you haven't seen much CHANGE? Do you still HOPE for it? I'd rather have a politician get elected and do nothing about our situation than one get elected on the premise of doing something but whom still never does. At least then I wouldn't feel blatantly lied to. It's not as if I'm not going to feel lied to anyway, but at least the situation could be KEPT AT BAY by not doing anything versus someone promising to FIX IT and then just adding more and more to it anyway.




From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:15 PM
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Thanks, Tom. It has been years since I read any Neitsche and found him dark back then. I really have not studied Marx.
I have knowledge of his theories, but have not found them to be realistic.

Tried reading Hegel once in college, had a crush on a boy who was crazy for him, but never found it my cup of tea.

What are the specifics of what Obama is doing that lead you to say we are in a totalitarian regime ?

I am concerned about several things that are going on with this administration, but the these things are continuations of what
was begun in the Bush administration.





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From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>

Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 11:36:46 AM
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Judy, Those 4 philosophers had an extremely negative outlook on mankind and particularly of what they considered the "ruling class'. They all believed, in various degrees and small personal deviations, that a man was shaped by his work but that pleasure and happiness were determined by that ruling class and that the proletariat (the workers) had no choice in determining happiness or good. If he who controlled the means of production decided that workers would be happiest in taking one bath a month, it became the rule. That's why Marx, for example, predicted a proletariat revolution as those of the lower class faced a life of disappointment and frustration and that the revolution is inevitable. The failure of their philosophy is in understanding that replacing a royalty or a "corporation" or a monarch with a totalitarian government is only replacing one "ruling class" for another. A fallacy which we see full bore in the present administration as well.

They definitely didn't espouse the golden rule, far from it, and the USSR under Stalin is the closest I can come to the fulfillment of their philosophy, (Of course, Obama is certainly in the running today), although in reality, the 1917 Revolution ONLY proved that even the proletariat, when successful in their revolt and becoming the ruling class themselves inflicted just as much pain and suffering on a new proletariat or those of their former class who were left behind. Of course, as I wrote in a different post, faith and hope are anathema to the existence of any totalitarian sutocracy, whatever flavor you choose.

Tom

ARMY STRONG!! This We'll Defend.

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"Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be."

Bear


From what some of the posters on this e-mail string are writing, it does seem you are correct, Bear.

I had been aware that people like that existed, but I rarely meet anyone like that.

I certainly have not talked to anyone before who espouses a white separatist viewpoint like some on this list do.

One of the reasons we chose to live where we live was because of the racial diversity.
And the area I live in has only become much more racially and ethnically diverse.

In addition to my son's first friend who was black, one of my daughter's pre-school pals was Muslim with a white dad
and a mom from Singapore (she was really interesting). Currently, each of my kids have a varied group of friends,
with daughter being close to a girl with Pakistani heritage, and my son with a boy whose family comes from India, and is
Hindu.

In my job, I see children and people from all over the world.
Everyone I work with treats them all with respect. If anyone is hating any of these children, they are certainly keeping it to themselves.

Also, Tom, what are you saying that Neitsche, Marx, Hegel and Engel believed? The Golden Rule? Or that we as a species will never follow the golden rule?

Many cultures have a version of the golden rule.. I had a poster once, it was decades old and it had all the
different versions printed on it. I put it on the refrigerator when my kids were little. Now there is an organization that
has done the same thing. It is just such a basic way of thinking that helps prevent problems from

And somehow, a crucial part of this discussion has been omitted, the part where JimmyJumshade spoke of racism as a natural defense mechanism created by nature, or something like that. It was his coment that I replied to.

Several passages in the New Testament quote Jesus of Nazareth espousing the golden rule, including the following:
Matthew 7:12
12Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Luke 6:31
31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
Luke 10:25-28
25And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 26He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? 27And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. 28And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
The passage in the book of Luke then continues with Jesus answering the question, "Who is my neighbor?", by telling the parable of the Good Samaritan, indicating that "your neighbour" means a total stranger, or someone that happens to be nearby. Jesus' teaching, however, goes beyond the negative formulation of not doing what one would not like done to themselves, to the positive formulation of actively doing good to another that, if the situations were reversed, one would desire that the other would do for them. This formulation, as indicated in the parable of the Good Samaritan, emphasises the needs for positive action that brings benefit to another, not simply restraining oneself from negative activities that hurt another. Taken as a rule of judgement, both formulations of the golden rule, the negative and positive, are equally applicable.[25]




From: gary beauregard <beau@gcbussu.com>
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 9:56:54 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be.

Bear

--- On Sun, 12/6/09, Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 10:19 AM
Actually Nietsche, Hegel, Marx, and Engel believed that..

Tom

ARMY STRONG!! This We'll Defend.

From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

So, you are saying that as a species we can never treat each other as we would like to be treated, with understanding, love
and respect?

I don't think this is what you mean, but it is coming off that way.

Why accept things as they are? Actually, new ideas are rarely accepted quickly. Of course the idea of racial equality
has been around for quite some time but it is clear not everyone has gotten the memo!

You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature? Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten. They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together. My son
is white and the first friend was black. My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy. He simply
enjoyed his company.




From: Jimmy Jumshade <jimmybug@rocketmail.com>
To: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>; phayes9402@comcast.net; Judy Hayner <edpals2@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 11:09:36 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 8:43 AM
Claudette, Patty seems to have focused an unimportant aspect of your note, which made an excellent point about
the fear behind the rationalization of racism.

And while I'm sure she didn't intend this, her comment enabled Predator then to put down the French ...

Another on this list has decried blocking the racist component on this list as censorship and against
freedom of speech.

If I have learned one thing by being on this list, it is that arguing with people only polarizes their positions. It does not change anyone's mind.

I suspect those who deny the majority of people on earth their humanity will only be cheered if they upset us.

I do not feel it is my duty to provide them with a forum for their fear and hatreds.

I agree with you there is no point in attempting discussion with them, and I take them off the list every time I send an
e-mail.

If the rest of you wish to argue with them and give their positions credibility, that is your right.




From: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:25:02 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Patty, what did I ever do to you to make you hate me so much? You seem to have this need to challenge everything I write. This one is just silly.

Claudette is a French name. http://www.behindthename.com/name/claudette

CLAUDETTE
Gender: Feminine
Usage: French
Pronounced: klo-DET [key]
French feminine form of CLAUDIUS

Konola is a very common Finnish Name. In fact if you google "Konola" you will find that most of the information that comes up is about a Finnish racing team, a well known Finnish artist, and an Nokia executive-in Finland.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBR_enUS274US274&q=Konola


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I'm curious as to how someone could tell that Claudette Konola is of French and Finnish descent. Maybe I'm just missing something but it doesn't appear that obvious to me.

Patty
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Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2009 9:21:57 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
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John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you, and your E-mails are going into my junk mail box where they are automatically deleted so long as you continue to send them. You are trying to look rational, but to me you are scared shitless that you may have to share power with people of color. By the way, you should be able to see from my name that my ethnic background is French and Finnish. I am a white woman who hopes there are no other white women willing to breed with the likes of you.

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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

So - you have great hostility toward White People - right?

Nobody else ever does bad - it's just white people

You probably applaude when black power raises it's ugly fist as they did in washington state lately and killed some police officers - and when laraza trys to take over America and even they murder black people in the LA area (have you heard?)

Did you hear about the blacks that broke into a wichita home and after forcing the white women to do all kinds of things for them and to each other - almost all of the white people there were killed. Of course that's okay too - right?

I used to know a guy named grant bruer - he said and correctly that blacks are a very basic people and are wired for the congo. He said they couldn't change that if htey wanted to and I believe he was right. Living in a refined decent society is beyond them.

John Hansen

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But might DOES make right in your neo-Nazi philosophy.

NOT IN MINE. In my philosophy, all people are created equal by God, and as the Bible says, heaven will be fileld with people "from every tribe from every tongue from every people from every nation."

BUT YOUR RACE-BASED PHILOSOPHY is specifically based on Darwinism.

The Nazi Party's racial policies and thinking was ENTIRELY Darwinism. THe idea of a Master race, of inferior races, of racial purity, WAS ALL DARWINISM APPLIED.

So according to YOUR beliefs (not mine) MIGHT DOES MAKE RIGHT. THAT IS WHAT NAZIS BELIEVED. If you have the power to take something, then you have a right to it.

The Germans had a right to take over territory siply because they could.

The Germans were destined to rule the Earth simply because they could.

The historical imperative favored the strong.

SO WHEN ANTI-SEMITES LIE AND SAY THAT JEWS CONTROL EVERYTHING, THEY ARE DECLARING THAT THE JEWS ARE THE MASTER RACE and that the historical imperative is for Jews to take over the Earth and all other racs to -- in a Darwinian sense -- fade away.

That's now that I believe.

But that is what you are saying everytie you spread conspiracy theories that the jews control everything.

Jack Stone




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They are pretty much in control of everything and wanting it all.

>Sounds like, to hear you tell it, the Jews are simply superior human beings to others.

No - might doesn't make right - charles manson wasn't superior he was the most ruthless.

Jews are the most crooked and the ethnocentricism gives them an advatage over others and they use it.

That's why they won't give their full allegiance to America - they are loyal only to other jews.

As for the germans / jews - I don't know much about that.

White People are no inferior to anyone - their biggest fault is being too kind, generous and tolerant.

But, we're learning.

John Hansen

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----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Stone
To: John Hansen
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Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?




But according to you, the Jews are rich and in control of everything.

So nothing is holding the Jews back, is it?

Sounds like, to hear you tell it, the Jews are simply superior human beings to others.

Clearly the Jews are superior to all Germans .... at least to hear you tell the story.

You claim that the Germans were defeated by Jews in WW1 and WW2, that Churchill, Eisenhower and Roosevelt were all Jews, and Stalin as well.

So according to you, the Jews whupped the Germans butts twice in a row.

Clearly to follow the Nazi doctrine based on Darwin of the suprerior race dominanting, you should commit suicide because YOU are the inferior race. Accordign to YOUR Darwinist Nazi doctrine the Jews SHOULD (ought to) crowd out all other people and all other people should be extinct.

According to MY belief, by contrast, God died for all of humanity and race is irrelevant.


Jack Stone


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Fixation on being a victim prevents Blacks and neo-Nazis alike from taking responsibility for their own lives and establishing a viable and workable, functioning society in their community.

That applies to the jews who spout victimhood at every opportunity.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Stone
To: John Hansen
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Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?




It is not racism to cite facts.

It may be motivated by racism to invent false facts and/or misrepresent them.

It is also racist to leap the unwarranted conclusion that the facts are explaiend by skin color rather than CULTURE.

There is no doubt that the culture which has come to be normal and accepted among SOME (perhaps most) Black communities -- AND ALSO AMONG MANY WHITE COMMUNITIES -- accepts as "normal" a lifestyle that is immoral and dysfunctional.

Fixation on being a victim prevents Blacks and neo-Nazis alike from taking responsibility for their own lives and establishing a viable and workable, functioning society in their community.

This is the same lifestyle and system of amorality that liberals are trying desperately to instill into ALL of American society.

And indeed it is the same culture of immorality and victimhood that prevails among Germans (Teutons) and neo-Nazis. The SAME irresponsibility and fixation on being a victim is at work among the neo-Nazis as with many Black cultures.

This is the belief system that the liberals are tying to make all of American society live by. It will be as destructive to all of society as it has been in the post-slavery Black community.

Jack Stone



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IT's not wonder we are down on those violent other races.

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Explain this timmy. WHY are you animals so much more likely to
attack a white man? WHY are your own people having sex with 12 yr old
girls who have 5 litters by the time they're 18??

http://amren.com/
http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.pdf

Major Findings
• Police and the justice system are not biased against minorities.
Crime Rates
• Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to
commit murder,
and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
• When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times
more likely
than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a
knife.
• Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white
rate, and
Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate...
• The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the
percentage of
the population that is black and Hispanic.
Interracial Crime
• Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every
year involving
blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15
percent.
• Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against
blacks. Fortyfive
percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10
percent are
Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of
their victims are
black.
• Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent
crime against
a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
• Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated
hate crimes
against whites than vice versa.
Gangs
• Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
• Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of
youth gangs.
Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more
likely.
Incarceration
• Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled,
from 139
to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from
320,000 to 1.39
million.
• Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites.
Hispanics are
three times more likely.



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Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:45 AM
Subject: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


John Hanson asked simply:

"So - you have great hostility toward White People - right?"

An obvious racist known on the net as "Claudette Konola" whined, and thus begun a whole flurry of self-hating email:

"John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you [ad infinitum]... "

It's a simple question. And while you think you didn't answer it, Claudette, we know from your response that you DO HATE White people just as John surmised.

Now here's another question. What exactly is it about the US Constitution which makes you muds think YOU have a right to free speech that us WHITES do not have? Why can YOU hurl such insults, and we can't even ask a simple question of you? Why do you HATE simple discussions about race so much. I'd really like to know.

John Knight






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Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 9:15 AM
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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


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I don't agree with everything, or most things that Predator writes.....but I know him and I know that he writes the things he does to get the reaction you and Claudette are displaying......in other words you gave him what he wants. If someone wants to block someone why do they feel the need to make a big deal about it as if the blockee is going to have an emotional breakdown and have their lives ruined? It's just not that important to most people......if a friend said I'm going to block you I would care but someone you don't even know!

Patty
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From: "Judy Hayner" <edpals2@yahoo.com>

To: "Claudette Konola" <Konola@Bresnan.net>, phayes9402@comcast.net
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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


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Claudette, Patty seems to have focused an unimportant aspect of your note, which made an excellent point about
the fear behind the rationalization of racism.


And while I'm sure she didn't intend this, her comment enabled Predator then to put down the French ...


Another on this list has decried blocking the racist component on this list as censorship and against
freedom of speech.


If I have learned one thing by being on this list, it is that arguing with people only polarizes their positions. It does not change anyone's mind.


I suspect those who deny the majority of people on earth their humanity will only be cheered if they upset us.


I do not feel it is my duty to provide them with a forum for their fear and hatreds.


I agree with you there is no point in attempting discussion with them, and I take them off the list every time I send an
e-mail.


If the rest of you wish to argue with them and give their positions credibility, that is your right.


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From: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:25:02 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


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Patty, what did I ever do to you to make you hate me so much? You seem to have this need to challenge everything I write. This one is just silly.

Claudette is a French name. http://www.behindthename.com/name/claudette

CLAUDETTE
Gender: Feminine
Usage: French
Pronounced: klo-DET [key]
French feminine form of CLAUDIUS

Konola is a very common Finnish Name. In fact if you google “Konola” you will find that most of the information that comes up is about a Finnish racing team, a well known Finnish artist, and an Nokia executive—in Finland.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBR_enUS274US274&q=Konola


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I'm curious as to how someone could tell that Claudette Konola is of French and Finnish descent. Maybe I'm just missing something but it doesn't appear that obvious to me.

Patty
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Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2009 9:21:57 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
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John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you, and your E-mails are going into my junk mail box where they are automatically deleted so long as you continue to send them. You are trying to look rational, but to me you are scared shitless that you may have to share power with people of color. By the way, you should be able to see from my name that my ethnic background is French and Finnish. I am a white woman who hopes there are no other white women willing to breed with the likes of you.

From: John Hansen [mailto:majorhart@sbcglobal.net]

Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:38 PM

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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

So - you have great hostility toward White People - right?

Nobody else ever does bad - it's just white people

You probably applaude when black power raises it's ugly fist as they did in washington state lately and killed some police officers - and when laraza trys to take over America and even they murder black people in the LA area (have you heard?)

Did you hear about the blacks that broke into a wichita home and after forcing the white women to do all kinds of things for them and to each other - almost all of the white people there were killed. Of course that's okay too - right?

I used to know a guy named grant bruer - he said and correctly that blacks are a very basic people and are wired for the congo. He said they couldn't change that if htey wanted to and I believe he was right. Living in a refined decent society is beyond them.

John Hansen

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Lordy.
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NEGRO Suspects ID'd in Garland County Shootout, Murder

Reported by: KARK 4 News
Friday, Nov 20, 2009 @03:20pm CST
http://arkansasmatters.com/content/news/fulltext/?cid=272692

(Garland County, AR) The Garland County Sheriff's Department has wrapped up a short news conference this afternoon to brief the media on details about a shootout Thursday night and to release information about the three suspects in five murders.

Deputies say one of them, Marvin Stringer, 22, was killed in the barrage of gunfire in Hot Springs.

They also revealed that only one officer suffered a gunshot wound, and not two as first thought.

Deputy Jason Lawrence is in serious but stable condition this afternoon. The other deputy, Felix Hunter, needed treatment for a "medical issue" after the shootout, and was released a short time later.



Two other suspects are charged in the case. Jeremy Pickney, 23, and Samuel Conway, 23, are both in jail on no bond. They are charged with capital murder, aggravated residential burglary and arson for the deaths of five people in the small town of Pearcy on November 12. All five had been shot, and the home where four were found had been burned to the ground.

Stringer died in Thursday night's shootout at the National Park Inn in Hot Springs after deputies say Stringer opened fire as officers arrived with a warrant. Conway and Pickney were arrested later.



Arkansas State Police, Hot Springs Police, the F..B.I., and the U.S. Marshal's Service assisted with the investigation.

In the Pearcy killings, the remains of four of the victims were found inside their burned home on Old Airport Road just down the street from the Lake Hamilton school. The fifth victim was found inside his home located nearby on the same property. [See photos below].

A truck registered to the victims' address was found on fire miles away in Hot Springs, minutes before the house fire was reported.

Also at today's news conference, the Sheriff's Office revealed that a gag order was in place over the case and that no further details would be released.

Only one other bit of information was given regarding property stolen during the burglary in Pearcy. The Sheriff's Office asks anyone with information about that property to call them at (501) 622-3690 or the anonymous tips line at (501) 622-3674.

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Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 2:35 AM
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Xenophobia lives on. . .

My brother, sisters, and myself all played with children of the so-called "other races", and (oh dear!) eventually dated them besides. And wonder of wonders, none of us ended up dead, beaten or pregnant, nor in any unusual danger of it. Matter of fact we had a really good time.
Al J





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From: John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Sun, Dec 6, 2009 11:22 pm
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


I wouldn't let a kid of mine do anything with one of the other races - the next think you know if he is male he will be DEAD and if femail beaten and pregnant.

To put them in that kind of danger is child abuse.
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From: Jacob Israel
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 12:10 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


<<<You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature? Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten. They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together. My son
is white and the first friend was black. My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy. He simply
enjoyed his company. >>>



Actually, "racism" was created by jews, not nature.

Do you know why the word is not in Scripture. There WAS no such concept in the entire Holy Bible, and in fact God punished Solomon severely for NOT being a racist, when he married the Egyptian daughter of the pharaoh:

And King Solomon loved many foreign [nikro, Strong's #5237] women, even the daughter of Pharaoh, Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians, Hittites; 1 Kings 11:1
Did not Solomon king of Israel sin by these things? yet among many nations was there no king like him, and he was beloved of his God, and God made him king over all Israel: nevertheless even him did foreign [nikro, Strong's #5237] women cause to sin. Nehemiah 13:26-27
http://fathersmanifesto.net/sin.htm

Do you know why it's not in the Declaration of Independence or the US Constitution? Because the word "racism" wasn't even coined until a century and a half after it was ratified, and even then it meant something the exact opposite of the way you're using it (it was equated to being a nationalist, or patriot, not necessarily bad traits).

There are more definitions of this word than there are people in the US. To a jew in Russia, a racist is a Russian who claims that only descendants of the Rus are Russians, which jews in Russia know they are not. To a jew in "Israel", a racist is a jew from Russia who they claim are "Russians pretending to be jews". When these "Israelis" then come to the US, they consider a "racist" to be one who upholds EXISTING immigration laws. Thus, to NOT be a racist to them, you must be a criminal or an outlaw. To a nigger in Africa, a racist is an American nigger, but to an American nigger, a racist is a WHITE man who simply wants to associate only with his own.

Of course it's ok for jews, niggers, and Mexican to be racists--it's only us honkies who can't.

John Knight






From: "Mr. Dinga" <mrdinga@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 6:29 PM
To: "Judy Hayner" <edpals2@yahoo.com>, "Tom" <boldsaber@gmail.com>, "gary beauregard" <beau@gcbussu..com>, "Jimmy Jumshade" <jimmybug@rocketmail.com>, "Claudette Konola" <Konola@Bresnan.net>, phayes9402@comcast.net
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


So you haven't seen much CHANGE? Do you still HOPE for it? I'd rather have a politician get elected and do nothing about our situation than one get elected on the premise of doing something but whom still never does. At least then I wouldn't feel blatantly lied to. It's not as if I'm not going to feel lied to anyway, but at least the situation could be KEPT AT BAY by not doing anything versus someone promising to FIX IT and then just adding more and more to it anyway.




From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Thanks, Tom. It has been years since I read any Neitsche and found him dark back then. I really have not studied Marx.
I have knowledge of his theories, but have not found them to be realistic.

Tried reading Hegel once in college, had a crush on a boy who was crazy for him, but never found it my cup of tea.

What are the specifics of what Obama is doing that lead you to say we are in a totalitarian regime ?

I am concerned about several things that are going on with this administration, but the these things are continuations of what
was begun in the Bush administration.








From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>

Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 11:36:46 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Judy, Those 4 philosophers had an extremely negative outlook on mankind and particularly of what they considered the "ruling class'. They all believed, in various degrees and small personal deviations, that a man was shaped by his work but that pleasure and happiness were determined by that ruling class and that the proletariat (the workers) had no choice in determining happiness or good. If he who controlled the means of production decided that workers would be happiest in taking one bath a month, it became the rule. That's why Marx, for example, predicted a proletariat revolution as those of the lower class faced a life of disappointment and frustration and that the revolution is inevitable. The failure of their philosophy is in understanding that replacing a royalty or a "corporation" or a monarch with a totalitarian government is only replacing one "ruling class" for another. A fallacy which we see full bore in the present administration as well.

They definitely didn't espouse the golden rule, far from it, and the USSR under Stalin is the closest I can come to the fulfillment of their philosophy, (Of course, Obama is certainly in the running today), although in reality, the 1917 Revolution ONLY proved that even the proletariat, when successful in their revolt and becoming the ruling class themselves inflicted just as much pain and suffering on a new proletariat or those of their former class who were left behind. Of course, as I wrote in a different post, faith and hope are anathema to the existence of any totalitarian sutocracy, whatever flavor you choose.

Tom

ARMY STRONG!! This We'll Defend.

From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


"Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be."

Bear


From what some of the posters on this e-mail string are writing, it does seem you are correct, Bear.

I had been aware that people like that existed, but I rarely meet anyone like that.

I certainly have not talked to anyone before who espouses a white separatist viewpoint like some on this list do.

One of the reasons we chose to live where we live was because of the racial diversity.
And the area I live in has only become much more racially and ethnically diverse.

In addition to my son's first friend who was black, one of my daughter's pre-school pals was Muslim with a white dad
and a mom from Singapore (she was really interesting). Currently, each of my kids have a varied group of friends,
with daughter being close to a girl with Pakistani heritage, and my son with a boy whose family comes from India, and is
Hindu.

In my job, I see children and people from all over the world.
Everyone I work with treats them all with respect. If anyone is hating any of these children, they are certainly keeping it to themselves.

Also, Tom, what are you saying that Neitsche, Marx, Hegel and Engel believed? The Golden Rule? Or that we as a species will never follow the golden rule?

Many cultures have a version of the golden rule.. I had a poster once, it was decades old and it had all the
different versions printed on it. I put it on the refrigerator when my kids were little. Now there is an organization that
has done the same thing. It is just such a basic way of thinking that helps prevent problems from

And somehow, a crucial part of this discussion has been omitted, the part where JimmyJumshade spoke of racism as a natural defense mechanism created by nature, or something like that. It was his coment that I replied to.

Several passages in the New Testament quote Jesus of Nazareth espousing the golden rule, including the following:
Matthew 7:12
12Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Luke 6:31
31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
Luke 10:25-28
25And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 26He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? 27And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. 28And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
The passage in the book of Luke then continues with Jesus answering the question, "Who is my neighbor?", by telling the parable of the Good Samaritan, indicating that "your neighbour" means a total stranger, or someone that happens to be nearby. Jesus' teaching, however, goes beyond the negative formulation of not doing what one would not like done to themselves, to the positive formulation of actively doing good to another that, if the situations were reversed, one would desire that the other would do for them. This formulation, as indicated in the parable of the Good Samaritan, emphasises the needs for positive action that brings benefit to another, not simply restraining oneself from negative activities that hurt another. Taken as a rule of judgement, both formulations of the golden rule, the negative and positive, are equally applicable.[25]




From: gary beauregard <beau@gcbussu.com>
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 9:56:54 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be.

Bear

--- On Sun, 12/6/09, Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 10:19 AM
Actually Nietsche, Hegel, Marx, and Engel believed that..

Tom

ARMY STRONG!! This We'll Defend.

From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

So, you are saying that as a species we can never treat each other as we would like to be treated, with understanding, love
and respect?

I don't think this is what you mean, but it is coming off that way.

Why accept things as they are? Actually, new ideas are rarely accepted quickly. Of course the idea of racial equality
has been around for quite some time but it is clear not everyone has gotten the memo!

You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature? Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten. They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together. My son
is white and the first friend was black. My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy. He simply
enjoyed his company.




From: Jimmy Jumshade <jimmybug@rocketmail..com>
To: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>; phayes9402@comcast.net; Judy Hayner <edpals2@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 11:09:36 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 8:43 AM
Claudette, Patty seems to have focused an unimportant aspect of your note, which made an excellent point about
the fear behind the rationalization of racism.

And while I'm sure she didn't intend this, her comment enabled Predator then to put down the French ...

Another on this list has decried blocking the racist component on this list as censorship and against
freedom of speech.

If I have learned one thing by being on this list, it is that arguing with people only polarizes their positions. It does not change anyone's mind.

I suspect those who deny the majority of people on earth their humanity will only be cheered if they upset us.

I do not feel it is my duty to provide them with a forum for their fear and hatreds.

I agree with you there is no point in attempting discussion with them, and I take them off the list every time I send an
e-mail.

If the rest of you wish to argue with them and give their positions credibility, that is your right.




From: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:25:02 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Patty, what did I ever do to you to make you hate me so much? You seem to have this need to challenge everything I write. This one is just silly.

Claudette is a French name. http://www.behindthename.com/name/claudette

CLAUDETTE
Gender: Feminine
Usage: French
Pronounced: klo-DET [key]
French feminine form of CLAUDIUS

Konola is a very common Finnish Name. In fact if you google "Konola" you will find that most of the information that comes up is about a Finnish racing team, a well known Finnish artist, and an Nokia executive-in Finland.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBR_enUS274US274&q=Konola


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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

I'm curious as to how someone could tell that Claudette Konola is of French and Finnish descent. Maybe I'm just missing something but it doesn't appear that obvious to me.

Patty
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Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you, and your E-mails are going into my junk mail box where they are automatically deleted so long as you continue to send them. You are trying to look rational, but to me you are scared shitless that you may have to share power with people of color. By the way, you should be able to see from my name that my ethnic background is French and Finnish. I am a white woman who hopes there are no other white women willing to breed with the likes of you.


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Tell that to the jews that are butchering the Palestinians.

Tell them might does not make right.

Tell the iraqis and soon the Iranians, now the afghans and pakistanis that are under attack by the USA under Israel's orders.

Tell them that.

And I have nothing against the other races as long as they don't invade MY country, take my jobs, homes or my life or force themselves and their widely differing way of life on me.

And as long as they don't overpopulate the earth and swarm over everywhere.

But they do.
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Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?



But might DOES make right in your neo-Nazi philosophy.

NOT IN MINE. In my philosophy, all people are created equal by God, and as the Bible says, heaven will be fileld with people "from every tribe from every tongue from every people from every nation."

BUT YOUR RACE-BASED PHILOSOPHY is specifically based on Darwinism.

The Nazi Party's racial policies and thinking was ENTIRELY Darwinism. THe idea of a Master race, of inferior races, of racial purity, WAS ALL DARWINISM APPLIED.

So according to YOUR beliefs (not mine) MIGHT DOES MAKE RIGHT. THAT IS WHAT NAZIS BELIEVED. If you have the power to take something, then you have a right to it.

The Germans had a right to take over territory siply because they could.

The Germans were destined to rule the Earth simply because they could.

The historical imperative favored the strong.

SO WHEN ANTI-SEMITES LIE AND SAY THAT JEWS CONTROL EVERYTHING, THEY ARE DECLARING THAT THE JEWS ARE THE MASTER RACE and that the historical imperative is for Jews to take over the Earth and all other racs to -- in a Darwinian sense -- fade away.

That's now that I believe.

But that is what you are saying everytie you spread conspiracy theories that the jews control everything.

Jack Stone




On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:48 AM, John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

They are pretty much in control of everything and wanting it all.

>Sounds like, to hear you tell it, the Jews are simply superior human beings to others.

No - might doesn't make right - charles manson wasn't superior he was the most ruthless.

Jews are the most crooked and the ethnocentricism gives them an advatage over others and they use it.

That's why they won't give their full allegiance to America - they are loyal only to other jews.

As for the germans / jews - I don't know much about that.

White People are no inferior to anyone - their biggest fault is being too kind, generous and tolerant.

But, we're learning.

John Hansen

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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?




But according to you, the Jews are rich and in control of everything.

So nothing is holding the Jews back, is it?

Sounds like, to hear you tell it, the Jews are simply superior human beings to others.

Clearly the Jews are superior to all Germans .... at least to hear you tell the story.

You claim that the Germans were defeated by Jews in WW1 and WW2, that Churchill, Eisenhower and Roosevelt were all Jews, and Stalin as well.

So according to you, the Jews whupped the Germans butts twice in a row.

Clearly to follow the Nazi doctrine based on Darwin of the suprerior race dominanting, you should commit suicide because YOU are the inferior race. Accordign to YOUR Darwinist Nazi doctrine the Jews SHOULD (ought to) crowd out all other people and all other people should be extinct.

According to MY belief, by contrast, God died for all of humanity and race is irrelevant.


Jack Stone


On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 4:04 PM, John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
Fixation on being a victim prevents Blacks and neo-Nazis alike from taking responsibility for their own lives and establishing a viable and workable, functioning society in their community.

That applies to the jews who spout victimhood at every opportunity.
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Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?




It is not racism to cite facts.

It may be motivated by racism to invent false facts and/or misrepresent them.

It is also racist to leap the unwarranted conclusion that the facts are explaiend by skin color rather than CULTURE.

There is no doubt that the culture which has come to be normal and accepted among SOME (perhaps most) Black communities -- AND ALSO AMONG MANY WHITE COMMUNITIES -- accepts as "normal" a lifestyle that is immoral and dysfunctional.

Fixation on being a victim prevents Blacks and neo-Nazis alike from taking responsibility for their own lives and establishing a viable and workable, functioning society in their community.

This is the same lifestyle and system of amorality that liberals are trying desperately to instill into ALL of American society.

And indeed it is the same culture of immorality and victimhood that prevails among Germans (Teutons) and neo-Nazis. The SAME irresponsibility and fixation on being a victim is at work among the neo-Nazis as with many Black cultures.

This is the belief system that the liberals are tying to make all of American society live by. It will be as destructive to all of society as it has been in the post-slavery Black community.

Jack Stone



On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 9:03 AM, John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

IT's not wonder we are down on those violent other races.

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Explain this timmy. WHY are you animals so much more likely to
attack a white man? WHY are your own people having sex with 12 yr old
girls who have 5 litters by the time they're 18??

http://amren.com/
http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.pdf

Major Findings
• Police and the justice system are not biased against minorities.
Crime Rates
• Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to
commit murder,
and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
• When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times
more likely
than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a
knife.
• Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white
rate, and
Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate....
• The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the
percentage of
the population that is black and Hispanic.
Interracial Crime
• Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every
year involving
blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15
percent.
• Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against
blacks. Fortyfive
percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10
percent are
Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of
their victims are
black.
• Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent
crime against
a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
• Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated
hate crimes
against whites than vice versa.
Gangs
• Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
• Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of
youth gangs.
Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more
likely.
Incarceration
• Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled,
from 139
to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from
320,000 to 1.39
million.
• Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites.
Hispanics are
three times more likely.



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From: Jacob Israel
To: phayes9402@comcast.net ; Judy Hayner
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Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:45 AM
Subject: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


John Hanson asked simply:

"So - you have great hostility toward White People - right?"

An obvious racist known on the net as "Claudette Konola" whined, and thus begun a whole flurry of self-hating email:

"John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you [ad infinitum]... "

It's a simple question. And while you think you didn't answer it, Claudette, we know from your response that you DO HATE White people just as John surmised.

Now here's another question. What exactly is it about the US Constitution which makes you muds think YOU have a right to free speech that us WHITES do not have? Why can YOU hurl such insults, and we can't even ask a simple question of you? Why do you HATE simple discussions about race so much. I'd really like to know.

John Knight






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Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 9:15 AM
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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


I don't agree with everything, or most things that Predator writes......but I know him and I know that he writes the things he does to get the reaction you and Claudette are displaying......in other words you gave him what he wants. If someone wants to block someone why do they feel the need to make a big deal about it as if the blockee is going to have an emotional breakdown and have their lives ruined? It's just not that important to most people......if a friend said I'm going to block you I would care but someone you don't even know!

Patty
----- Original Message -----
From: "Judy Hayner" <edpals2@yahoo.com>

To: "Claudette Konola" <Konola@Bresnan.net>, phayes9402@comcast.net
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Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2009 11:43:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


Claudette, Patty seems to have focused an unimportant aspect of your note, which made an excellent point about
the fear behind the rationalization of racism.


And while I'm sure she didn't intend this, her comment enabled Predator then to put down the French ....


Another on this list has decried blocking the racist component on this list as censorship and against
freedom of speech.


If I have learned one thing by being on this list, it is that arguing with people only polarizes their positions. It does not change anyone's mind.


I suspect those who deny the majority of people on earth their humanity will only be cheered if they upset us.


I do not feel it is my duty to provide them with a forum for their fear and hatreds.


I agree with you there is no point in attempting discussion with them, and I take them off the list every time I send an
e-mail.


If the rest of you wish to argue with them and give their positions credibility, that is your right.




From: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:25:02 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


Patty, what did I ever do to you to make you hate me so much? You seem to have this need to challenge everything I write. This one is just silly.

Claudette is a French name. http://www.behindthename.com/name/claudette

CLAUDETTE
Gender: Feminine
Usage: French
Pronounced: klo-DET [key]
French feminine form of CLAUDIUS

Konola is a very common Finnish Name. In fact if you google “Konola” you will find that most of the information that comes up is about a Finnish racing team, a well known Finnish artist, and an Nokia executive—in Finland.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBR_enUS274US274&q=Konola


From: phayes9402@comcast.net [mailto:phayes9402@comcast.net]

Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 8:03 AM

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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

I'm curious as to how someone could tell that Claudette Konola is of French and Finnish descent. Maybe I'm just missing something but it doesn't appear that obvious to me.

Patty
----- Original Message -----
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You forgot to mention the ADL, SPLC, ACLU, AIPAC, JDL, -TELL THEM MIGHT DOES NOT MAKE RIGHT.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Stone
To: John Hansen
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Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?



But might DOES make right in your neo-Nazi philosophy.

NOT IN MINE. In my philosophy, all people are created equal by God, and as the Bible says, heaven will be fileld with people "from every tribe from every tongue from every people from every nation."

BUT YOUR RACE-BASED PHILOSOPHY is specifically based on Darwinism.

The Nazi Party's racial policies and thinking was ENTIRELY Darwinism. THe idea of a Master race, of inferior races, of racial purity, WAS ALL DARWINISM APPLIED.

So according to YOUR beliefs (not mine) MIGHT DOES MAKE RIGHT. THAT IS WHAT NAZIS BELIEVED. If you have the power to take something, then you have a right to it.

The Germans had a right to take over territory siply because they could.

The Germans were destined to rule the Earth simply because they could.

The historical imperative favored the strong.

SO WHEN ANTI-SEMITES LIE AND SAY THAT JEWS CONTROL EVERYTHING, THEY ARE DECLARING THAT THE JEWS ARE THE MASTER RACE and that the historical imperative is for Jews to take over the Earth and all other racs to -- in a Darwinian sense -- fade away.

That's now that I believe.

But that is what you are saying everytie you spread conspiracy theories that the jews control everything.

Jack Stone




On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:48 AM, John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

They are pretty much in control of everything and wanting it all.

>Sounds like, to hear you tell it, the Jews are simply superior human beings to others.

No - might doesn't make right - charles manson wasn't superior he was the most ruthless.

Jews are the most crooked and the ethnocentricism gives them an advatage over others and they use it.

That's why they won't give their full allegiance to America - they are loyal only to other jews.

As for the germans / jews - I don't know much about that.

White People are no inferior to anyone - their biggest fault is being too kind, generous and tolerant.

But, we're learning.

John Hansen

----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Stone
To: John Hansen
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Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?




But according to you, the Jews are rich and in control of everything.

So nothing is holding the Jews back, is it?

Sounds like, to hear you tell it, the Jews are simply superior human beings to others.

Clearly the Jews are superior to all Germans .... at least to hear you tell the story.

You claim that the Germans were defeated by Jews in WW1 and WW2, that Churchill, Eisenhower and Roosevelt were all Jews, and Stalin as well.

So according to you, the Jews whupped the Germans butts twice in a row.

Clearly to follow the Nazi doctrine based on Darwin of the suprerior race dominanting, you should commit suicide because YOU are the inferior race. Accordign to YOUR Darwinist Nazi doctrine the Jews SHOULD (ought to) crowd out all other people and all other people should be extinct.

According to MY belief, by contrast, God died for all of humanity and race is irrelevant.


Jack Stone


On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 4:04 PM, John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
Fixation on being a victim prevents Blacks and neo-Nazis alike from taking responsibility for their own lives and establishing a viable and workable, functioning society in their community.

That applies to the jews who spout victimhood at every opportunity.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Stone
To: John Hansen
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Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?




It is not racism to cite facts.

It may be motivated by racism to invent false facts and/or misrepresent them.

It is also racist to leap the unwarranted conclusion that the facts are explaiend by skin color rather than CULTURE.

There is no doubt that the culture which has come to be normal and accepted among SOME (perhaps most) Black communities -- AND ALSO AMONG MANY WHITE COMMUNITIES -- accepts as "normal" a lifestyle that is immoral and dysfunctional.

Fixation on being a victim prevents Blacks and neo-Nazis alike from taking responsibility for their own lives and establishing a viable and workable, functioning society in their community.

This is the same lifestyle and system of amorality that liberals are trying desperately to instill into ALL of American society.

And indeed it is the same culture of immorality and victimhood that prevails among Germans (Teutons) and neo-Nazis. The SAME irresponsibility and fixation on being a victim is at work among the neo-Nazis as with many Black cultures.

This is the belief system that the liberals are tying to make all of American society live by. It will be as destructive to all of society as it has been in the post-slavery Black community.

Jack Stone



On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 9:03 AM, John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

IT's not wonder we are down on those violent other races.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Explain this timmy. WHY are you animals so much more likely to
attack a white man? WHY are your own people having sex with 12 yr old
girls who have 5 litters by the time they're 18??

http://amren.com/
http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.pdf

Major Findings
• Police and the justice system are not biased against minorities.
Crime Rates
• Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to
commit murder,
and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
• When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times
more likely
than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a
knife.
• Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white
rate, and
Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate....
• The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the
percentage of
the population that is black and Hispanic.
Interracial Crime
• Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every
year involving
blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15
percent.
• Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against
blacks. Fortyfive
percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10
percent are
Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of
their victims are
black.
• Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent
crime against
a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
• Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated
hate crimes
against whites than vice versa.
Gangs
• Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
• Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of
youth gangs.
Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more
likely.
Incarceration
• Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled,
from 139
to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from
320,000 to 1.39
million.
• Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites.
Hispanics are
three times more likely.



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From: Jacob Israel
To: phayes9402@comcast.net ; Judy Hayner
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Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:45 AM
Subject: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


John Hanson asked simply:

"So - you have great hostility toward White People - right?"

An obvious racist known on the net as "Claudette Konola" whined, and thus begun a whole flurry of self-hating email:

"John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you [ad infinitum]... "

It's a simple question. And while you think you didn't answer it, Claudette, we know from your response that you DO HATE White people just as John surmised.

Now here's another question. What exactly is it about the US Constitution which makes you muds think YOU have a right to free speech that us WHITES do not have? Why can YOU hurl such insults, and we can't even ask a simple question of you? Why do you HATE simple discussions about race so much. I'd really like to know.

John Knight






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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


I don't agree with everything, or most things that Predator writes......but I know him and I know that he writes the things he does to get the reaction you and Claudette are displaying......in other words you gave him what he wants. If someone wants to block someone why do they feel the need to make a big deal about it as if the blockee is going to have an emotional breakdown and have their lives ruined? It's just not that important to most people......if a friend said I'm going to block you I would care but someone you don't even know!

Patty
----- Original Message -----
From: "Judy Hayner" <edpals2@yahoo.com>

To: "Claudette Konola" <Konola@Bresnan.net>, phayes9402@comcast.net
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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


Claudette, Patty seems to have focused an unimportant aspect of your note, which made an excellent point about
the fear behind the rationalization of racism.


And while I'm sure she didn't intend this, her comment enabled Predator then to put down the French ....


Another on this list has decried blocking the racist component on this list as censorship and against
freedom of speech.


If I have learned one thing by being on this list, it is that arguing with people only polarizes their positions. It does not change anyone's mind.


I suspect those who deny the majority of people on earth their humanity will only be cheered if they upset us.


I do not feel it is my duty to provide them with a forum for their fear and hatreds.


I agree with you there is no point in attempting discussion with them, and I take them off the list every time I send an
e-mail.


If the rest of you wish to argue with them and give their positions credibility, that is your right.




From: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:25:02 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


Patty, what did I ever do to you to make you hate me so much? You seem to have this need to challenge everything I write. This one is just silly.

Claudette is a French name. http://www.behindthename.com/name/claudette

CLAUDETTE
Gender: Feminine
Usage: French
Pronounced: klo-DET [key]
French feminine form of CLAUDIUS

Konola is a very common Finnish Name. In fact if you google “Konola” you will find that most of the information that comes up is about a Finnish racing team, a well known Finnish artist, and an Nokia executive—in Finland.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBR_enUS274US274&q=Konola


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Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 8:03 AM

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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

I'm curious as to how someone could tell that Claudette Konola is of French and Finnish descent. Maybe I'm just missing something but it doesn't appear that obvious to me.

Patty
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If John Knight is writing an email, he is lying about what the Bible says.

It's a formula..... creating his own Bible by CHANGING the Bible.

Jacob (aka ISRAEL)'s favorite son JOSEPH, of the famous story in Egypt, MARRIED AN EGYPTIAN WOMAN, THE DAUGHTER OF AN EGYPTIAN PRIEST


Joseph's 2 sons, Ephraim and Manasseh, clearly Israelites, are the sons of an EGYPTIAN woman.

Genesis 46:20
Now to Joseph in the land of Egypt were born Manasseh and Ephraim, whom Asenath, the daughter of Potiphera, priest of On, bore to him.

1 Kings 11
Solomon Turns from God
1Now (A)King Solomon loved many foreign women along with the daughter of Pharaoh: Moabite, Ammonite, Edomite, Sidonian, and Hittite women,
2from the nations concerning which the LORD had said to the sons of Israel, "(B)You shall not associate with them, nor shall they associate with you, for they will surely turn your heart away after their gods." Solomon held fast to these in love.
3(C)He had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines, and his wives turned his heart away.
4For when Solomon was old, his wives turned his heart away after other gods; and (D)his heart was not [a]wholly devoted to the LORD his God, as the heart of David his father had been.
5For Solomon went after (E)Ashtoreth the goddess of the Sidonians and after (F)Milcom the detestable idol of the Ammonites.


Jack Stone


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On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Jacob Israel <jk@kensingtonmicro.com> wrote:

<<<You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature? Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten. They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together. My son
is white and the first friend was black. My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy. He simply
enjoyed his company. >>>



Actually, "racism" was created by jews, not nature.

Do you know why the word is not in Scripture. There WAS no such concept in the entire Holy Bible, and in fact God punished Solomon severely for NOT being a racist, when he married the Egyptian daughter of the pharaoh:

And King Solomon loved many foreign [nikro, Strong's #5237] women, even the daughter of Pharaoh, Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians, Hittites; 1 Kings 11:1
Did not Solomon king of Israel sin by these things? yet among many nations was there no king like him, and he was beloved of his God, and God made him king over all Israel: nevertheless even him did foreign [nikro, Strong's #5237] women cause to sin. Nehemiah 13:26-27
http://fathersmanifesto.net/sin.htm

Do you know why it's not in the Declaration of Independence or the US Constitution? Because the word "racism" wasn't even coined until a century and a half after it was ratified, and even then it meant something the exact opposite of the way you're using it (it was equated to being a nationalist, or patriot, not necessarily bad traits).

There are more definitions of this word than there are people in the US. To a jew in Russia, a racist is a Russian who claims that only descendants of the Rus are Russians, which jews in Russia know they are not. To a jew in "Israel", a racist is a jew from Russia who they claim are "Russians pretending to be jews". When these "Israelis" then come to the US, they consider a "racist" to be one who upholds EXISTING immigration laws. Thus, to NOT be a racist to them, you must be a criminal or an outlaw. To a nigger in Africa, a racist is an American nigger, but to an American nigger, a racist is a WHITE man who simply wants to associate only with his own.

Of course it's ok for jews, niggers, and Mexican to be racists--it's only us honkies who can't.

John Knight







From: "Mr. Dinga" <mrdinga@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 6:29 PM
To: "Judy Hayner" <edpals2@yahoo.com>, "Tom" <boldsaber@gmail.com>, "gary beauregard" <beau@gcbussu.com>, "Jimmy Jumshade" <jimmybug@rocketmail.com>, "Claudette Konola" <Konola@Bresnan.net>, phayes9402@comcast.net

Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?



So you haven't seen much CHANGE? Do you still HOPE for it? I'd rather have a politician get elected and do nothing about our situation than one get elected on the premise of doing something but whom still never does. At least then I wouldn't feel blatantly lied to. It's not as if I'm not going to feel lied to anyway, but at least the situation could be KEPT AT BAY by not doing anything versus someone promising to FIX IT and then just adding more and more to it anyway.




From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:15 PM

Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Thanks, Tom. It has been years since I read any Neitsche and found him dark back then. I really have not studied Marx.
I have knowledge of his theories, but have not found them to be realistic.

Tried reading Hegel once in college, had a crush on a boy who was crazy for him, but never found it my cup of tea.

What are the specifics of what Obama is doing that lead you to say we are in a totalitarian regime ?

I am concerned about several things that are going on with this administration, but the these things are continuations of what
was begun in the Bush administration.








From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>

Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 11:36:46 AM

Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Judy, Those 4 philosophers had an extremely negative outlook on mankind and particularly of what they considered the "ruling class'. They all believed, in various degrees and small personal deviations, that a man was shaped by his work but that pleasure and happiness were determined by that ruling class and that the proletariat (the workers) had no choice in determining happiness or good. If he who controlled the means of production decided that workers would be happiest in taking one bath a month, it became the rule. That's why Marx, for example, predicted a proletariat revolution as those of the lower class faced a life of disappointment and frustration and that the revolution is inevitable. The failure of their philosophy is in understanding that replacing a royalty or a "corporation" or a monarch with a totalitarian government is only replacing one "ruling class" for another. A fallacy which we see full bore in the present administration as well.

They definitely didn't espouse the golden rule, far from it, and the USSR under Stalin is the closest I can come to the fulfillment of their philosophy, (Of course, Obama is certainly in the running today), although in reality, the 1917 Revolution ONLY proved that even the proletariat, when successful in their revolt and becoming the ruling class themselves inflicted just as much pain and suffering on a new proletariat or those of their former class who were left behind. Of course, as I wrote in a different post, faith and hope are anathema to the existence of any totalitarian sutocracy, whatever flavor you choose.

Tom

ARMY STRONG!! This We'll Defend.

From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:38 AM
To: gary beauregard; Jimmy Jumshade; Claudette Konola; phayes9402@comcast.net; Tom
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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


"Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be."

Bear


From what some of the posters on this e-mail string are writing, it does seem you are correct, Bear.

I had been aware that people like that existed, but I rarely meet anyone like that.

I certainly have not talked to anyone before who espouses a white separatist viewpoint like some on this list do.

One of the reasons we chose to live where we live was because of the racial diversity.
And the area I live in has only become much more racially and ethnically diverse.

In addition to my son's first friend who was black, one of my daughter's pre-school pals was Muslim with a white dad
and a mom from Singapore (she was really interesting). Currently, each of my kids have a varied group of friends,
with daughter being close to a girl with Pakistani heritage, and my son with a boy whose family comes from India, and is
Hindu.

In my job, I see children and people from all over the world.
Everyone I work with treats them all with respect. If anyone is hating any of these children, they are certainly keeping it to themselves.

Also, Tom, what are you saying that Neitsche, Marx, Hegel and Engel believed? The Golden Rule? Or that we as a species will never follow the golden rule?

Many cultures have a version of the golden rule. I had a poster once, it was decades old and it had all the
different versions printed on it. I put it on the refrigerator when my kids were little. Now there is an organization that
has done the same thing. It is just such a basic way of thinking that helps prevent problems from

And somehow, a crucial part of this discussion has been omitted, the part where JimmyJumshade spoke of racism as a natural defense mechanism created by nature, or something like that. It was his coment that I replied to.

Several passages in the New Testament quote Jesus of Nazareth espousing the golden rule, including the following:
Matthew 7:12
12Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Luke 6:31
31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
Luke 10:25-28
25And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 26He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? 27And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. 28And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
The passage in the book of Luke then continues with Jesus answering the question, "Who is my neighbor?", by telling the parable of the Good Samaritan, indicating that "your neighbour" means a total stranger, or someone that happens to be nearby. Jesus' teaching, however, goes beyond the negative formulation of not doing what one would not like done to themselves, to the positive formulation of actively doing good to another that, if the situations were reversed, one would desire that the other would do for them. This formulation, as indicated in the parable of the Good Samaritan, emphasises the needs for positive action that brings benefit to another, not simply restraining oneself from negative activities that hurt another. Taken as a rule of judgement, both formulations of the golden rule, the negative and positive, are equally applicable.[25]




From: gary beauregard <beau@gcbussu.com>
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 9:56:54 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be.

Bear

--- On Sun, 12/6/09, Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 10:19 AM
Actually Nietsche, Hegel, Marx, and Engel believed that.

Tom

ARMY STRONG!! This We'll Defend.

From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

So, you are saying that as a species we can never treat each other as we would like to be treated, with understanding, love
and respect?

I don't think this is what you mean, but it is coming off that way.

Why accept things as they are? Actually, new ideas are rarely accepted quickly. Of course the idea of racial equality
has been around for quite some time but it is clear not everyone has gotten the memo!

You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature? Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten. They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together. My son
is white and the first friend was black. My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy. He simply
enjoyed his company.




From: Jimmy Jumshade <jimmybug@rocketmail.com>
To: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>; phayes9402@comcast.net; Judy Hayner <edpals2@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 11:09:36 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 8:43 AM
Claudette, Patty seems to have focused an unimportant aspect of your note, which made an excellent point about
the fear behind the rationalization of racism.

And while I'm sure she didn't intend this, her comment enabled Predator then to put down the French ...

Another on this list has decried blocking the racist component on this list as censorship and against
freedom of speech.

If I have learned one thing by being on this list, it is that arguing with people only polarizes their positions. It does not change anyone's mind.

I suspect those who deny the majority of people on earth their humanity will only be cheered if they upset us.

I do not feel it is my duty to provide them with a forum for their fear and hatreds.

I agree with you there is no point in attempting discussion with them, and I take them off the list every time I send an
e-mail.

If the rest of you wish to argue with them and give their positions credibility, that is your right.




From: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:25:02 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Patty, what did I ever do to you to make you hate me so much? You seem to have this need to challenge everything I write. This one is just silly.

Claudette is a French name. http://www.behindthename.com/name/claudette

CLAUDETTE
Gender: Feminine
Usage: French
Pronounced: klo-DET [key]
French feminine form of CLAUDIUS

Konola is a very common Finnish Name. In fact if you google "Konola" you will find that most of the information that comes up is about a Finnish racing team, a well known Finnish artist, and an Nokia executive-in Finland.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBR_enUS274US274&q=Konola


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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

I'm curious as to how someone could tell that Claudette Konola is of French and Finnish descent. Maybe I'm just missing something but it doesn't appear that obvious to me.

Patty
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Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you, and your E-mails are going into my junk mail box where they are automatically deleted so long as you continue to send them. You are trying to look rational, but to me you are scared shitless that you may have to share power with people of color. By the way, you should be able to see from my name that my ethnic background is French and Finnish. I am a white woman who hopes there are no other white women willing to breed with the likes of you.

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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

So - you have great hostility toward White People - right?

Nobody else ever does bad - it's just white people

You probably applaude when black power raises it's ugly fist as they did in washington state lately and killed some police officers - and when laraza trys to take over America and even they murder black people in the LA area (have you heard?)

Did you hear about the blacks that broke into a wichita home and after forcing the white women to do all kinds of things for them and to each other - almost all of the white people there were killed. Of course that's okay too - right?

I used to know a guy named grant bruer - he said and correctly that blacks are a very basic people and are wired for the congo. He said they couldn't change that if htey wanted to and I believe he was right. Living in a refined decent society is beyond them.

John Hansen

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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Lordy.
Third world citizens have no value, they can't buy our goods. . .
The rest of the sentence doesn't say much, but that part says a big mouthful. Talk about a prejudice-- there's one in spades. And don't try to pin it on Predator as "his" prejudice-- he didn't make that up. All he did is give voice to one of our economic/cultural assumptions.

You could say our attitude has improved a little bit in recent years, though. Now we think they have at least a little bit of value-- as cheap labor..
Regards,
Al J
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Sent: Fri, Dec 4, 2009 10:13 am
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
In a message dated 12/4/2009 8:35:56 AM Central Standard Time, vivaveridad@yahoo.ca writes:
Why is one American child more valuable than 450 -750 third world children?
Third world citizens have no value, they can't buy our goods, they are on the global dole, and what have they ever contributed to any society?




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<<<Jacob (aka ISRAEL)'s favorite son JOSEPH, of the famous story in Egypt, MARRIED AN EGYPTIAN WOMAN, THE DAUGHTER OF AN EGYPTIAN PRIEST 2 sons, Ephraim and Manasseh, clearly Israelites, are the sons of an EGYPTIAN woman.>>>


First of all, Israelites are a PATRIARCHY where lineage and inheritance follows the father, not the mother, something you feminized matriarchal sodomite edomite kikes pretending to be "jews" will never, ever grasp.

Second of all, there WERE no Israelites around when Joseph was looking for a wife, but it's clear that neither Canaanite women nor Egyptian women were acceptable racial stock to either God, Abraham, or Jacob:

Gen 24:3
And I will make thee swear by the LORD, the God of heaven, and the God of the earth, that thou shalt not take a wife unto my son of the daughters of the Canaanites, among whom I dwell:
Gen 24:4
But thou shalt go unto my country, and to my kindred [who are Syrians, not Assyrians], and take a wife unto my son Isaac.


But most of all, this daughter of the Priest of On was not even an Egyptian--she was a descendant of Abraham, which Egyptians are NOT.

And lastly, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob HATED Egyptians, otherwise why would He destroy all of their firstborn sons but NOT those of His holy people, the House of Israel? And why would He bless mamzer offspring of an Egyptian woman and Joseph when He went to so much trouble to remove the mixed multitude when the Israelites left Egypt?

John Knight





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If John Knight is writing an email, he is lying about what the Bible says.

It's a formula..... creating his own Bible by CHANGING the Bible.

Jacob (aka ISRAEL)'s favorite son JOSEPH, of the famous story in Egypt, MARRIED AN EGYPTIAN WOMAN, THE DAUGHTER OF AN EGYPTIAN PRIEST


Joseph's 2 sons, Ephraim and Manasseh, clearly Israelites, are the sons of an EGYPTIAN woman.

Genesis 46:20
Now to Joseph in the land of Egypt were born Manasseh and Ephraim, whom Asenath, the daughter of Potiphera, priest of On, bore to him.

1 Kings 11
Solomon Turns from God
1Now (A)King Solomon loved many foreign women along with the daughter of Pharaoh: Moabite, Ammonite, Edomite, Sidonian, and Hittite women,
2from the nations concerning which the LORD had said to the sons of Israel, "(B)You shall not associate with them, nor shall they associate with you, for they will surely turn your heart away after their gods." Solomon held fast to these in love.
3(C)He had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines, and his wives turned his heart away.
4For when Solomon was old, his wives turned his heart away after other gods; and (D)his heart was not [a]wholly devoted to the LORD his God, as the heart of David his father had been.
5For Solomon went after (E)Ashtoreth the goddess of the Sidonians and after (F)Milcom the detestable idol of the Ammonites.


Jack Stone


On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Jacob Israel <jk@kensingtonmicro.com> wrote:

<<<You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature? Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten. They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together. My son
is white and the first friend was black. My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy. He simply
enjoyed his company. >>>



Actually, "racism" was created by jews, not nature.

Do you know why the word is not in Scripture. There WAS no such concept in the entire Holy Bible, and in fact God punished Solomon severely for NOT being a racist, when he married the Egyptian daughter of the pharaoh:

And King Solomon loved many foreign [nikro, Strong's #5237] women, even the daughter of Pharaoh, Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians, Hittites; 1 Kings 11:1
Did not Solomon king of Israel sin by these things? yet among many nations was there no king like him, and he was beloved of his God, and God made him king over all Israel: nevertheless even him did foreign [nikro, Strong's #5237] women cause to sin. Nehemiah 13:26-27
http://fathersmanifesto.net/sin.htm

Do you know why it's not in the Declaration of Independence or the US Constitution? Because the word "racism" wasn't even coined until a century and a half after it was ratified, and even then it meant something the exact opposite of the way you're using it (it was equated to being a nationalist, or patriot, not necessarily bad traits).

There are more definitions of this word than there are people in the US. To a jew in Russia, a racist is a Russian who claims that only descendants of the Rus are Russians, which jews in Russia know they are not. To a jew in "Israel", a racist is a jew from Russia who they claim are "Russians pretending to be jews". When these "Israelis" then come to the US, they consider a "racist" to be one who upholds EXISTING immigration laws. Thus, to NOT be a racist to them, you must be a criminal or an outlaw. To a nigger in Africa, a racist is an American nigger, but to an American nigger, a racist is a WHITE man who simply wants to associate only with his own.

Of course it's ok for jews, niggers, and Mexican to be racists--it's only us honkies who can't.

John Knight







From: "Mr. Dinga" <mrdinga@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 6:29 PM
To: "Judy Hayner" <edpals2@yahoo.com>, "Tom" <boldsaber@gmail.com>, "gary beauregard" <beau@gcbussu.com>, "Jimmy Jumshade" <jimmybug@rocketmail.com>, "Claudette Konola" <Konola@Bresnan.net>, phayes9402@comcast.net

Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?



So you haven't seen much CHANGE? Do you still HOPE for it? I'd rather have a politician get elected and do nothing about our situation than one get elected on the premise of doing something but whom still never does. At least then I wouldn't feel blatantly lied to. It's not as if I'm not going to feel lied to anyway, but at least the situation could be KEPT AT BAY by not doing anything versus someone promising to FIX IT and then just adding more and more to it anyway.




From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:15 PM

Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Thanks, Tom. It has been years since I read any Neitsche and found him dark back then. I really have not studied Marx.
I have knowledge of his theories, but have not found them to be realistic.

Tried reading Hegel once in college, had a crush on a boy who was crazy for him, but never found it my cup of tea.

What are the specifics of what Obama is doing that lead you to say we are in a totalitarian regime ?

I am concerned about several things that are going on with this administration, but the these things are continuations of what
was begun in the Bush administration.








From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>

Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 11:36:46 AM

Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Judy, Those 4 philosophers had an extremely negative outlook on mankind and particularly of what they considered the "ruling class'. They all believed, in various degrees and small personal deviations, that a man was shaped by his work but that pleasure and happiness were determined by that ruling class and that the proletariat (the workers) had no choice in determining happiness or good. If he who controlled the means of production decided that workers would be happiest in taking one bath a month, it became the rule. That's why Marx, for example, predicted a proletariat revolution as those of the lower class faced a life of disappointment and frustration and that the revolution is inevitable. The failure of their philosophy is in understanding that replacing a royalty or a "corporation" or a monarch with a totalitarian government is only replacing one "ruling class" for another. A fallacy which we see full bore in the present administration as well.

They definitely didn't espouse the golden rule, far from it, and the USSR under Stalin is the closest I can come to the fulfillment of their philosophy, (Of course, Obama is certainly in the running today), although in reality, the 1917 Revolution ONLY proved that even the proletariat, when successful in their revolt and becoming the ruling class themselves inflicted just as much pain and suffering on a new proletariat or those of their former class who were left behind. Of course, as I wrote in a different post, faith and hope are anathema to the existence of any totalitarian sutocracy, whatever flavor you choose.

Tom

ARMY STRONG!! This We'll Defend.

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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


"Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be."

Bear


From what some of the posters on this e-mail string are writing, it does seem you are correct, Bear.

I had been aware that people like that existed, but I rarely meet anyone like that.

I certainly have not talked to anyone before who espouses a white separatist viewpoint like some on this list do.

One of the reasons we chose to live where we live was because of the racial diversity.
And the area I live in has only become much more racially and ethnically diverse.

In addition to my son's first friend who was black, one of my daughter's pre-school pals was Muslim with a white dad
and a mom from Singapore (she was really interesting). Currently, each of my kids have a varied group of friends,
with daughter being close to a girl with Pakistani heritage, and my son with a boy whose family comes from India, and is
Hindu.

In my job, I see children and people from all over the world.
Everyone I work with treats them all with respect. If anyone is hating any of these children, they are certainly keeping it to themselves.

Also, Tom, what are you saying that Neitsche, Marx, Hegel and Engel believed? The Golden Rule? Or that we as a species will never follow the golden rule?

Many cultures have a version of the golden rule. I had a poster once, it was decades old and it had all the
different versions printed on it. I put it on the refrigerator when my kids were little. Now there is an organization that
has done the same thing. It is just such a basic way of thinking that helps prevent problems from

And somehow, a crucial part of this discussion has been omitted, the part where JimmyJumshade spoke of racism as a natural defense mechanism created by nature, or something like that. It was his coment that I replied to.

Several passages in the New Testament quote Jesus of Nazareth espousing the golden rule, including the following:
Matthew 7:12
12Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Luke 6:31
31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
Luke 10:25-28
25And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 26He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? 27And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. 28And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
The passage in the book of Luke then continues with Jesus answering the question, "Who is my neighbor?", by telling the parable of the Good Samaritan, indicating that "your neighbour" means a total stranger, or someone that happens to be nearby. Jesus' teaching, however, goes beyond the negative formulation of not doing what one would not like done to themselves, to the positive formulation of actively doing good to another that, if the situations were reversed, one would desire that the other would do for them. This formulation, as indicated in the parable of the Good Samaritan, emphasises the needs for positive action that brings benefit to another, not simply restraining oneself from negative activities that hurt another. Taken as a rule of judgement, both formulations of the golden rule, the negative and positive, are equally applicable.[25]




From: gary beauregard <beau@gcbussu.com>
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 9:56:54 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be.

Bear

--- On Sun, 12/6/09, Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 10:19 AM
Actually Nietsche, Hegel, Marx, and Engel believed that.

Tom

ARMY STRONG!! This We'll Defend.

From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

So, you are saying that as a species we can never treat each other as we would like to be treated, with understanding, love
and respect?

I don't think this is what you mean, but it is coming off that way.

Why accept things as they are? Actually, new ideas are rarely accepted quickly. Of course the idea of racial equality
has been around for quite some time but it is clear not everyone has gotten the memo!

You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature? Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten. They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together. My son
is white and the first friend was black. My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy. He simply
enjoyed his company.




From: Jimmy Jumshade <jimmybug@rocketmail.com>
To: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>; phayes9402@comcast.net; Judy Hayner <edpals2@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 11:09:36 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 8:43 AM
Claudette, Patty seems to have focused an unimportant aspect of your note, which made an excellent point about
the fear behind the rationalization of racism.

And while I'm sure she didn't intend this, her comment enabled Predator then to put down the French ...

Another on this list has decried blocking the racist component on this list as censorship and against
freedom of speech.

If I have learned one thing by being on this list, it is that arguing with people only polarizes their positions. It does not change anyone's mind.

I suspect those who deny the majority of people on earth their humanity will only be cheered if they upset us.

I do not feel it is my duty to provide them with a forum for their fear and hatreds.

I agree with you there is no point in attempting discussion with them, and I take them off the list every time I send an
e-mail.

If the rest of you wish to argue with them and give their positions credibility, that is your right.




From: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:25:02 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Patty, what did I ever do to you to make you hate me so much? You seem to have this need to challenge everything I write. This one is just silly.

Claudette is a French name. http://www.behindthename.com/name/claudette

CLAUDETTE
Gender: Feminine
Usage: French
Pronounced: klo-DET [key]
French feminine form of CLAUDIUS

Konola is a very common Finnish Name. In fact if you google "Konola" you will find that most of the information that comes up is about a Finnish racing team, a well known Finnish artist, and an Nokia executive-in Finland.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBR_enUS274US274&q=Konola


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Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 8:03 AM
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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

I'm curious as to how someone could tell that Claudette Konola is of French and Finnish descent. Maybe I'm just missing something but it doesn't appear that obvious to me.

Patty
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Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2009 9:21:57 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you, and your E-mails are going into my junk mail box where they are automatically deleted so long as you continue to send them. You are trying to look rational, but to me you are scared shitless that you may have to share power with people of color. By the way, you should be able to see from my name that my ethnic background is French and Finnish. I am a white woman who hopes there are no other white women willing to breed with the likes of you.

From: John Hansen [mailto:majorhart@sbcglobal.net]
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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

So - you have great hostility toward White People - right?

Nobody else ever does bad - it's just white people

You probably applaude when black power raises it's ugly fist as they did in washington state lately and killed some police officers - and when laraza trys to take over America and even they murder black people in the LA area (have you heard?)

Did you hear about the blacks that broke into a wichita home and after forcing the white women to do all kinds of things for them and to each other - almost all of the white people there were killed. Of course that's okay too - right?

I used to know a guy named grant bruer - he said and correctly that blacks are a very basic people and are wired for the congo. He said they couldn't change that if htey wanted to and I believe he was right. Living in a refined decent society is beyond them.



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There arent' any Jews butchering any Palestinians.

There are fake Palestinians butchering Jews, and paying the price when they do it.


The Iraqis, Iranians, Afghans, and Pakistanis are being PROTECTED by the United States against MUSLIM slaughter and MUSLIM murderers, and this has nothing to do with Israel.


Jack Stone


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Tell that to the jews that are butchering the Palestinians.

Tell them might does not make right.

Tell the iraqis and soon the Iranians, now the afghans and pakistanis that are under attack by the USA under Israel's orders.

Tell them that.

And I have nothing against the other races as long as they don't invade MY country, take my jobs, homes or my life or force themselves and their widely differing way of life on me.

And as long as they don't overpopulate the earth and swarm over everywhere.

But they do.
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To: John Hansen
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Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?



But might DOES make right in your neo-Nazi philosophy.

NOT IN MINE. In my philosophy, all people are created equal by God, and as the Bible says, heaven will be fileld with people "from every tribe from every tongue from every people from every nation."

BUT YOUR RACE-BASED PHILOSOPHY is specifically based on Darwinism.

The Nazi Party's racial policies and thinking was ENTIRELY Darwinism. THe idea of a Master race, of inferior races, of racial purity, WAS ALL DARWINISM APPLIED.

So according to YOUR beliefs (not mine) MIGHT DOES MAKE RIGHT. THAT IS WHAT NAZIS BELIEVED. If you have the power to take something, then you have a right to it.

The Germans had a right to take over territory siply because they could.

The Germans were destined to rule the Earth simply because they could.

The historical imperative favored the strong.

SO WHEN ANTI-SEMITES LIE AND SAY THAT JEWS CONTROL EVERYTHING, THEY ARE DECLARING THAT THE JEWS ARE THE MASTER RACE and that the historical imperative is for Jews to take over the Earth and all other racs to -- in a Darwinian sense -- fade away.

That's now that I believe.

But that is what you are saying everytie you spread conspiracy theories that the jews control everything.

Jack Stone




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They are pretty much in control of everything and wanting it all.

>Sounds like, to hear you tell it, the Jews are simply superior human beings to others.

No - might doesn't make right - charles manson wasn't superior he was the most ruthless.

Jews are the most crooked and the ethnocentricism gives them an advatage over others and they use it.

That's why they won't give their full allegiance to America - they are loyal only to other jews.

As for the germans / jews - I don't know much about that.

White People are no inferior to anyone - their biggest fault is being too kind, generous and tolerant.

But, we're learning.

John Hansen

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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?




But according to you, the Jews are rich and in control of everything.

So nothing is holding the Jews back, is it?

Sounds like, to hear you tell it, the Jews are simply superior human beings to others.

Clearly the Jews are superior to all Germans .... at least to hear you tell the story.

You claim that the Germans were defeated by Jews in WW1 and WW2, that Churchill, Eisenhower and Roosevelt were all Jews, and Stalin as well.

So according to you, the Jews whupped the Germans butts twice in a row.

Clearly to follow the Nazi doctrine based on Darwin of the suprerior race dominanting, you should commit suicide because YOU are the inferior race. Accordign to YOUR Darwinist Nazi doctrine the Jews SHOULD (ought to) crowd out all other people and all other people should be extinct.

According to MY belief, by contrast, God died for all of humanity and race is irrelevant.


Jack Stone


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Fixation on being a victim prevents Blacks and neo-Nazis alike from taking responsibility for their own lives and establishing a viable and workable, functioning society in their community.

That applies to the jews who spout victimhood at every opportunity.
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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?




It is not racism to cite facts.

It may be motivated by racism to invent false facts and/or misrepresent them.

It is also racist to leap the unwarranted conclusion that the facts are explaiend by skin color rather than CULTURE.

There is no doubt that the culture which has come to be normal and accepted among SOME (perhaps most) Black communities -- AND ALSO AMONG MANY WHITE COMMUNITIES -- accepts as "normal" a lifestyle that is immoral and dysfunctional.

Fixation on being a victim prevents Blacks and neo-Nazis alike from taking responsibility for their own lives and establishing a viable and workable, functioning society in their community.

This is the same lifestyle and system of amorality that liberals are trying desperately to instill into ALL of American society.

And indeed it is the same culture of immorality and victimhood that prevails among Germans (Teutons) and neo-Nazis. The SAME irresponsibility and fixation on being a victim is at work among the neo-Nazis as with many Black cultures.

This is the belief system that the liberals are tying to make all of American society live by. It will be as destructive to all of society as it has been in the post-slavery Black community.

Jack Stone



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IT's not wonder we are down on those violent other races.

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Explain this timmy. WHY are you animals so much more likely to
attack a white man? WHY are your own people having sex with 12 yr old
girls who have 5 litters by the time they're 18??

http://amren.com/
http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.pdf

Major Findings
• Police and the justice system are not biased against minorities.
Crime Rates
• Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to
commit murder,
and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
• When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times
more likely
than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a
knife.
• Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white
rate, and
Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate....
• The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the
percentage of
the population that is black and Hispanic.
Interracial Crime
• Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every
year involving
blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15
percent.
• Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against
blacks. Fortyfive
percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10
percent are
Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of
their victims are
black.
• Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent
crime against
a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
• Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated
hate crimes
against whites than vice versa.
Gangs
• Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
• Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of
youth gangs.
Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more
likely.
Incarceration
• Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled,
from 139
to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from
320,000 to 1.39
million.
• Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites.
Hispanics are
three times more likely.



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Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:45 AM
Subject: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


John Hanson asked simply:

"So - you have great hostility toward White People - right?"

An obvious racist known on the net as "Claudette Konola" whined, and thus begun a whole flurry of self-hating email:

"John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you [ad infinitum]... "

It's a simple question. And while you think you didn't answer it, Claudette, we know from your response that you DO HATE White people just as John surmised.

Now here's another question. What exactly is it about the US Constitution which makes you muds think YOU have a right to free speech that us WHITES do not have? Why can YOU hurl such insults, and we can't even ask a simple question of you? Why do you HATE simple discussions about race so much. I'd really like to know.

John Knight






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I don't agree with everything, or most things that Predator writes......but I know him and I know that he writes the things he does to get the reaction you and Claudette are displaying......in other words you gave him what he wants. If someone wants to block someone why do they feel the need to make a big deal about it as if the blockee is going to have an emotional breakdown and have their lives ruined? It's just not that important to most people......if a friend said I'm going to block you I would care but someone you don't even know!

Patty
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From: "Judy Hayner" <edpals2@yahoo.com>

To: "Claudette Konola" <Konola@Bresnan.net>, phayes9402@comcast.net
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Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2009 11:43:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


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Claudette, Patty seems to have focused an unimportant aspect of your note, which made an excellent point about
the fear behind the rationalization of racism.


And while I'm sure she didn't intend this, her comment enabled Predator then to put down the French ....


Another on this list has decried blocking the racist component on this list as censorship and against
freedom of speech.


If I have learned one thing by being on this list, it is that arguing with people only polarizes their positions. It does not change anyone's mind.


I suspect those who deny the majority of people on earth their humanity will only be cheered if they upset us.


I do not feel it is my duty to provide them with a forum for their fear and hatreds.


I agree with you there is no point in attempting discussion with them, and I take them off the list every time I send an
e-mail.


If the rest of you wish to argue with them and give their positions credibility, that is your right.


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From: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:25:02 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


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Patty, what did I ever do to you to make you hate me so much? You seem to have this need to challenge everything I write. This one is just silly.

Claudette is a French name. http://www.behindthename.com/name/claudette

CLAUDETTE
Gender: Feminine
Usage: French
Pronounced: klo-DET [key]
French feminine form of CLAUDIUS

Konola is a very common Finnish Name. In fact if you google “Konola” you will find that most of the information that comes up is about a Finnish racing team, a well known Finnish artist, and an Nokia executive—in Finland.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBR_enUS274US274&q=Konola


From: phayes9402@comcast.net [mailto:phayes9402@comcast.net]

Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 8:03 AM

To: Claudette Konola
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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

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I'm curious as to how someone could tell that Claudette Konola is of French and Finnish descent. Maybe I'm just missing something but it doesn't appear that obvious to me.

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Patty
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From: "Claudette Konola" <Konola@Bresnan.net>

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Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2009 9:21:57 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you, and your E-mails are going into my junk mail box where they are automatically deleted so long as you continue to send them. You are trying to look rational, but to me you are scared shitless that you may have to share power with people of color. By the way, you should be able to see from my name that my ethnic background is French and Finnish. I am a white woman who hopes there are no other white women willing to breed with the likes of you.

From: John Hansen [mailto:majorhart@sbcglobal.net]

Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:38 PM

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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

So - you have great hostility toward White People - right?

Nobody else ever does bad - it's just white people

You probably applaude when black power raises it's ugly fist as they did in washington state lately and killed some police officers - and when laraza trys to take over America and even they murder black people in the LA area (have you heard?)

Did you hear about the blacks that broke into a wichita home and after forcing the white women to do all kinds of things for them and to each other - almost all of the white people there were killed. Of course that's okay too - right?

I used to know a guy named grant bruer - he said and correctly that blacks are a very basic people and are wired for the congo. He said they couldn't change that if htey wanted to and I believe he was right. Living in a refined decent society is beyond them.

John Hansen

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I don't know about the rest of you, but when I try to contact God, Allah, Buddha or any of those others supreme beings I receive messages back like these.

This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason:

Each of the following recipients was rejected by a remote mail server.
The reasons given by the server are included to help you determine why
each recipient was rejected.
Reason: 5.1.1 unknown or illegal alias:
Access denied to this site.
Not a valid address.
No longer accepting mail from this address.
Broken link, try again.

This has been going on for 69 years. So I've quit trying. I think Israel gave up a long time ago too and turned to Washington to protect and help them. Washington doesn't send them messages like those above.

It's more like.
Message received.
Help is on the way.

Joe T


----- Original Message -----
From: Jacob Israel
To: Jack Stone
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Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


<<<Jacob (aka ISRAEL)'s favorite son JOSEPH, of the famous story in Egypt, MARRIED AN EGYPTIAN WOMAN, THE DAUGHTER OF AN EGYPTIAN PRIEST 2 sons, Ephraim and Manasseh, clearly Israelites, are the sons of an EGYPTIAN woman.>>>


First of all, Israelites are a PATRIARCHY where lineage and inheritance follows the father, not the mother, something you feminized matriarchal sodomite edomite kikes pretending to be "jews" will never, ever grasp.

Second of all, there WERE no Israelites around when Joseph was looking for a wife, but it's clear that neither Canaanite women nor Egyptian women were acceptable racial stock to either God, Abraham, or Jacob:

Gen 24:3
And I will make thee swear by the LORD, the God of heaven, and the God of the earth, that thou shalt not take a wife unto my son of the daughters of the Canaanites, among whom I dwell:
Gen 24:4
But thou shalt go unto my country, and to my kindred [who are Syrians, not Assyrians], and take a wife unto my son Isaac.
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But most of all, this daughter of the Priest of On was not even an Egyptian--she was a descendant of Abraham, which Egyptians are NOT.

And lastly, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob HATED Egyptians, otherwise why would He destroy all of their firstborn sons but NOT those of His holy people, the House of Israel? And why would He bless mamzer offspring of an Egyptian woman and Joseph when He went to so much trouble to remove the mixed multitude when the Israelites left Egypt?

John Knight





From: Jack Stone
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 7:17 AM
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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?




If John Knight is writing an email, he is lying about what the Bible says.

It's a formula..... creating his own Bible by CHANGING the Bible.

Jacob (aka ISRAEL)'s favorite son JOSEPH, of the famous story in Egypt, MARRIED AN EGYPTIAN WOMAN, THE DAUGHTER OF AN EGYPTIAN PRIEST


Joseph's 2 sons, Ephraim and Manasseh, clearly Israelites, are the sons of an EGYPTIAN woman.

Genesis 46:20
Now to Joseph in the land of Egypt were born Manasseh and Ephraim, whom Asenath, the daughter of Potiphera, priest of On, bore to him.

1 Kings 11
Solomon Turns from God
1Now (A)King Solomon loved many foreign women along with the daughter of Pharaoh: Moabite, Ammonite, Edomite, Sidonian, and Hittite women,
2from the nations concerning which the LORD had said to the sons of Israel, "(B)You shall not associate with them, nor shall they associate with you, for they will surely turn your heart away after their gods." Solomon held fast to these in love.
3(C)He had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines, and his wives turned his heart away.
4For when Solomon was old, his wives turned his heart away after other gods; and (D)his heart was not [a]wholly devoted to the LORD his God, as the heart of David his father had been.
5For Solomon went after (E)Ashtoreth the goddess of the Sidonians and after (F)Milcom the detestable idol of the Ammonites.


Jack Stone


On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Jacob Israel <jk@kensingtonmicro.com> wrote:

<<<You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature? Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten. They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together. My son
is white and the first friend was black. My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy. He simply
enjoyed his company. >>>



Actually, "racism" was created by jews, not nature.

Do you know why the word is not in Scripture. There WAS no such concept in the entire Holy Bible, and in fact God punished Solomon severely for NOT being a racist, when he married the Egyptian daughter of the pharaoh:

And King Solomon loved many foreign [nikro, Strong's #5237] women, even the daughter of Pharaoh, Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians, Hittites; 1 Kings 11:1
Did not Solomon king of Israel sin by these things? yet among many nations was there no king like him, and he was beloved of his God, and God made him king over all Israel: nevertheless even him did foreign [nikro, Strong's #5237] women cause to sin. Nehemiah 13:26-27
http://fathersmanifesto.net/sin.htm

Do you know why it's not in the Declaration of Independence or the US Constitution? Because the word "racism" wasn't even coined until a century and a half after it was ratified, and even then it meant something the exact opposite of the way you're using it (it was equated to being a nationalist, or patriot, not necessarily bad traits).

There are more definitions of this word than there are people in the US. To a jew in Russia, a racist is a Russian who claims that only descendants of the Rus are Russians, which jews in Russia know they are not. To a jew in "Israel", a racist is a jew from Russia who they claim are "Russians pretending to be jews". When these "Israelis" then come to the US, they consider a "racist" to be one who upholds EXISTING immigration laws. Thus, to NOT be a racist to them, you must be a criminal or an outlaw. To a nigger in Africa, a racist is an American nigger, but to an American nigger, a racist is a WHITE man who simply wants to associate only with his own.

Of course it's ok for jews, niggers, and Mexican to be racists--it's only us honkies who can't.

John Knight







From: "Mr. Dinga" <mrdinga@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 6:29 PM
To: "Judy Hayner" <edpals2@yahoo.com>, "Tom" <boldsaber@gmail.com>, "gary beauregard" <beau@gcbussu.com>, "Jimmy Jumshade" <jimmybug@rocketmail.com>, "Claudette Konola" <Konola@Bresnan.net>, phayes9402@comcast.net

Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?



So you haven't seen much CHANGE? Do you still HOPE for it? I'd rather have a politician get elected and do nothing about our situation than one get elected on the premise of doing something but whom still never does. At least then I wouldn't feel blatantly lied to. It's not as if I'm not going to feel lied to anyway, but at least the situation could be KEPT AT BAY by not doing anything versus someone promising to FIX IT and then just adding more and more to it anyway.




From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:15 PM

Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Thanks, Tom. It has been years since I read any Neitsche and found him dark back then. I really have not studied Marx.
I have knowledge of his theories, but have not found them to be realistic.

Tried reading Hegel once in college, had a crush on a boy who was crazy for him, but never found it my cup of tea.

What are the specifics of what Obama is doing that lead you to say we are in a totalitarian regime ?

I am concerned about several things that are going on with this administration, but the these things are continuations of what
was begun in the Bush administration.








From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>

Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 11:36:46 AM

Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Judy, Those 4 philosophers had an extremely negative outlook on mankind and particularly of what they considered the "ruling class'. They all believed, in various degrees and small personal deviations, that a man was shaped by his work but that pleasure and happiness were determined by that ruling class and that the proletariat (the workers) had no choice in determining happiness or good. If he who controlled the means of production decided that workers would be happiest in taking one bath a month, it became the rule. That's why Marx, for example, predicted a proletariat revolution as those of the lower class faced a life of disappointment and frustration and that the revolution is inevitable. The failure of their philosophy is in understanding that replacing a royalty or a "corporation" or a monarch with a totalitarian government is only replacing one "ruling class" for another. A fallacy which we see full bore in the present administration as well.

They definitely didn't espouse the golden rule, far from it, and the USSR under Stalin is the closest I can come to the fulfillment of their philosophy, (Of course, Obama is certainly in the running today), although in reality, the 1917 Revolution ONLY proved that even the proletariat, when successful in their revolt and becoming the ruling class themselves inflicted just as much pain and suffering on a new proletariat or those of their former class who were left behind. Of course, as I wrote in a different post, faith and hope are anathema to the existence of any totalitarian sutocracy, whatever flavor you choose.

Tom

ARMY STRONG!! This We'll Defend.

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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


"Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be."

Bear


From what some of the posters on this e-mail string are writing, it does seem you are correct, Bear.

I had been aware that people like that existed, but I rarely meet anyone like that.

I certainly have not talked to anyone before who espouses a white separatist viewpoint like some on this list do.

One of the reasons we chose to live where we live was because of the racial diversity.
And the area I live in has only become much more racially and ethnically diverse.

In addition to my son's first friend who was black, one of my daughter's pre-school pals was Muslim with a white dad
and a mom from Singapore (she was really interesting). Currently, each of my kids have a varied group of friends,
with daughter being close to a girl with Pakistani heritage, and my son with a boy whose family comes from India, and is
Hindu.

In my job, I see children and people from all over the world.
Everyone I work with treats them all with respect. If anyone is hating any of these children, they are certainly keeping it to themselves.

Also, Tom, what are you saying that Neitsche, Marx, Hegel and Engel believed? The Golden Rule? Or that we as a species will never follow the golden rule?

Many cultures have a version of the golden rule. I had a poster once, it was decades old and it had all the
different versions printed on it. I put it on the refrigerator when my kids were little. Now there is an organization that
has done the same thing. It is just such a basic way of thinking that helps prevent problems from

And somehow, a crucial part of this discussion has been omitted, the part where JimmyJumshade spoke of racism as a natural defense mechanism created by nature, or something like that. It was his coment that I replied to.

Several passages in the New Testament quote Jesus of Nazareth espousing the golden rule, including the following:
Matthew 7:12
12Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Luke 6:31
31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
Luke 10:25-28
25And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 26He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? 27And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. 28And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
The passage in the book of Luke then continues with Jesus answering the question, "Who is my neighbor?", by telling the parable of the Good Samaritan, indicating that "your neighbour" means a total stranger, or someone that happens to be nearby. Jesus' teaching, however, goes beyond the negative formulation of not doing what one would not like done to themselves, to the positive formulation of actively doing good to another that, if the situations were reversed, one would desire that the other would do for them. This formulation, as indicated in the parable of the Good Samaritan, emphasises the needs for positive action that brings benefit to another, not simply restraining oneself from negative activities that hurt another. Taken as a rule of judgement, both formulations of the golden rule, the negative and positive, are equally applicable.[25]




From: gary beauregard <beau@gcbussu.com>
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 9:56:54 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be.

Bear

--- On Sun, 12/6/09, Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 10:19 AM
Actually Nietsche, Hegel, Marx, and Engel believed that.

Tom

ARMY STRONG!! This We'll Defend.

From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

So, you are saying that as a species we can never treat each other as we would like to be treated, with understanding, love
and respect?

I don't think this is what you mean, but it is coming off that way.

Why accept things as they are? Actually, new ideas are rarely accepted quickly. Of course the idea of racial equality
has been around for quite some time but it is clear not everyone has gotten the memo!

You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature? Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten. They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together. My son
is white and the first friend was black. My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy. He simply
enjoyed his company.




From: Jimmy Jumshade <jimmybug@rocketmail.com>
To: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>; phayes9402@comcast.net; Judy Hayner <edpals2@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 11:09:36 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 8:43 AM
Claudette, Patty seems to have focused an unimportant aspect of your note, which made an excellent point about
the fear behind the rationalization of racism.

And while I'm sure she didn't intend this, her comment enabled Predator then to put down the French ...

Another on this list has decried blocking the racist component on this list as censorship and against
freedom of speech.

If I have learned one thing by being on this list, it is that arguing with people only polarizes their positions. It does not change anyone's mind.

I suspect those who deny the majority of people on earth their humanity will only be cheered if they upset us.

I do not feel it is my duty to provide them with a forum for their fear and hatreds.

I agree with you there is no point in attempting discussion with them, and I take them off the list every time I send an
e-mail.

If the rest of you wish to argue with them and give their positions credibility, that is your right.




From: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:25:02 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Patty, what did I ever do to you to make you hate me so much? You seem to have this need to challenge everything I write. This one is just silly.

Claudette is a French name. http://www.behindthename.com/name/claudette

CLAUDETTE
Gender: Feminine
Usage: French
Pronounced: klo-DET [key]
French feminine form of CLAUDIUS

Konola is a very common Finnish Name. In fact if you google "Konola" you will find that most of the information that comes up is about a Finnish racing team, a well known Finnish artist, and an Nokia executive-in Finland.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBR_enUS274US274&q=Konola


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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

I'm curious as to how someone could tell that Claudette Konola is of French and Finnish descent. Maybe I'm just missing something but it doesn't appear that obvious to me.

Patty
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Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2009 9:21:57 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you, and your E-mails are going into my junk mail box where they are automatically deleted so long as you continue to send them. You are trying to look rational, but to me you are scared shitless that you may have to share power with people of color. By the way, you should be able to see from my name that my ethnic background is French and Finnish. I am a white woman who hopes there are no other white women willing to breed with the likes of you.

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Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:38 PM
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Now I know you're jon mosely - he told me the same LIES 3 years ago.
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Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?




There arent' any Jews butchering any Palestinians..

There are fake Palestinians butchering Jews, and paying the price when they do it.


The Iraqis, Iranians, Afghans, and Pakistanis are being PROTECTED by the United States against MUSLIM slaughter and MUSLIM murderers, and this has nothing to do with Israel.


Jack Stone


On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:41 AM, John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Tell that to the jews that are butchering the Palestinians.

Tell them might does not make right.

Tell the iraqis and soon the Iranians, now the afghans and pakistanis that are under attack by the USA under Israel's orders.

Tell them that.

And I have nothing against the other races as long as they don't invade MY country, take my jobs, homes or my life or force themselves and their widely differing way of life on me.

And as long as they don't overpopulate the earth and swarm over everywhere.

But they do.
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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?



But might DOES make right in your neo-Nazi philosophy.

NOT IN MINE. In my philosophy, all people are created equal by God, and as the Bible says, heaven will be fileld with people "from every tribe from every tongue from every people from every nation."

BUT YOUR RACE-BASED PHILOSOPHY is specifically based on Darwinism.

The Nazi Party's racial policies and thinking was ENTIRELY Darwinism. THe idea of a Master race, of inferior races, of racial purity, WAS ALL DARWINISM APPLIED.

So according to YOUR beliefs (not mine) MIGHT DOES MAKE RIGHT. THAT IS WHAT NAZIS BELIEVED. If you have the power to take something, then you have a right to it.

The Germans had a right to take over territory siply because they could.

The Germans were destined to rule the Earth simply because they could.

The historical imperative favored the strong.

SO WHEN ANTI-SEMITES LIE AND SAY THAT JEWS CONTROL EVERYTHING, THEY ARE DECLARING THAT THE JEWS ARE THE MASTER RACE and that the historical imperative is for Jews to take over the Earth and all other racs to -- in a Darwinian sense -- fade away.

That's now that I believe.

But that is what you are saying everytie you spread conspiracy theories that the jews control everything.

Jack Stone




On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:48 AM, John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

They are pretty much in control of everything and wanting it all.

>Sounds like, to hear you tell it, the Jews are simply superior human beings to others.

No - might doesn't make right - charles manson wasn't superior he was the most ruthless.

Jews are the most crooked and the ethnocentricism gives them an advatage over others and they use it.

That's why they won't give their full allegiance to America - they are loyal only to other jews.

As for the germans / jews - I don't know much about that.

White People are no inferior to anyone - their biggest fault is being too kind, generous and tolerant.

But, we're learning.

John Hansen

----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Stone
To: John Hansen
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Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?




But according to you, the Jews are rich and in control of everything.

So nothing is holding the Jews back, is it?

Sounds like, to hear you tell it, the Jews are simply superior human beings to others.

Clearly the Jews are superior to all Germans .... at least to hear you tell the story.

You claim that the Germans were defeated by Jews in WW1 and WW2, that Churchill, Eisenhower and Roosevelt were all Jews, and Stalin as well.

So according to you, the Jews whupped the Germans butts twice in a row.

Clearly to follow the Nazi doctrine based on Darwin of the suprerior race dominanting, you should commit suicide because YOU are the inferior race. Accordign to YOUR Darwinist Nazi doctrine the Jews SHOULD (ought to) crowd out all other people and all other people should be extinct.

According to MY belief, by contrast, God died for all of humanity and race is irrelevant.


Jack Stone


On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 4:04 PM, John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
Fixation on being a victim prevents Blacks and neo-Nazis alike from taking responsibility for their own lives and establishing a viable and workable, functioning society in their community.

That applies to the jews who spout victimhood at every opportunity.
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?




It is not racism to cite facts.

It may be motivated by racism to invent false facts and/or misrepresent them.

It is also racist to leap the unwarranted conclusion that the facts are explaiend by skin color rather than CULTURE.

There is no doubt that the culture which has come to be normal and accepted among SOME (perhaps most) Black communities -- AND ALSO AMONG MANY WHITE COMMUNITIES -- accepts as "normal" a lifestyle that is immoral and dysfunctional.

Fixation on being a victim prevents Blacks and neo-Nazis alike from taking responsibility for their own lives and establishing a viable and workable, functioning society in their community.

This is the same lifestyle and system of amorality that liberals are trying desperately to instill into ALL of American society.

And indeed it is the same culture of immorality and victimhood that prevails among Germans (Teutons) and neo-Nazis. The SAME irresponsibility and fixation on being a victim is at work among the neo-Nazis as with many Black cultures.

This is the belief system that the liberals are tying to make all of American society live by. It will be as destructive to all of society as it has been in the post-slavery Black community.

Jack Stone



On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 9:03 AM, John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

IT's not wonder we are down on those violent other races.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Explain this timmy. WHY are you animals so much more likely to
attack a white man? WHY are your own people having sex with 12 yr old
girls who have 5 litters by the time they're 18??

http://amren.com/
http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.pdf

Major Findings
• Police and the justice system are not biased against minorities.
Crime Rates
• Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to
commit murder,
and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
• When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times
more likely
than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a
knife.
• Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white
rate, and
Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.....
• The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the
percentage of
the population that is black and Hispanic.
Interracial Crime
• Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every
year involving
blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15
percent.
• Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against
blacks. Fortyfive
percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10
percent are
Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of
their victims are
black.
• Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent
crime against
a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
• Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated
hate crimes
against whites than vice versa.
Gangs
• Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
• Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of
youth gangs.
Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more
likely.
Incarceration
• Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled,
from 139
to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from
320,000 to 1.39
million.
• Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites.
Hispanics are
three times more likely.



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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:45 AM
Subject: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


John Hanson asked simply:

"So - you have great hostility toward White People - right?"

An obvious racist known on the net as "Claudette Konola" whined, and thus begun a whole flurry of self-hating email:

"John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you [ad infinitum]... "

It's a simple question. And while you think you didn't answer it, Claudette, we know from your response that you DO HATE White people just as John surmised.

Now here's another question. What exactly is it about the US Constitution which makes you muds think YOU have a right to free speech that us WHITES do not have? Why can YOU hurl such insults, and we can't even ask a simple question of you? Why do you HATE simple discussions about race so much. I'd really like to know.

John Knight






From: phayes9402@comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 9:15 AM
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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


I don't agree with everything, or most things that Predator writes.......but I know him and I know that he writes the things he does to get the reaction you and Claudette are displaying......in other words you gave him what he wants. If someone wants to block someone why do they feel the need to make a big deal about it as if the blockee is going to have an emotional breakdown and have their lives ruined? It's just not that important to most people......if a friend said I'm going to block you I would care but someone you don't even know!

Patty
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Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2009 11:43:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


Claudette, Patty seems to have focused an unimportant aspect of your note, which made an excellent point about
the fear behind the rationalization of racism.


And while I'm sure she didn't intend this, her comment enabled Predator then to put down the French .....


Another on this list has decried blocking the racist component on this list as censorship and against
freedom of speech.


If I have learned one thing by being on this list, it is that arguing with people only polarizes their positions. It does not change anyone's mind.


I suspect those who deny the majority of people on earth their humanity will only be cheered if they upset us.


I do not feel it is my duty to provide them with a forum for their fear and hatreds.


I agree with you there is no point in attempting discussion with them, and I take them off the list every time I send an
e-mail.


If the rest of you wish to argue with them and give their positions credibility, that is your right.




From: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:25:02 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


Patty, what did I ever do to you to make you hate me so much? You seem to have this need to challenge everything I write. This one is just silly.

Claudette is a French name. http://www.behindthename.com/name/claudette

CLAUDETTE
Gender: Feminine
Usage: French
Pronounced: klo-DET [key]
French feminine form of CLAUDIUS

Konola is a very common Finnish Name. In fact if you google “Konola” you will find that most of the information that comes up is about a Finnish racing team, a well known Finnish artist, and an Nokia executive—in Finland.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBR_enUS274US274&q=Konola


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You apparently have led a very strange and sheltered life. I've known people from all over the world, and would surely
never prevent my children from being friends or marrying anyone they loved and who treated them well.


My son's friend was a perfectly nice boy. His mother became a friend of mine, and I learned a lot from her because she also
had older children. She was a great mom.


The only person who ever treated either of my kids badly was one little white boy who dated my daughter and was really mean to her. The kid was an asshole.


But that had NOTHING to do with the fact he's white, either.


HERE'S THE TRUTH: skin color is not the cause of a person being a criminal, an asshole, or an idiot.






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I wouldn't let a kid of mine do anything with one of the other races - the next think you know if he is male he will be DEAD and if femail beaten and pregnant.

To put them in that kind of danger is child abuse.
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<<<You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature? Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten. They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together. My son
is white and the first friend was black. My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy. He simply
enjoyed his company. >>>



Actually, "racism" was created by jews, not nature.

Do you know why the word is not in Scripture. There WAS no such concept in the entire Holy Bible, and in fact God punished Solomon severely for NOT being a racist, when he married the Egyptian daughter of the pharaoh:

And King Solomon loved many foreign [nikro, Strong's #5237] women, even the daughter of Pharaoh, Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians, Hittites; 1 Kings 11:1
Did not Solomon king of Israel sin by these things? yet among many nations was there no king like him, and he was beloved of his God, and God made him king over all Israel: nevertheless even him did foreign [nikro, Strong's #5237] women cause to sin. Nehemiah 13:26-27
http://fathersmanifesto.net/sin.htm

Do you know why it's not in the Declaration of Independence or the US Constitution? Because the word "racism" wasn't even coined until a century and a half after it was ratified, and even then it meant something the exact opposite of the way you're using it (it was equated to being a nationalist, or patriot, not necessarily bad traits).

There are more definitions of this word than there are people in the US. To a jew in Russia, a racist is a Russian who claims that only descendants of the Rus are Russians, which jews in Russia know they are not. To a jew in "Israel", a racist is a jew from Russia who they claim are "Russians pretending to be jews". When these "Israelis" then come to the US, they consider a "racist" to be one who upholds EXISTING immigration laws. Thus, to NOT be a racist to them, you must be a criminal or an outlaw. To a nigger in Africa, a racist is an American nigger, but to an American nigger, a racist is a WHITE man who simply wants to associate only with his own.

Of course it's ok for jews, niggers, and Mexican to be racists--it's only us honkies who can't.

John Knight







From: "Mr. Dinga" <mrdinga@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 6:29 PM
To: "Judy Hayner" <edpals2@yahoo.com>, "Tom" <boldsaber@gmail.com>, "gary beauregard" <beau@gcbussu..com>, "Jimmy Jumshade" <jimmybug@rocketmail.com>, "Claudette Konola" <Konola@Bresnan.net>, phayes9402@comcast.net
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


So you haven't seen much CHANGE? Do you still HOPE for it? I'd rather have a politician get elected and do nothing about our situation than one get elected on the premise of doing something but whom still never does. At least then I wouldn't feel blatantly lied to. It's not as if I'm not going to feel lied to anyway, but at least the situation could be KEPT AT BAY by not doing anything versus someone promising to FIX IT and then just adding more and more to it anyway.




From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Thanks, Tom. It has been years since I read any Neitsche and found him dark back then. I really have not studied Marx.
I have knowledge of his theories, but have not found them to be realistic.

Tried reading Hegel once in college, had a crush on a boy who was crazy for him, but never found it my cup of tea.

What are the specifics of what Obama is doing that lead you to say we are in a totalitarian regime ?

I am concerned about several things that are going on with this administration, but the these things are continuations of what
was begun in the Bush administration.








From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>

Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 11:36:46 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Judy, Those 4 philosophers had an extremely negative outlook on mankind and particularly of what they considered the "ruling class'. They all believed, in various degrees and small personal deviations, that a man was shaped by his work but that pleasure and happiness were determined by that ruling class and that the proletariat (the workers) had no choice in determining happiness or good. If he who controlled the means of production decided that workers would be happiest in taking one bath a month, it became the rule. That's why Marx, for example, predicted a proletariat revolution as those of the lower class faced a life of disappointment and frustration and that the revolution is inevitable. The failure of their philosophy is in understanding that replacing a royalty or a "corporation" or a monarch with a totalitarian government is only replacing one "ruling class" for another. A fallacy which we see full bore in the present administration as well.

They definitely didn't espouse the golden rule, far from it, and the USSR under Stalin is the closest I can come to the fulfillment of their philosophy, (Of course, Obama is certainly in the running today), although in reality, the 1917 Revolution ONLY proved that even the proletariat, when successful in their revolt and becoming the ruling class themselves inflicted just as much pain and suffering on a new proletariat or those of their former class who were left behind. Of course, as I wrote in a different post, faith and hope are anathema to the existence of any totalitarian sutocracy, whatever flavor you choose.

Tom

ARMY STRONG!! This We'll Defend.

From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:38 AM
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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


"Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be."

Bear


From what some of the posters on this e-mail string are writing, it does seem you are correct, Bear.

I had been aware that people like that existed, but I rarely meet anyone like that.

I certainly have not talked to anyone before who espouses a white separatist viewpoint like some on this list do.

One of the reasons we chose to live where we live was because of the racial diversity.
And the area I live in has only become much more racially and ethnically diverse.

In addition to my son's first friend who was black, one of my daughter's pre-school pals was Muslim with a white dad
and a mom from Singapore (she was really interesting). Currently, each of my kids have a varied group of friends,
with daughter being close to a girl with Pakistani heritage, and my son with a boy whose family comes from India , and is
Hindu.

In my job, I see children and people from all over the world.
Everyone I work with treats them all with respect. If anyone is hating any of these children, they are certainly keeping it to themselves.

Also, Tom, what are you saying that Neitsche, Marx, Hegel and Engel believed? The Golden Rule? Or that we as a species will never follow the golden rule?

Many cultures have a version of the golden rule.. I had a poster once, it was decades old and it had all the
different versions printed on it. I put it on the refrigerator when my kids were little. Now there is an organization that
has done the same thing. It is just such a basic way of thinking that helps prevent problems from

And somehow, a crucial part of this discussion has been omitted, the part where JimmyJumshade spoke of racism as a natural defense mechanism created by nature, or something like that. It was his coment that I replied to.

Several passages in the New Testament quote Jesus of Nazareth espousing the golden rule, including the following:
Matthew 7:12
12Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Luke 6:31
31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
Luke 10:25-28
25And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 26He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? 27And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. 28And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
The passage in the book of Luke then continues with Jesus answering the question, "Who is my neighbor?", by telling the parable of the Good Samaritan, indicating that "your neighbour" means a total stranger, or someone that happens to be nearby. Jesus' teaching, however, goes beyond the negative formulation of not doing what one would not like done to themselves, to the positive formulation of actively doing good to another that, if the situations were reversed, one would desire that the other would do for them. This formulation, as indicated in the parable of the Good Samaritan, emphasises the needs for positive action that brings benefit to another, not simply restraining oneself from negative activities that hurt another. Taken as a rule of judgement, both formulations of the golden rule, the negative and positive, are equally applicable.[25]




From: gary beauregard <beau@gcbussu.com>
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 9:56:54 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be.

Bear

--- On Sun, 12/6/09, Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 10:19 AM
Actually Nietsche, Hegel, Marx, and Engel believed that..

Tom

ARMY STRONG!! This We'll Defend.

From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

So, you are saying that as a species we can never treat each other as we would like to be treated, with understanding, love
and respect?

I don't think this is what you mean, but it is coming off that way.

Why accept things as they are? Actually, new ideas are rarely accepted quickly. Of course the idea of racial equality
has been around for quite some time but it is clear not everyone has gotten the memo!

You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature? Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten. They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together. My son
is white and the first friend was black. My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy. He simply
enjoyed his company.




From: Jimmy Jumshade <jimmybug@rocketmail.com>
To: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>; phayes9402@comcast.net; Judy Hayner <edpals2@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 11:09:36 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 8:43 AM
Claudette, Patty seems to have focused an unimportant aspect of your note, which made an excellent point about
the fear behind the rationalization of racism.

And while I'm sure she didn't intend this, her comment enabled Predator then to put down the French ...

Another on this list has decried blocking the racist component on this list as censorship and against
freedom of speech.

If I have learned one thing by being on this list, it is that arguing with people only polarizes their positions. It does not change anyone's mind.

I suspect those who deny the majority of people on earth their humanity will only be cheered if they upset us.

I do not feel it is my duty to provide them with a forum for their fear and hatreds.

I agree with you there is no point in attempting discussion with them, and I take them off the list every time I send an
e-mail.

If the rest of you wish to argue with them and give their positions credibility, that is your right.




From: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:25:02 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Patty, what did I ever do to you to make you hate me so much? You seem to have this need to challenge everything I write. This one is just silly.

Claudette is a French name. http://www.behindthename.com/name/claudette

CLAUDETTE
Gender: Feminine
Usage: French
Pronounced: klo-DET [key]
French feminine form of CLAUDIUS

Konola is a very common Finnish Name. In fact if you google "Konola" you will find that most of the information that comes up is about a Finnish racing team, a well known Finnish artist, and an Nokia executive-in Finland.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBR_enUS274US274&q=Konola


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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

I'm curious as to how someone could tell that Claudette Konola is of French and Finnish descent. Maybe I'm just missing something but it doesn't appear that obvious to me.

Patty
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Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you, and your E-mails are going into my junk mail box where they are automatically deleted so long as you continue to send them. You are trying to look rational, but to me you are scared shitless that you may have to share power with people of color. By the way, you should be able to see from my name that my ethnic background is French and Finnish. I am a white woman who hopes there are no other white women willing to breed with the likes of you.

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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

So - you have great hostility toward White People - right?

Nobody else ever does bad - it's just white people

You probably applaude when black power raises it's ugly fist as they did in washington state lately and killed some police officers - and when laraza trys to take over America and even they murder black people in the LA area (have you heard?)

Did you hear about the blacks that broke into a wichita home and after forcing the white women to do all kinds of things for them and to each other - almost all of the white people there were killed. Of course that's okay too - right?

I used to know a guy named grant bruer - he said and correctly that blacks are a very basic people and are wired for the congo . He said they couldn't change that if htey wanted to and I believe he was right. Living in a refined decent society is beyond them.

John Hansen

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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Lordy.
Third world citizens have no value, they can't buy our goods. . .
The rest of the sentence doesn't say much, but that part says a big mouthful. Talk about a prejudice-- there's one in spades. And don't try to pin it on Predator as "his" prejudice-- he didn't make that up. All he did is give voice to one of our economic/cultural assumptions.

You could say our attitude has improved a little bit in recent years, though. Now we think they have at least a little bit of value-- as cheap labor..
Regards,
Al J
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In a message dated 12/4/2009 8:35:56 AM Central Standard Time, vivaveridad@yahoo.ca writes:
Why is one American child more valuable than 450 -750 third world children?
Third world citizens have no value, they can't buy our goods, they are on the global dole, and what have they ever contributed to any society?




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This list has been too fruitful and over multiplied.

In a message dated 12/6/2009 8:34:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jmach499@yahoo.com writes:
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You must live in a very primitive neighbourhood.


My daughter's friends were a wonderful colourful lot when she was growing up. All full of good, healthy fun. I do believe the "little girl" from New Orleans - as she was then - was the most polite. A little lady.








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I wouldn't let a kid of mine do anything with one of the other races - the next think you know if he is male he will be DEAD and if femail beaten and pregnant.

To put them in that kind of danger is child abuse.
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<<<You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature? Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten. They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together. My son
is white and the first friend was black. My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy. He simply
enjoyed his company. >>>



Actually, "racism" was created by jews, not nature.

Do you know why the word is not in Scripture. There WAS no such concept in the entire Holy Bible, and in fact God punished Solomon severely for NOT being a racist, when he married the Egyptian daughter of the pharaoh:

And King Solomon loved many foreign [nikro, Strong's #5237] women, even the daughter of Pharaoh, Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians, Hittites; 1 Kings 11:1
Did not Solomon king of Israel sin by these things? yet among many nations was there no king like him, and he was beloved of his God, and God made him king over all Israel: nevertheless even him did foreign [nikro, Strong's #5237] women cause to sin. Nehemiah 13:26-27
http://fathersmanifesto.net/sin.htm

Do you know why it's not in the Declaration of Independence or the US Constitution? Because the word "racism" wasn't even coined until a century and a half after it was ratified, and even then it meant something the exact opposite of the way you're using it (it was equated to being a nationalist, or patriot, not necessarily bad traits).

There are more definitions of this word than there are people in the US. To a jew in Russia, a racist is a Russian who claims that only descendants of the Rus are Russians, which jews in Russia know they are not. To a jew in "Israel", a racist is a jew from Russia who they claim are "Russians pretending to be jews". When these "Israelis" then come to the US, they consider a "racist" to be one who upholds EXISTING immigration laws. Thus, to NOT be a racist to them, you must be a criminal or an outlaw. To a nigger in Africa, a racist is an American nigger, but to an American nigger, a racist is a WHITE man who simply wants to associate only with his own.

Of course it's ok for jews, niggers, and Mexican to be racists--it's only us honkies who can't.

John Knight







From: "Mr. Dinga" <mrdinga@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 6:29 PM
To: "Judy Hayner" <edpals2@yahoo.com>, "Tom" <boldsaber@gmail.com>, "gary beauregard" <beau@gcbussu..com>, "Jimmy Jumshade" <jimmybug@rocketmail.com>, "Claudette Konola" <Konola@Bresnan.net>, phayes9402@comcast.net
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


So you haven't seen much CHANGE? Do you still HOPE for it? I'd rather have a politician get elected and do nothing about our situation than one get elected on the premise of doing something but whom still never does. At least then I wouldn't feel blatantly lied to. It's not as if I'm not going to feel lied to anyway, but at least the situation could be KEPT AT BAY by not doing anything versus someone promising to FIX IT and then just adding more and more to it anyway.




From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Thanks, Tom. It has been years since I read any Neitsche and found him dark back then. I really have not studied Marx.
I have knowledge of his theories, but have not found them to be realistic.

Tried reading Hegel once in college, had a crush on a boy who was crazy for him, but never found it my cup of tea.

What are the specifics of what Obama is doing that lead you to say we are in a totalitarian regime ?

I am concerned about several things that are going on with this administration, but the these things are continuations of what
was begun in the Bush administration.








From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>

Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 11:36:46 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Judy, Those 4 philosophers had an extremely negative outlook on mankind and particularly of what they considered the "ruling class'. They all believed, in various degrees and small personal deviations, that a man was shaped by his work but that pleasure and happiness were determined by that ruling class and that the proletariat (the workers) had no choice in determining happiness or good. If he who controlled the means of production decided that workers would be happiest in taking one bath a month, it became the rule. That's why Marx, for example, predicted a proletariat revolution as those of the lower class faced a life of disappointment and frustration and that the revolution is inevitable. The failure of their philosophy is in understanding that replacing a royalty or a "corporation" or a monarch with a totalitarian government is only replacing one "ruling class" for another. A fallacy which we see full bore in the present administration as well.

They definitely didn't espouse the golden rule, far from it, and the USSR under Stalin is the closest I can come to the fulfillment of their philosophy, (Of course, Obama is certainly in the running today), although in reality, the 1917 Revolution ONLY proved that even the proletariat, when successful in their revolt and becoming the ruling class themselves inflicted just as much pain and suffering on a new proletariat or those of their former class who were left behind. Of course, as I wrote in a different post, faith and hope are anathema to the existence of any totalitarian sutocracy, whatever flavor you choose.

Tom

ARMY STRONG!! This We'll Defend.

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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


"Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be."

Bear


From what some of the posters on this e-mail string are writing, it does seem you are correct, Bear.

I had been aware that people like that existed, but I rarely meet anyone like that.

I certainly have not talked to anyone before who espouses a white separatist viewpoint like some on this list do.

One of the reasons we chose to live where we live was because of the racial diversity.
And the area I live in has only become much more racially and ethnically diverse.

In addition to my son's first friend who was black, one of my daughter's pre-school pals was Muslim with a white dad
and a mom from Singapore (she was really interesting). Currently, each of my kids have a varied group of friends,
with daughter being close to a girl with Pakistani heritage, and my son with a boy whose family comes from India , and is
Hindu.

In my job, I see children and people from all over the world.
Everyone I work with treats them all with respect. If anyone is hating any of these children, they are certainly keeping it to themselves.

Also, Tom, what are you saying that Neitsche, Marx, Hegel and Engel believed? The Golden Rule? Or that we as a species will never follow the golden rule?

Many cultures have a version of the golden rule.. I had a poster once, it was decades old and it had all the
different versions printed on it. I put it on the refrigerator when my kids were little. Now there is an organization that
has done the same thing. It is just such a basic way of thinking that helps prevent problems from

And somehow, a crucial part of this discussion has been omitted, the part where JimmyJumshade spoke of racism as a natural defense mechanism created by nature, or something like that. It was his coment that I replied to.

Several passages in the New Testament quote Jesus of Nazareth espousing the golden rule, including the following:
Matthew 7:12
12Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Luke 6:31
31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
Luke 10:25-28
25And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 26He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? 27And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. 28And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
The passage in the book of Luke then continues with Jesus answering the question, "Who is my neighbor?", by telling the parable of the Good Samaritan, indicating that "your neighbour" means a total stranger, or someone that happens to be nearby. Jesus' teaching, however, goes beyond the negative formulation of not doing what one would not like done to themselves, to the positive formulation of actively doing good to another that, if the situations were reversed, one would desire that the other would do for them. This formulation, as indicated in the parable of the Good Samaritan, emphasises the needs for positive action that brings benefit to another, not simply restraining oneself from negative activities that hurt another. Taken as a rule of judgement, both formulations of the golden rule, the negative and positive, are equally applicable.[25]




From: gary beauregard <beau@gcbussu.com>
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 9:56:54 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be.

Bear

--- On Sun, 12/6/09, Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 10:19 AM
Actually Nietsche, Hegel, Marx, and Engel believed that..

Tom

ARMY STRONG!! This We'll Defend.

From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

So, you are saying that as a species we can never treat each other as we would like to be treated, with understanding, love
and respect?

I don't think this is what you mean, but it is coming off that way.

Why accept things as they are? Actually, new ideas are rarely accepted quickly. Of course the idea of racial equality
has been around for quite some time but it is clear not everyone has gotten the memo!

You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature? Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten. They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together. My son
is white and the first friend was black. My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy. He simply
enjoyed his company.




From: Jimmy Jumshade <jimmybug@rocketmail.com>
To: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>; phayes9402@comcast.net; Judy Hayner <edpals2@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 11:09:36 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 8:43 AM
Claudette, Patty seems to have focused an unimportant aspect of your note, which made an excellent point about
the fear behind the rationalization of racism.

And while I'm sure she didn't intend this, her comment enabled Predator then to put down the French ...

Another on this list has decried blocking the racist component on this list as censorship and against
freedom of speech.

If I have learned one thing by being on this list, it is that arguing with people only polarizes their positions. It does not change anyone's mind.

I suspect those who deny the majority of people on earth their humanity will only be cheered if they upset us.

I do not feel it is my duty to provide them with a forum for their fear and hatreds.

I agree with you there is no point in attempting discussion with them, and I take them off the list every time I send an
e-mail.

If the rest of you wish to argue with them and give their positions credibility, that is your right.




From: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:25:02 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Patty, what did I ever do to you to make you hate me so much? You seem to have this need to challenge everything I write. This one is just silly.

Claudette is a French name. http://www.behindthename.com/name/claudette

CLAUDETTE
Gender: Feminine
Usage: French
Pronounced: klo-DET [key]
French feminine form of CLAUDIUS

Konola is a very common Finnish Name. In fact if you google "Konola" you will find that most of the information that comes up is about a Finnish racing team, a well known Finnish artist, and an Nokia executive-in Finland.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBR_enUS274US274&q=Konola


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Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 8:03 AM
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I'm curious as to how someone could tell that Claudette Konola is of French and Finnish descent. Maybe I'm just missing something but it doesn't appear that obvious to me.

Patty
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Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you, and your E-mails are going into my junk mail box where they are automatically deleted so long as you continue to send them. You are trying to look rational, but to me you are scared shitless that you may have to share power with people of color. By the way, you should be able to see from my name that my ethnic background is French and Finnish. I am a white woman who hopes there are no other white women willing to breed with the likes of you.

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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

So - you have great hostility toward White People - right?

Nobody else ever does bad - it's just white people

You probably applaude when black power raises it's ugly fist as they did in washington state lately and killed some police officers - and when laraza trys to take over America and even they murder black people in the LA area (have you heard?)

Did you hear about the blacks that broke into a wichita home and after forcing the white women to do all kinds of things for them and to each other - almost all of the white people there were killed. Of course that's okay too - right?

I used to know a guy named grant bruer - he said and correctly that blacks are a very basic people and are wired for the congo . He said they couldn't change that if htey wanted to and I believe he was right. Living in a refined decent society is beyond them.

John Hansen

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Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Lordy.
Third world citizens have no value, they can't buy our goods. . .
The rest of the sentence doesn't say much, but that part says a big mouthful. Talk about a prejudice-- there's one in spades. And don't try to pin it on Predator as "his" prejudice-- he didn't make that up. All he did is give voice to one of our economic/cultural assumptions.

You could say our attitude has improved a little bit in recent years, though. Now we think they have at least a little bit of value-- as cheap labor..
Regards,
Al J
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From: PredatorBC@aol.com
Sent: Fri, Dec 4, 2009 10:13 am
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
In a message dated 12/4/2009 8:35:56 AM Central Standard Time, vivaveridad@yahoo.ca writes:
Why is one American child more valuable than 450 -750 third world children?
Third world citizens have no value, they can't buy our goods, they are on the global dole, and what have they ever contributed to any society?




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Did it ever occur to you that maybe God thinks your an asshole?

WHOA! The truth is that EVERYONE is a horrible sinner in the eyes of God, EVERYONE.

But ask yourself this....

WHY should God help you?

You disrespect Him. You sin against His laws. You show absolutely no interest in God or what God wants.

Why the blazes would God ever want to help you? (or me or anyone)

How about trying this?

How about first showing -- not as a scam or only for a moment, but sincerely -- that you want to be RECONCILED to God, and you WANT TO SHOW God that you are sorry.

God is not a VENDING MACHINE. You can't put a prayer in the coin slot and have whatever you choose come out the vending machine bin.

If you reconcile with God, God might still NEVER do anything for you. NEVER. NOTHING.

But he might help you. If he He feels like it. MAYBE.

Jack Stone




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On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Joe Thompson <joet40@charter.net> wrote:

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I don't know about the rest of you, but when I try to contact God, Allah, Buddha or any of those others supreme beings I receive messages back like these.

This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason:

Each of the following recipients was rejected by a remote mail server.
The reasons given by the server are included to help you determine why
each recipient was rejected.
Reason: 5.1.1 unknown or illegal alias:
Access denied to this site.
Not a valid address.
No longer accepting mail from this address.
Broken link, try again.

This has been going on for 69 years. So I've quit trying. I think Israel gave up a long time ago too and turned to Washington to protect and help them. Washington doesn't send them messages like those above.

It's more like.
Message received.
Help is on the way.

Joe T


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Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


<<<Jacob (aka ISRAEL)'s favorite son JOSEPH, of the famous story in Egypt, MARRIED AN EGYPTIAN WOMAN, THE DAUGHTER OF AN EGYPTIAN PRIEST 2 sons, Ephraim and Manasseh, clearly Israelites, are the sons of an EGYPTIAN woman.>>>


First of all, Israelites are a PATRIARCHY where lineage and inheritance follows the father, not the mother, something you feminized matriarchal sodomite edomite kikes pretending to be "jews" will never, ever grasp.

Second of all, there WERE no Israelites around when Joseph was looking for a wife, but it's clear that neither Canaanite women nor Egyptian women were acceptable racial stock to either God, Abraham, or Jacob:

Gen 24:3
And I will make thee swear by the LORD, the God of heaven, and the God of the earth, that thou shalt not take a wife unto my son of the daughters of the Canaanites, among whom I dwell:
Gen 24:4
But thou shalt go unto my country, and to my kindred [who are Syrians, not Assyrians], and take a wife unto my son Isaac.


But most of all, this daughter of the Priest of On was not even an Egyptian--she was a descendant of Abraham, which Egyptians are NOT.

And lastly, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob HATED Egyptians, otherwise why would He destroy all of their firstborn sons but NOT those of His holy people, the House of Israel? And why would He bless mamzer offspring of an Egyptian woman and Joseph when He went to so much trouble to remove the mixed multitude when the Israelites left Egypt?

John Knight





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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?




If John Knight is writing an email, he is lying about what the Bible says.

It's a formula..... creating his own Bible by CHANGING the Bible.

Jacob (aka ISRAEL)'s favorite son JOSEPH, of the famous story in Egypt, MARRIED AN EGYPTIAN WOMAN, THE DAUGHTER OF AN EGYPTIAN PRIEST


Joseph's 2 sons, Ephraim and Manasseh, clearly Israelites, are the sons of an EGYPTIAN woman.

Genesis 46:20
Now to Joseph in the land of Egypt were born Manasseh and Ephraim, whom Asenath, the daughter of Potiphera, priest of On, bore to him.

1 Kings 11
Solomon Turns from God
1Now (A)King Solomon loved many foreign women along with the daughter of Pharaoh: Moabite, Ammonite, Edomite, Sidonian, and Hittite women,
2from the nations concerning which the LORD had said to the sons of Israel, "(B)You shall not associate with them, nor shall they associate with you, for they will surely turn your heart away after their gods." Solomon held fast to these in love.
3(C)He had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines, and his wives turned his heart away.
4For when Solomon was old, his wives turned his heart away after other gods; and (D)his heart was not [a]wholly devoted to the LORD his God, as the heart of David his father had been.
5For Solomon went after (E)Ashtoreth the goddess of the Sidonians and after (F)Milcom the detestable idol of the Ammonites.


Jack Stone


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On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Jacob Israel <jk@kensingtonmicro.com> wrote:

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<<<You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature? Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten. They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together. My son
is white and the first friend was black. My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy. He simply
enjoyed his company. >>>



Actually, "racism" was created by jews, not nature.

Do you know why the word is not in Scripture. There WAS no such concept in the entire Holy Bible, and in fact God punished Solomon severely for NOT being a racist, when he married the Egyptian daughter of the pharaoh:

And King Solomon loved many foreign [nikro, Strong's #5237] women, even the daughter of Pharaoh, Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians, Hittites; 1 Kings 11:1
Did not Solomon king of Israel sin by these things? yet among many nations was there no king like him, and he was beloved of his God, and God made him king over all Israel: nevertheless even him did foreign [nikro, Strong's #5237] women cause to sin. Nehemiah 13:26-27
http://fathersmanifesto.net/sin.htm

Do you know why it's not in the Declaration of Independence or the US Constitution? Because the word "racism" wasn't even coined until a century and a half after it was ratified, and even then it meant something the exact opposite of the way you're using it (it was equated to being a nationalist, or patriot, not necessarily bad traits).

There are more definitions of this word than there are people in the US. To a jew in Russia, a racist is a Russian who claims that only descendants of the Rus are Russians, which jews in Russia know they are not. To a jew in "Israel", a racist is a jew from Russia who they claim are "Russians pretending to be jews". When these "Israelis" then come to the US, they consider a "racist" to be one who upholds EXISTING immigration laws. Thus, to NOT be a racist to them, you must be a criminal or an outlaw. To a nigger in Africa, a racist is an American nigger, but to an American nigger, a racist is a WHITE man who simply wants to associate only with his own.

Of course it's ok for jews, niggers, and Mexican to be racists--it's only us honkies who can't.

John Knight







From: "Mr. Dinga" <mrdinga@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 6:29 PM
To: "Judy Hayner" <edpals2@yahoo.com>, "Tom" <boldsaber@gmail.com>, "gary beauregard" <beau@gcbussu.com>, "Jimmy Jumshade" <jimmybug@rocketmail.com>, "Claudette Konola" <Konola@Bresnan.net>, phayes9402@comcast.net

Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?



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So you haven't seen much CHANGE? Do you still HOPE for it? I'd rather have a politician get elected and do nothing about our situation than one get elected on the premise of doing something but whom still never does. At least then I wouldn't feel blatantly lied to. It's not as if I'm not going to feel lied to anyway, but at least the situation could be KEPT AT BAY by not doing anything versus someone promising to FIX IT and then just adding more and more to it anyway.




From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:15 PM

Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

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Thanks, Tom. It has been years since I read any Neitsche and found him dark back then. I really have not studied Marx.
I have knowledge of his theories, but have not found them to be realistic.

Tried reading Hegel once in college, had a crush on a boy who was crazy for him, but never found it my cup of tea.

What are the specifics of what Obama is doing that lead you to say we are in a totalitarian regime ?

I am concerned about several things that are going on with this administration, but the these things are continuations of what
was begun in the Bush administration.








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From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>

Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 11:36:46 AM

Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
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Judy, Those 4 philosophers had an extremely negative outlook on mankind and particularly of what they considered the "ruling class'. They all believed, in various degrees and small personal deviations, that a man was shaped by his work but that pleasure and happiness were determined by that ruling class and that the proletariat (the workers) had no choice in determining happiness or good. If he who controlled the means of production decided that workers would be happiest in taking one bath a month, it became the rule. That's why Marx, for example, predicted a proletariat revolution as those of the lower class faced a life of disappointment and frustration and that the revolution is inevitable. The failure of their philosophy is in understanding that replacing a royalty or a "corporation" or a monarch with a totalitarian government is only replacing one "ruling class" for another. A fallacy which we see full bore in the present administration as well.

They definitely didn't espouse the golden rule, far from it, and the USSR under Stalin is the closest I can come to the fulfillment of their philosophy, (Of course, Obama is certainly in the running today), although in reality, the 1917 Revolution ONLY proved that even the proletariat, when successful in their revolt and becoming the ruling class themselves inflicted just as much pain and suffering on a new proletariat or those of their former class who were left behind. Of course, as I wrote in a different post, faith and hope are anathema to the existence of any totalitarian sutocracy, whatever flavor you choose.

Tom

ARMY STRONG!! This We'll Defend.

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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

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"Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be."

Bear


From what some of the posters on this e-mail string are writing, it does seem you are correct, Bear.

I had been aware that people like that existed, but I rarely meet anyone like that.

I certainly have not talked to anyone before who espouses a white separatist viewpoint like some on this list do.

One of the reasons we chose to live where we live was because of the racial diversity.
And the area I live in has only become much more racially and ethnically diverse.

In addition to my son's first friend who was black, one of my daughter's pre-school pals was Muslim with a white dad
and a mom from Singapore (she was really interesting). Currently, each of my kids have a varied group of friends,
with daughter being close to a girl with Pakistani heritage, and my son with a boy whose family comes from India, and is
Hindu.

In my job, I see children and people from all over the world.
Everyone I work with treats them all with respect. If anyone is hating any of these children, they are certainly keeping it to themselves.

Also, Tom, what are you saying that Neitsche, Marx, Hegel and Engel believed? The Golden Rule? Or that we as a species will never follow the golden rule?

Many cultures have a version of the golden rule. I had a poster once, it was decades old and it had all the
different versions printed on it. I put it on the refrigerator when my kids were little. Now there is an organization that
has done the same thing. It is just such a basic way of thinking that helps prevent problems from

And somehow, a crucial part of this discussion has been omitted, the part where JimmyJumshade spoke of racism as a natural defense mechanism created by nature, or something like that. It was his coment that I replied to.

Several passages in the New Testament quote Jesus of Nazareth espousing the golden rule, including the following:
Matthew 7:12
12Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Luke 6:31
31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
Luke 10:25-28
25And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 26He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? 27And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. 28And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
The passage in the book of Luke then continues with Jesus answering the question, "Who is my neighbor?", by telling the parable of the Good Samaritan, indicating that "your neighbour" means a total stranger, or someone that happens to be nearby. Jesus' teaching, however, goes beyond the negative formulation of not doing what one would not like done to themselves, to the positive formulation of actively doing good to another that, if the situations were reversed, one would desire that the other would do for them. This formulation, as indicated in the parable of the Good Samaritan, emphasises the needs for positive action that brings benefit to another, not simply restraining oneself from negative activities that hurt another. Taken as a rule of judgement, both formulations of the golden rule, the negative and positive, are equally applicable.[25]

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From: gary beauregard <beau@gcbussu.com>
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 9:56:54 AM
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Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be.

Bear

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From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 10:19 AM
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Actually Nietsche, Hegel, Marx, and Engel believed that.

Tom

ARMY STRONG!! This We'll Defend.

From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:44 PM
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So, you are saying that as a species we can never treat each other as we would like to be treated, with understanding, love
and respect?

I don't think this is what you mean, but it is coming off that way.

Why accept things as they are? Actually, new ideas are rarely accepted quickly. Of course the idea of racial equality
has been around for quite some time but it is clear not everyone has gotten the memo!

You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature? Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten. They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together. My son
is white and the first friend was black. My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy. He simply
enjoyed his company.

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From: Jimmy Jumshade <jimmybug@rocketmail.com>
To: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>; phayes9402@comcast.net; Judy Hayner <edpals2@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 11:09:36 AM
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Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 8:43 AM
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Claudette, Patty seems to have focused an unimportant aspect of your note, which made an excellent point about
the fear behind the rationalization of racism.

And while I'm sure she didn't intend this, her comment enabled Predator then to put down the French ...

Another on this list has decried blocking the racist component on this list as censorship and against
freedom of speech.

If I have learned one thing by being on this list, it is that arguing with people only polarizes their positions. It does not change anyone's mind.

I suspect those who deny the majority of people on earth their humanity will only be cheered if they upset us.

I do not feel it is my duty to provide them with a forum for their fear and hatreds.

I agree with you there is no point in attempting discussion with them, and I take them off the list every time I send an
e-mail.

If the rest of you wish to argue with them and give their positions credibility, that is your right.

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From: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:25:02 AM
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Patty, what did I ever do to you to make you hate me so much? You seem to have this need to challenge everything I write. This one is just silly.

Claudette is a French name. http://www.behindthename.com/name/claudette

CLAUDETTE
Gender: Feminine
Usage: French
Pronounced: klo-DET [key]
French feminine form of CLAUDIUS

Konola is a very common Finnish Name. In fact if you google "Konola" you will find that most of the information that comes up is about a Finnish racing team, a well known Finnish artist, and an Nokia executive-in Finland.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBR_enUS274US274&q=Konola


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I'm curious as to how someone could tell that Claudette Konola is of French and Finnish descent. Maybe I'm just missing something but it doesn't appear that obvious to me.

Patty
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John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you, and your E-mails are going into my junk mail box where they are automatically deleted so long as you continue to send them. You are trying to look rational, but to me you are scared shitless that you may have to share power with people of color. By the way, you should be able to see from my name that my ethnic background is French and Finnish. I am a white woman who hopes there are no other white women willing to breed with the likes of you.

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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

So - you have great hostility toward White People - right?

Nobody else ever does bad - it's just white people

You probably applaude when black power raises it's ugly fist as they did in washington state lately and killed some police officers - and when laraza trys to take over America and even they murder black people in the LA area (have you heard?)

Did you hear about the blacks that broke into a wichita home and after forcing the white women to do all kinds of things for them and to each other - almost all of the white people there were killed. Of course that's okay too - right?


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That's funny. Alan Higgins sound white to me - are you a "self hating white?"
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Rofl.

I would say that's what jews say whites did
Thank you for being such a classic example of a white man talkin' about a minority. :-)
And my pinkish-beige Protestant ancestors are rolling on the clouds of heaven laughing at your question, too.
Al J





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Sent: Fri, Dec 4, 2009 9:28 am
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I wouldn't say they did much harm to other minorities - I would say that's what jews say whites did (when they were the main slave procurers and traders) and what minorities latched onto - to keep feeding from the public assistance and sympathy trough. You are a jew aren't you Algae.
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I think it's just that whites, having done what they did to other minorities, have vivid imaginations about what those others might do to them if they became the minority.





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From: John Machado <jmach499@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:51 pm
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Why would whites have to catch up ...?? Is it a contest???

How about non-English speaking asparagus growers .. ?? should they be allowed to catch up .. too??







From: John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 10:14:55 PM

Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?



The only problem with limiting all people to 1 or 2 children is that non whites have been outbreeding whites by a 20 - 1 margin for decades or even generations now.

Therefore there should be no restictions on Whites unti they reasonably catch up.

Second - you mention te damage 1.5% do to the planet while the rest are innocent.

I submit that overbreeding and polluting with excess people is far more danage that that 1.5% could possibly do..

Turks in Germany, Arabs in Norway, all in England and many in France - the overbreeders are polluting all countries and ruining the planet.

John Hansen
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Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:28 AM
Subject: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


Human behavior spreads quickly, especially negative behavior. What the settlers were doing in the US in the 1880s with bison and the poor passenger pigeon is now being perpetrated on species all over the globe. In other words, you're absolutely correct that it is only 5% of the planet's population committing these negative practices today, but if you hadn't noticed, the mega populations on other continents are doing their best to catch up and pass the gross offenders in consumption, pollution, killing and destruction. It's a war declared on the planet by a bible chapter named Genesis, ironically enough.

The masses in China, India and Africa have created less than 1.5% of the problem; the perpetrators in the US, Europe and Japan have created 98.5% of the problem.

What to do? Again, worldwide, limit each family to one or two children, everywhere. Stop all genetic monkeying with ALL species (including plants, germs, animals, and humans) on the planet. Educate children, worldwide, to take care of our planetary home as a first priority so that it can continue to take care of us. No 'human ingenuity' needed or desired, thank you; there's no way to have the cake and eat it, too.

Every step we take in this direction will help mammals gain as long a run on the planet as dinosaurs had; every step we take in the opposite direction brings mammalian existence closer to the big die-off coming soon to a theater near you. I can see it as one of those big special effects epics Emmerich puts out--yannow, a megabudget 'The Day After Tomorrow' or '2012' type production. In fact, I think I should work up a premise document and submit it for the next producers' review.. Any of you guys want to help me pitch it?

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From: John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: To be celibate is unnatural? Absolutely!
Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 5:57 AM


You're right on both counts. Some have exploited and abuse the earth and it's resources and there are still far too many people on the planet. Uncontrolled breeding such as in india, mexico and africa (and other places such as indonesia) will take us all down.
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Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 2:23 AM
Subject: Re: To be celibate is unnatural? Absolutely!


You and I are on skew lines of thought. Bear with me.

Humans in excess of 1.5 billion have generated a huge die-off of other species. This is incontrovertible fact.
The population of the world hit 1.5 billion in the late 1800's, and was about 1.6 billion in 1900. It has been human behavior, however, that's done the damage, not the number. Nor was the behavior driven by demands created by the total population. The near-extinction of the American bison in the 1880's is a classic example of a die-off perpetrated by a very small fraction of the population of America at the time, and to the benefit of only a small fraction of the population of America and Europe at the time. It was moreover driven by commercial considerations, not by any demands on the environment due to the total number of people in the world. If you look at other die-offs in modern times, you will find that many of them similarly stem from the behavior of a relatively small portion of the total population in the region of the die-off, and that their behavior was not ultimately "population-driven".

The US, with 5% of the world's population, uses/consumes 25% of the world's resources. The associated environmental damage is plainly not due to the population of the world. It plainly is due to the commercial behavior of that small fraction-- 5%-- of the world population, and not even all of that 5% if you look more closely..

That is not to say the world hasn't gotten over-populated; it has, and I think disastrously so. But the association of human impact on the environment with the total population is false and misleading, and misleading to some terrible social consequences. Overly generalizing: A minority of the world's population has had and used their power to affect the world so negatively. That same minority is promoting the idea that the sheer number of people-- "everybody"-- is to blame, instead of themselves and their idiot behaviors. It ultimately leads a full step beyond the Nazi concept of "useless eaters" to the idea of "damaging eaters". There's hell to pay down that road.

Regards,
Al J





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Sent: Wed, Dec 2, 2009 10:28 pm
Subject: Re: To be celibate is unnatural? Absolutely!


Humans in excess of 1.5 billion have generated a huge die-off of other species. This is incontrovertible fact.

Yes, it might be possible for humans to create favorable living conditions--for more humans--and chalk that up to 'human ingenuity' but it wouldn't be a win-win for the Earth. The Earth thrives on biodiversity, and more humans means fewer species.

For example, ADM and other huge multinational agribusiness conglomerates are promoting single-species bioengineered foodstuff vaireties for planting worldwide, displacing the rich panoply of existing plant species. This might feed more people, but it certainly will have a long-term, extremely negative impact on the planet. In fact, I can just about hear Mother Nature hanging out in her kitchen cooking up some nasty boll weevil or other natural fix to cripple genetically engineered biomasses.

Ultimately, the planet will out, of course. Maybe it will be as dramatic as the sudden die-off of the dinosaurs (which took most other life forms of that time with them) or not; my guess is that the faster we reproduce and rip into the planet's resources, the faster we will extinct ourselves...

So, I go back to the only responsible solution I can think of--especially for developed nations--have one child, maybe two. Make a living will to avoid going on life-support. Use as lttle as you can of the earth's resources while you're here, and teach upcoming generations to use even less.





On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:30 PM, <algae5636@aol.com> wrote:

I agree with much of what you say, Nora, but not this:

The Earth can tolerate only so many humans, the same way it can tolerate only so many squirrels or big cats. The Earth is about balance; too much of anything is bad. Six and a half billion humans is about five billion too many for the planet to tolerate under normal conditions. (And that's not just my opinion; ask any biologist.)
What is unique about us humans is our ability to alter the environment to support more of us. It is consequently fallacious to presume to say what population the planet can tolerate under "normal conditions", when what's normal is altering our environment to support more of us.

I won't argue "in favor" of the present population. Six and a half billion people is unquestionably an overload while we're going about living the way we are. We waste resources at an appalling rate, and arguably waste people even worse. It is outright false, however, for anybody, biologists included, to say the world can only tolerate one and a half billion people. That assumes an artifical limit on-- or totally ignores-- human creativity and problem-solving ability.

Besides that, buying into that idea sets people up for the next thought to be about "who shouldn't be here". . .. and guess what.. The pragmatic answer to that is, those who are most wasteful-- and guess what again. Exactly the people, cultures and countries that think they're the most civilized and technologically advanced are the most wasteful. And yup-- those are the very same people who came up with the billion and a half figure in the first place. So ya see, if they're right, and the problem is as bad as they say, then it is urgent that they sacrifice themselves, which is us, for the good of the planet. Any volunteers? . . .

In other words, what lies at the end of that line of thought is human sacrifice on an even larger scale than we currently practice, or them notoriously bloodthirsty Aztecs ever dreamed of.

Regards,
Al J





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Subject: RE: To be celibate is unnatural? Absolutely!


There are a lot of good Scriptures that we should follow. There are other Scriptures that are beautiful lyrical poetry that provide great comfort and inspiration. But some Scriptures are not so good; these are the ones that the devil quotes to his own purpose. One of the bad ones that gets a lot of play is the one about exploiting the planet for the benefit of humans only, including having children like rabbits.. It is unnatural to be celibate for life, and it is irresponsible to have more babies than one or two.

To promote a Scripture that says to 'be fruitful and fill the Earth' is simply self-serving nonsense by some horrid fifth century BC patriarchal tribal leaders who wanted to both reproduce and have lots of followers. (A 'good' Catholic family has at least 5 kids, yannow)..

The Earth can tolerate only so many humans, the same way it can tolerate only so many squirrels or big cats. The Earth is about balance; too much of anything is bad. Six and a half billion humans is about five billion too many for the planet to tolerate under normal conditions. (And that's not just my opinion; ask any biologist.)

It is now incumbent upon humanity to find ways to minimize our use of the planet's resources. Wanton consumption is terrible; it causes desire for war, destruction of the environment and other bad stuff.

How do we fix the mistakes? Let's not have more children than we can support. Teach all children to conserve, recycle and protect Mother Earth from additional exploitation by humans. This means that it's a useless argument whether global warming exists or not; we have no business trashing the planet, polluting the environment or creating problems for future generations to solve.

It's good to popularize living in small houses in large towns in warm areas, encourage using public transit and small, energy-efficient cars, have fashion shows promoting buying secondhand, stop wasteful unhealthy soft drinks by drinking home-filtered water, make a big difference via eating locally-produced, seasonal foods.

We desperately need to become small-group focused and help each other instead of waiting for big business, big government or some other big savior to come and rescue us; those solutions are usually wasteful and predatory, anyway.

I was taught to live this way by my parents, and it's a lot more fun, actually, than going around wringing your hands trying to support a huge tribe of kids, looking to justify stealing other countries' assets (read: Iraqi oil, Afghani land for oil pipelines, etc.) or heat and cool some massive homestead and outspend the Jones family in conspicuous consumption.

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, phillip havlin <nikon99@hotmail.com> wrote:



hmmmmmmm now its sure states in the bible that Yahweh commanded adam sayin go forth and mulutiple be fruitfull and fill the earth .............what is unatural is child abortion, and if if you think about it so is the use of condoms and the pill to keep women and men from having kids ,,,,,,,,,,,if you truly believe the lie that it was for our own good you been decieved NOW HAVING SAID THAT among the teenage pregnancies we know children in this day and age face much persausion to sex through the jew media and pornography and music ,,,,,,,,,but people as parents need to be sure they teach and raise their kids in a right manner to help prevent early parenthood ,,,as it is not easy on them either because they have to watch their children being subjected everyday to sex through cartoons, tv shows ,your common mailing for advertisement,radio, then when your out in a place like a shopping mall they see dozens of advertisements a good one is abercrombie and ftich the filthy adds they put up and alot of them show young children as a matter of fact they were almost sued over a year ago for the advertisement of a teen age boy with no shirt on and his pants were unbuttoned and the fly partialy down .............now another term for sorcery is pharmicka in greek according to strongs concordance now christ taught us about the jew and their sorcery and they use it against us especially women that take their drugs have a look at the breast cancer rates ,,,,,,,,,,overian cancer and the mutilations they do upon women each year by cutting their vaginas and other sorts of things down their because the drugs you thought were good because they told you that you and your body needed them rubbish their is no need to take a women sexual parts from her whatsoever ..................................the cancer could stop ,,,STOP TAKING THEIR DRUGS AND THE MEDIA IS'NT BIG ON FAMILY ESPECIALLY ALL YOUR FEMENIST NAZI GROUPS OUT THIER ALONG WITH THE FILTHY GAY MOVEMENTS THEY WOULD RATHER YOU STAY CELIBATE CAUSE THEY DONT LIKE THE FATHERS IDEA OF FAMILY AND WHAT IT STANDS FOR . SO IF CHILDREN FROM EARLY CHILDHOOD WERE BROUGHT UP IN A HOME THAT OBEYED YHVH HAS BOTH NATURAL PARENTS AND EACH UNDERSTAND THEIR PART AND DESIGN ACCORDING TO YHVH TEACH THE KIDS THE LAWS AND COMMANDS SHARE WITH THEM THE PROPER USE OF THE SEXUALITY THEY WOULD GO ON TO BE GREAT PARENTS AND PROBABLY 8 TO 10 KIDS A GREAT JOB AND DO WONDERFULY IN LIFE BUT THIS ISNT THE CASE HERE IN AMERICA BABLYON NOW.........................


Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 19:25:44 -0800
From: vivaveridad@yahoo.ca


You're a very sick person, and a liar.






From: "nora22000@sbcglobal.net" <nora22000@sbcglobal...net>

Subject: Re: To be celibate is unnatural?

Hogwash.

All priests are culpable in the sexual escapades of the 'bad apples' as you put it. And the Catholic laity, too.


Seminaries recruit perverts because not many men sign up for the priesthood.
Many recruits are emotionally immature and unstable, seeking to escape life.

Other priests stand by and don't lift a finger to protect the children in their parishes.
Monsignors and bishops hush it up and transfer priests when the secret gets out.
Predatory priests arriving at new parishes have free reign to abuse more children.
Catholic laity donates money to the Church to pay off and hush up victims.

The whole group should be ashamed of their actions; please don't apologize or excuse this sick behavior.

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, Viva Veridad <vivaveridad@yahoo.ca> wrote:

We know that. It's deplorable. They should be dealt with harshly, and they will be one way or the other. Jesus has the final say and it's not going to be good for those who misuse children.


That being said, it has nothing to do with the very fine tradition of celibacy that the Catholic Church has adopted since apostolic times. The bad apples have given Catholics a bad name, there's no doubt about it. But it's something we have to live with, unfortunately - the memory, I mean, not the perverts. Let's face it, if these men - I can't call them priests - were truly devout and religious men, they would not have been acting so heinously.


It's just a pity that the truly devout and sincere Catholic priest has to take the flack for what these dastardly characters have done.








From: "Gaylesafe@aol.com" <Gaylesafe@aol.com>

Subject: Re: To be celibate is unnatural?


Recent past history shows us that many priests molested children.

In a message dated 12/1/2009 6:44:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, vivaveridad@yahoo.ca writes:
know that celibacy is mandatory.













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Rofl.

are you a "self hating white?"

Nope.
I'm a realistic pinkish-beige.

Rofl some more.
:-)
Al J



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Sent: Mon, Dec 7, 2009 10:52 pm
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


That's funny. Alan Higgins sound white to me - are you a "self hating white?"
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Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


Rofl.

I would say that's what jews say whites did
Thank you for being such a classic example of a white man talkin' about a minority. :-)
And my pinkish-beige Protestant ancestors are rolling on the clouds of heaven laughing at your question, too.
Al J





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Sent: Fri, Dec 4, 2009 9:28 am
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


I wouldn't say they did much harm to other minorities - I would say that's what jews say whites did (when they were the main slave procurers and traders) and what minorities latched onto - to keep feeding from the public assistance and sympathy trough. You are a jew aren't you Algae.
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Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 4:28 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


I think it's just that whites, having done what they did to other minorities, have vivid imaginations about what those others might do to them if they became the minority.





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From: John Machado <jmach499@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:51 pm
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


Why would whites have to catch up ...?? Is it a contest???

How about non-English speaking asparagus growers .. ?? should they be allowed to catch up .. too??







From: John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 10:14:55 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


The only problem with limiting all people to 1 or 2 children is that non whites have been outbreeding whites by a 20 - 1 margin for decades or even generations now.

Therefore there should be no restictions on Whites unti they reasonably catch up.

Second - you mention te damage 1.5% do to the planet while the rest are innocent.

I submit that overbreeding and polluting with excess people is far more danage that that 1.5% could possibly do..

Turks in Germany, Arabs in Norway, all in England and many in France - the overbreeders are polluting all countries and ruining the planet.

John Hansen
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Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:28 AM
Subject: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


Human behavior spreads quickly, especially negative behavior. What the settlers were doing in the US in the 1880s with bison and the poor passenger pigeon is now being perpetrated on species all over the globe. In other words, you're absolutely correct that it is only 5% of the planet's population committing these negative practices today, but if you hadn't noticed, the mega populations on other continents are doing their best to catch up and pass the gross offenders in consumption, pollution, killing and destruction. It's a war declared on the planet by a bible chapter named Genesis, ironically enough.

The masses in China, India and Africa have created less than 1.5% of the problem; the perpetrators in the US, Europe and Japan have created 98.5% of the problem.

What to do? Again, worldwide, limit each family to one or two children, everywhere. Stop all genetic monkeying with ALL species (including plants, germs, animals, and humans) on the planet. Educate children, worldwide, to take care of our planetary home as a first priority so that it can continue to take care of us. No 'human ingenuity' needed or desired, thank you; there's no way to have the cake and eat it, too.

Every step we take in this direction will help mammals gain as long a run on the planet as dinosaurs had; every step we take in the opposite direction brings mammalian existence closer to the big die-off coming soon to a theater near you. I can see it as one of those big special effects epics Emmerich puts out--yannow, a megabudget 'The Day After Tomorrow' or '2012' type production. In fact, I think I should work up a premise document and submit it for the next producers' review.. Any of you guys want to help me pitch it?

--- On Thu, 12/3/09, John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


From: John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: To be celibate is unnatural? Absolutely!
Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 5:57 AM


You're right on both counts. Some have exploited and abuse the earth and it's resources and there are still far too many people on the planet. Uncontrolled breeding such as in india, mexico and africa (and other places such as indonesia) will take us all down.
----- Original Message -----
From: algae5636@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 2:23 AM
Subject: Re: To be celibate is unnatural? Absolutely!


You and I are on skew lines of thought. Bear with me.

Humans in excess of 1.5 billion have generated a huge die-off of other species. This is incontrovertible fact.
The population of the world hit 1.5 billion in the late 1800's, and was about 1.6 billion in 1900. It has been human behavior, however, that's done the damage, not the number. Nor was the behavior driven by demands created by the total population. The near-extinction of the American bison in the 1880's is a classic example of a die-off perpetrated by a very small fraction of the population of America at the time, and to the benefit of only a small fraction of the population of America and Europe at the time. It was moreover driven by commercial considerations, not by any demands on the environment due to the total number of people in the world. If you look at other die-offs in modern times, you will find that many of them similarly stem from the behavior of a relatively small portion of the total population in the region of the die-off, and that their behavior was not ultimately "population-driven".

The US, with 5% of the world's population, uses/consumes 25% of the world's resources. The associated environmental damage is plainly not due to the population of the world. It plainly is due to the commercial behavior of that small fraction-- 5%-- of the world population, and not even all of that 5% if you look more closely..

That is not to say the world hasn't gotten over-populated; it has, and I think disastrously so. But the association of human impact on the environment with the total population is false and misleading, and misleading to some terrible social consequences. Overly generalizing: A minority of the world's population has had and used their power to affect the world so negatively. That same minority is promoting the idea that the sheer number of people-- "everybody"-- is to blame, instead of themselves and their idiot behaviors. It ultimately leads a full step beyond the Nazi concept of "useless eaters" to the idea of "damaging eaters". There's hell to pay down that road.

Regards,
Al J





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From: nora22000@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Wed, Dec 2, 2009 10:28 pm
Subject: Re: To be celibate is unnatural? Absolutely!


Humans in excess of 1.5 billion have generated a huge die-off of other species. This is incontrovertible fact.

Yes, it might be possible for humans to create favorable living conditions--for more humans--and chalk that up to 'human ingenuity' but it wouldn't be a win-win for the Earth. The Earth thrives on biodiversity, and more humans means fewer species.

For example, ADM and other huge multinational agribusiness conglomerates are promoting single-species bioengineered foodstuff vaireties for planting worldwide, displacing the rich panoply of existing plant species. This might feed more people, but it certainly will have a long-term, extremely negative impact on the planet. In fact, I can just about hear Mother Nature hanging out in her kitchen cooking up some nasty boll weevil or other natural fix to cripple genetically engineered biomasses.

Ultimately, the planet will out, of course. Maybe it will be as dramatic as the sudden die-off of the dinosaurs (which took most other life forms of that time with them) or not; my guess is that the faster we reproduce and rip into the planet's resources, the faster we will extinct ourselves...

So, I go back to the only responsible solution I can think of--especially for developed nations--have one child, maybe two. Make a living will to avoid going on life-support. Use as lttle as you can of the earth's resources while you're here, and teach upcoming generations to use even less.





On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:30 PM, <algae5636@aol.com> wrote:

I agree with much of what you say, Nora, but not this:

The Earth can tolerate only so many humans, the same way it can tolerate only so many squirrels or big cats. The Earth is about balance; too much of anything is bad. Six and a half billion humans is about five billion too many for the planet to tolerate under normal conditions. (And that's not just my opinion; ask any biologist.)
What is unique about us humans is our ability to alter the environment to support more of us. It is consequently fallacious to presume to say what population the planet can tolerate under "normal conditions", when what's normal is altering our environment to support more of us.

I won't argue "in favor" of the present population. Six and a half billion people is unquestionably an overload while we're going about living the way we are. We waste resources at an appalling rate, and arguably waste people even worse. It is outright false, however, for anybody, biologists included, to say the world can only tolerate one and a half billion people. That assumes an artifical limit on-- or totally ignores-- human creativity and problem-solving ability.

Besides that, buying into that idea sets people up for the next thought to be about "who shouldn't be here". . .. and guess what.. The pragmatic answer to that is, those who are most wasteful-- and guess what again. Exactly the people, cultures and countries that think they're the most civilized and technologically advanced are the most wasteful. And yup-- those are the very same people who came up with the billion and a half figure in the first place. So ya see, if they're right, and the problem is as bad as they say, then it is urgent that they sacrifice themselves, which is us, for the good of the planet. Any volunteers? . . .

In other words, what lies at the end of that line of thought is human sacrifice on an even larger scale than we currently practice, or them notoriously bloodthirsty Aztecs ever dreamed of.

Regards,
Al J





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Sent: Wed, Dec 2, 2009 9:33 am
Subject: RE: To be celibate is unnatural? Absolutely!


There are a lot of good Scriptures that we should follow. There are other Scriptures that are beautiful lyrical poetry that provide great comfort and inspiration. But some Scriptures are not so good; these are the ones that the devil quotes to his own purpose. One of the bad ones that gets a lot of play is the one about exploiting the planet for the benefit of humans only, including having children like rabbits.. It is unnatural to be celibate for life, and it is irresponsible to have more babies than one or two.

To promote a Scripture that says to 'be fruitful and fill the Earth' is simply self-serving nonsense by some horrid fifth century BC patriarchal tribal leaders who wanted to both reproduce and have lots of followers. (A 'good' Catholic family has at least 5 kids, yannow)..

The Earth can tolerate only so many humans, the same way it can tolerate only so many squirrels or big cats. The Earth is about balance; too much of anything is bad. Six and a half billion humans is about five billion too many for the planet to tolerate under normal conditions. (And that's not just my opinion; ask any biologist.)

It is now incumbent upon humanity to find ways to minimize our use of the planet's resources. Wanton consumption is terrible; it causes desire for war, destruction of the environment and other bad stuff.

How do we fix the mistakes? Let's not have more children than we can support. Teach all children to conserve, recycle and protect Mother Earth from additional exploitation by humans. This means that it's a useless argument whether global warming exists or not; we have no business trashing the planet, polluting the environment or creating problems for future generations to solve.

It's good to popularize living in small houses in large towns in warm areas, encourage using public transit and small, energy-efficient cars, have fashion shows promoting buying secondhand, stop wasteful unhealthy soft drinks by drinking home-filtered water, make a big difference via eating locally-produced, seasonal foods.

We desperately need to become small-group focused and help each other instead of waiting for big business, big government or some other big savior to come and rescue us; those solutions are usually wasteful and predatory, anyway.

I was taught to live this way by my parents, and it's a lot more fun, actually, than going around wringing your hands trying to support a huge tribe of kids, looking to justify stealing other countries' assets (read: Iraqi oil, Afghani land for oil pipelines, etc.) or heat and cool some massive homestead and outspend the Jones family in conspicuous consumption.

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, phillip havlin <nikon99@hotmail.com> wrote:



hmmmmmmm now its sure states in the bible that Yahweh commanded adam sayin go forth and mulutiple be fruitfull and fill the earth .............what is unatural is child abortion, and if if you think about it so is the use of condoms and the pill to keep women and men from having kids ,,,,,,,,,,,if you truly believe the lie that it was for our own good you been decieved NOW HAVING SAID THAT among the teenage pregnancies we know children in this day and age face much persausion to sex through the jew media and pornography and music ,,,,,,,,,but people as parents need to be sure they teach and raise their kids in a right manner to help prevent early parenthood ,,,as it is not easy on them either because they have to watch their children being subjected everyday to sex through cartoons, tv shows ,your common mailing for advertisement,radio, then when your out in a place like a shopping mall they see dozens of advertisements a good one is abercrombie and ftich the filthy adds they put up and alot of them show young children as a matter of fact they were almost sued over a year ago for the advertisement of a teen age boy with no shirt on and his pants were unbuttoned and the fly partialy down .............now another term for sorcery is pharmicka in greek according to strongs concordance now christ taught us about the jew and their sorcery and they use it against us especially women that take their drugs have a look at the breast cancer rates ,,,,,,,,,,overian cancer and the mutilations they do upon women each year by cutting their vaginas and other sorts of things down their because the drugs you thought were good because they told you that you and your body needed them rubbish their is no need to take a women sexual parts from her whatsoever ..................................the cancer could stop ,,,STOP TAKING THEIR DRUGS AND THE MEDIA IS'NT BIG ON FAMILY ESPECIALLY ALL YOUR FEMENIST NAZI GROUPS OUT THIER ALONG WITH THE FILTHY GAY MOVEMENTS THEY WOULD RATHER YOU STAY CELIBATE CAUSE THEY DONT LIKE THE FATHERS IDEA OF FAMILY AND WHAT IT STANDS FOR . SO IF CHILDREN FROM EARLY CHILDHOOD WERE BROUGHT UP IN A HOME THAT OBEYED YHVH HAS BOTH NATURAL PARENTS AND EACH UNDERSTAND THEIR PART AND DESIGN ACCORDING TO YHVH TEACH THE KIDS THE LAWS AND COMMANDS SHARE WITH THEM THE PROPER USE OF THE SEXUALITY THEY WOULD GO ON TO BE GREAT PARENTS AND PROBABLY 8 TO 10 KIDS A GREAT JOB AND DO WONDERFULY IN LIFE BUT THIS ISNT THE CASE HERE IN AMERICA BABLYON NOW.........................


Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 19:25:44 -0800
From: vivaveridad@yahoo.ca


You're a very sick person, and a liar.






From: "nora22000@sbcglobal.net" <nora22000@sbcglobal...net>

Subject: Re: To be celibate is unnatural?

Hogwash.

All priests are culpable in the sexual escapades of the 'bad apples' as you put it. And the Catholic laity, too.


Seminaries recruit perverts because not many men sign up for the priesthood.
Many recruits are emotionally immature and unstable, seeking to escape life.

Other priests stand by and don't lift a finger to protect the children in their parishes.
Monsignors and bishops hush it up and transfer priests when the secret gets out.
Predatory priests arriving at new parishes have free reign to abuse more children.
Catholic laity donates money to the Church to pay off and hush up victims.

The whole group should be ashamed of their actions; please don't apologize or excuse this sick behavior.

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, Viva Veridad <vivaveridad@yahoo.ca> wrote:

We know that. It's deplorable. They should be dealt with harshly, and they will be one way or the other. Jesus has the final say and it's not going to be good for those who misuse children.


That being said, it has nothing to do with the very fine tradition of celibacy that the Catholic Church has adopted since apostolic times. The bad apples have given Catholics a bad name, there's no doubt about it. But it's something we have to live with, unfortunately - the memory, I mean, not the perverts. Let's face it, if these men - I can't call them priests - were truly devout and religious men, they would not have been acting so heinously.


It's just a pity that the truly devout and sincere Catholic priest has to take the flack for what these dastardly characters have done.








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Subject: Re: To be celibate is unnatural?


Recent past history shows us that many priests molested children.

In a message dated 12/1/2009 6:44:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, vivaveridad@yahoo.ca writes:
know that celibacy is mandatory.













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Some Jews are white.

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what jews say whites did
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Indian boys raped white women and clubed the white men to death on a number of occasions as well.

Not to mention tigger woods who had up to 9 whie trophy playmates while being married to one.

You sure didn't see him after Michele oBUMa did you. Of course who could blame him. <G>
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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


Well, personally I want to thank Hansen for the warning. After all, it's well known that here in the West those white boys used to consider it a rite of passage to rape Indian girls and club Indian men to death. So yeah, I'll agree that it's dangerous to hang around with those other races, especially with white people. We've always been safer to stay away from the gray-eyes and not much really changed, huh?
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Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 2:35 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


Xenophobia lives on. . .

My brother, sisters, and myself all played with children of the so-called "other races", and (oh dear!) eventually dated them besides. And wonder of wonders, none of us ended up dead, beaten or pregnant, nor in any unusual danger of it. Matter of fact we had a really good time.
Al J





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From: John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Sun, Dec 6, 2009 11:22 pm
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


I wouldn't let a kid of mine do anything with one of the other races - the next think you know if he is male he will be DEAD and if femail beaten and pregnant.

To put them in that kind of danger is child abuse.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jacob Israel
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 12:10 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


<<<You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature? Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten. They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together. My son
is white and the first friend was black. My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy. He simply
enjoyed his company. >>>



Actually, "racism" was created by jews, not nature.

Do you know why the word is not in Scripture. There WAS no such concept in the entire Holy Bible, and in fact God punished Solomon severely for NOT being a racist, when he married the Egyptian daughter of the pharaoh:

And King Solomon loved many foreign [nikro, Strong's #5237] women, even the daughter of Pharaoh, Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians, Hittites; 1 Kings 11:1
Did not Solomon king of Israel sin by these things? yet among many nations was there no king like him, and he was beloved of his God, and God made him king over all Israel: nevertheless even him did foreign [nikro, Strong's #5237] women cause to sin. Nehemiah 13:26-27
http://fathersmanifesto.net/sin.htm

Do you know why it's not in the Declaration of Independence or the US Constitution? Because the word "racism" wasn't even coined until a century and a half after it was ratified, and even then it meant something the exact opposite of the way you're using it (it was equated to being a nationalist, or patriot, not necessarily bad traits).

There are more definitions of this word than there are people in the US. To a jew in Russia, a racist is a Russian who claims that only descendants of the Rus are Russians, which jews in Russia know they are not. To a jew in "Israel", a racist is a jew from Russia who they claim are "Russians pretending to be jews". When these "Israelis" then come to the US, they consider a "racist" to be one who upholds EXISTING immigration laws. Thus, to NOT be a racist to them, you must be a criminal or an outlaw. To a nigger in Africa, a racist is an American nigger, but to an American nigger, a racist is a WHITE man who simply wants to associate only with his own.

Of course it's ok for jews, niggers, and Mexican to be racists--it's only us honkies who can't.

John Knight






From: "Mr. Dinga" <mrdinga@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 6:29 PM
To: "Judy Hayner" <edpals2@yahoo.com>, "Tom" <boldsaber@gmail.com>, "gary beauregard" <beau@gcbussu..com>, "Jimmy Jumshade" <jimmybug@rocketmail.com>, "Claudette Konola" <Konola@Bresnan.net>, phayes9402@comcast.net
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


So you haven't seen much CHANGE? Do you still HOPE for it? I'd rather have a politician get elected and do nothing about our situation than one get elected on the premise of doing something but whom still never does. At least then I wouldn't feel blatantly lied to. It's not as if I'm not going to feel lied to anyway, but at least the situation could be KEPT AT BAY by not doing anything versus someone promising to FIX IT and then just adding more and more to it anyway.




From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Thanks, Tom. It has been years since I read any Neitsche and found him dark back then. I really have not studied Marx.
I have knowledge of his theories, but have not found them to be realistic.

Tried reading Hegel once in college, had a crush on a boy who was crazy for him, but never found it my cup of tea.

What are the specifics of what Obama is doing that lead you to say we are in a totalitarian regime ?

I am concerned about several things that are going on with this administration, but the these things are continuations of what
was begun in the Bush administration.








From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>

Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 11:36:46 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Judy, Those 4 philosophers had an extremely negative outlook on mankind and particularly of what they considered the "ruling class'. They all believed, in various degrees and small personal deviations, that a man was shaped by his work but that pleasure and happiness were determined by that ruling class and that the proletariat (the workers) had no choice in determining happiness or good. If he who controlled the means of production decided that workers would be happiest in taking one bath a month, it became the rule. That's why Marx, for example, predicted a proletariat revolution as those of the lower class faced a life of disappointment and frustration and that the revolution is inevitable. The failure of their philosophy is in understanding that replacing a royalty or a "corporation" or a monarch with a totalitarian government is only replacing one "ruling class" for another. A fallacy which we see full bore in the present administration as well.

They definitely didn't espouse the golden rule, far from it, and the USSR under Stalin is the closest I can come to the fulfillment of their philosophy, (Of course, Obama is certainly in the running today), although in reality, the 1917 Revolution ONLY proved that even the proletariat, when successful in their revolt and becoming the ruling class themselves inflicted just as much pain and suffering on a new proletariat or those of their former class who were left behind. Of course, as I wrote in a different post, faith and hope are anathema to the existence of any totalitarian sutocracy, whatever flavor you choose.

Tom

ARMY STRONG!! This We'll Defend.

From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


"Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be."

Bear


From what some of the posters on this e-mail string are writing, it does seem you are correct, Bear.

I had been aware that people like that existed, but I rarely meet anyone like that.

I certainly have not talked to anyone before who espouses a white separatist viewpoint like some on this list do.

One of the reasons we chose to live where we live was because of the racial diversity.
And the area I live in has only become much more racially and ethnically diverse.

In addition to my son's first friend who was black, one of my daughter's pre-school pals was Muslim with a white dad
and a mom from Singapore (she was really interesting). Currently, each of my kids have a varied group of friends,
with daughter being close to a girl with Pakistani heritage, and my son with a boy whose family comes from India, and is
Hindu.

In my job, I see children and people from all over the world.
Everyone I work with treats them all with respect. If anyone is hating any of these children, they are certainly keeping it to themselves.

Also, Tom, what are you saying that Neitsche, Marx, Hegel and Engel believed? The Golden Rule? Or that we as a species will never follow the golden rule?

Many cultures have a version of the golden rule.. I had a poster once, it was decades old and it had all the
different versions printed on it. I put it on the refrigerator when my kids were little. Now there is an organization that
has done the same thing. It is just such a basic way of thinking that helps prevent problems from

And somehow, a crucial part of this discussion has been omitted, the part where JimmyJumshade spoke of racism as a natural defense mechanism created by nature, or something like that. It was his coment that I replied to.

Several passages in the New Testament quote Jesus of Nazareth espousing the golden rule, including the following:
Matthew 7:12
12Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Luke 6:31
31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
Luke 10:25-28
25And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 26He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? 27And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. 28And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
The passage in the book of Luke then continues with Jesus answering the question, "Who is my neighbor?", by telling the parable of the Good Samaritan, indicating that "your neighbour" means a total stranger, or someone that happens to be nearby. Jesus' teaching, however, goes beyond the negative formulation of not doing what one would not like done to themselves, to the positive formulation of actively doing good to another that, if the situations were reversed, one would desire that the other would do for them. This formulation, as indicated in the parable of the Good Samaritan, emphasises the needs for positive action that brings benefit to another, not simply restraining oneself from negative activities that hurt another. Taken as a rule of judgement, both formulations of the golden rule, the negative and positive, are equally applicable.[25]




From: gary beauregard <beau@gcbussu.com>
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 9:56:54 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be.

Bear

--- On Sun, 12/6/09, Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 10:19 AM
Actually Nietsche, Hegel, Marx, and Engel believed that..

Tom

ARMY STRONG!! This We'll Defend.

From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

So, you are saying that as a species we can never treat each other as we would like to be treated, with understanding, love
and respect?

I don't think this is what you mean, but it is coming off that way.

Why accept things as they are? Actually, new ideas are rarely accepted quickly. Of course the idea of racial equality
has been around for quite some time but it is clear not everyone has gotten the memo!

You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature? Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten. They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together. My son
is white and the first friend was black. My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy. He simply
enjoyed his company.




From: Jimmy Jumshade <jimmybug@rocketmail.com>
To: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>; phayes9402@comcast.net; Judy Hayner <edpals2@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 11:09:36 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 8:43 AM
Claudette, Patty seems to have focused an unimportant aspect of your note, which made an excellent point about
the fear behind the rationalization of racism.

And while I'm sure she didn't intend this, her comment enabled Predator then to put down the French ...

Another on this list has decried blocking the racist component on this list as censorship and against
freedom of speech.

If I have learned one thing by being on this list, it is that arguing with people only polarizes their positions. It does not change anyone's mind.

I suspect those who deny the majority of people on earth their humanity will only be cheered if they upset us.

I do not feel it is my duty to provide them with a forum for their fear and hatreds.

I agree with you there is no point in attempting discussion with them, and I take them off the list every time I send an
e-mail.

If the rest of you wish to argue with them and give their positions credibility, that is your right.




From: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:25:02 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Patty, what did I ever do to you to make you hate me so much? You seem to have this need to challenge everything I write. This one is just silly.

Claudette is a French name. http://www.behindthename.com/name/claudette

CLAUDETTE
Gender: Feminine
Usage: French
Pronounced: klo-DET [key]
French feminine form of CLAUDIUS

Konola is a very common Finnish Name. In fact if you google "Konola" you will find that most of the information that comes up is about a Finnish racing team, a well known Finnish artist, and an Nokia executive-in Finland.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBR_enUS274US274&q=Konola


From: phayes9402@comcast.net [mailto:phayes9402@comcast.net]
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 8:03 AM
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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

I'm curious as to how someone could tell that Claudette Konola is of French and Finnish descent. Maybe I'm just missing something but it doesn't appear that obvious to me.

Patty
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You know - if you want to bring the Indians into this - I'm an okie and I never knew an indian that wanted to mix with blacks or mexicans. They wanted their racial purity. I see nothing wrong with that. Do you?
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Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:43 AM
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Well, personally I want to thank Hansen for the warning. After all, it's well known that here in the West those white boys used to consider it a rite of passage to rape Indian girls and club Indian men to death. So yeah, I'll agree that it's dangerous to hang around with those other races, especially with white people. We've always been safer to stay away from the gray-eyes and not much really changed, huh?
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Xenophobia lives on. . .

My brother, sisters, and myself all played with children of the so-called "other races", and (oh dear!) eventually dated them besides. And wonder of wonders, none of us ended up dead, beaten or pregnant, nor in any unusual danger of it. Matter of fact we had a really good time.
Al J





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From: John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Sun, Dec 6, 2009 11:22 pm
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I wouldn't let a kid of mine do anything with one of the other races - the next think you know if he is male he will be DEAD and if femail beaten and pregnant.

To put them in that kind of danger is child abuse.
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From: Jacob Israel
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 12:10 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


<<<You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature? Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten. They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together. My son
is white and the first friend was black. My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy. He simply
enjoyed his company. >>>



Actually, "racism" was created by jews, not nature.

Do you know why the word is not in Scripture. There WAS no such concept in the entire Holy Bible, and in fact God punished Solomon severely for NOT being a racist, when he married the Egyptian daughter of the pharaoh:

And King Solomon loved many foreign [nikro, Strong's #5237] women, even the daughter of Pharaoh, Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians, Hittites; 1 Kings 11:1
Did not Solomon king of Israel sin by these things? yet among many nations was there no king like him, and he was beloved of his God, and God made him king over all Israel: nevertheless even him did foreign [nikro, Strong's #5237] women cause to sin. Nehemiah 13:26-27
http://fathersmanifesto.net/sin.htm

Do you know why it's not in the Declaration of Independence or the US Constitution? Because the word "racism" wasn't even coined until a century and a half after it was ratified, and even then it meant something the exact opposite of the way you're using it (it was equated to being a nationalist, or patriot, not necessarily bad traits).

There are more definitions of this word than there are people in the US. To a jew in Russia, a racist is a Russian who claims that only descendants of the Rus are Russians, which jews in Russia know they are not. To a jew in "Israel", a racist is a jew from Russia who they claim are "Russians pretending to be jews". When these "Israelis" then come to the US, they consider a "racist" to be one who upholds EXISTING immigration laws. Thus, to NOT be a racist to them, you must be a criminal or an outlaw. To a nigger in Africa, a racist is an American nigger, but to an American nigger, a racist is a WHITE man who simply wants to associate only with his own.

Of course it's ok for jews, niggers, and Mexican to be racists--it's only us honkies who can't.

John Knight






From: "Mr. Dinga" <mrdinga@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 6:29 PM
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Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


So you haven't seen much CHANGE? Do you still HOPE for it? I'd rather have a politician get elected and do nothing about our situation than one get elected on the premise of doing something but whom still never does. At least then I wouldn't feel blatantly lied to. It's not as if I'm not going to feel lied to anyway, but at least the situation could be KEPT AT BAY by not doing anything versus someone promising to FIX IT and then just adding more and more to it anyway.




From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Thanks, Tom. It has been years since I read any Neitsche and found him dark back then. I really have not studied Marx.
I have knowledge of his theories, but have not found them to be realistic.

Tried reading Hegel once in college, had a crush on a boy who was crazy for him, but never found it my cup of tea.

What are the specifics of what Obama is doing that lead you to say we are in a totalitarian regime ?

I am concerned about several things that are going on with this administration, but the these things are continuations of what
was begun in the Bush administration.








From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>

Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 11:36:46 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Judy, Those 4 philosophers had an extremely negative outlook on mankind and particularly of what they considered the "ruling class'. They all believed, in various degrees and small personal deviations, that a man was shaped by his work but that pleasure and happiness were determined by that ruling class and that the proletariat (the workers) had no choice in determining happiness or good. If he who controlled the means of production decided that workers would be happiest in taking one bath a month, it became the rule. That's why Marx, for example, predicted a proletariat revolution as those of the lower class faced a life of disappointment and frustration and that the revolution is inevitable. The failure of their philosophy is in understanding that replacing a royalty or a "corporation" or a monarch with a totalitarian government is only replacing one "ruling class" for another. A fallacy which we see full bore in the present administration as well.

They definitely didn't espouse the golden rule, far from it, and the USSR under Stalin is the closest I can come to the fulfillment of their philosophy, (Of course, Obama is certainly in the running today), although in reality, the 1917 Revolution ONLY proved that even the proletariat, when successful in their revolt and becoming the ruling class themselves inflicted just as much pain and suffering on a new proletariat or those of their former class who were left behind. Of course, as I wrote in a different post, faith and hope are anathema to the existence of any totalitarian sutocracy, whatever flavor you choose.

Tom

ARMY STRONG!! This We'll Defend.

From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


"Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be."

Bear


From what some of the posters on this e-mail string are writing, it does seem you are correct, Bear.

I had been aware that people like that existed, but I rarely meet anyone like that.

I certainly have not talked to anyone before who espouses a white separatist viewpoint like some on this list do.

One of the reasons we chose to live where we live was because of the racial diversity.
And the area I live in has only become much more racially and ethnically diverse.

In addition to my son's first friend who was black, one of my daughter's pre-school pals was Muslim with a white dad
and a mom from Singapore (she was really interesting). Currently, each of my kids have a varied group of friends,
with daughter being close to a girl with Pakistani heritage, and my son with a boy whose family comes from India, and is
Hindu.

In my job, I see children and people from all over the world.
Everyone I work with treats them all with respect. If anyone is hating any of these children, they are certainly keeping it to themselves.

Also, Tom, what are you saying that Neitsche, Marx, Hegel and Engel believed? The Golden Rule? Or that we as a species will never follow the golden rule?

Many cultures have a version of the golden rule.. I had a poster once, it was decades old and it had all the
different versions printed on it. I put it on the refrigerator when my kids were little. Now there is an organization that
has done the same thing. It is just such a basic way of thinking that helps prevent problems from

And somehow, a crucial part of this discussion has been omitted, the part where JimmyJumshade spoke of racism as a natural defense mechanism created by nature, or something like that. It was his coment that I replied to.

Several passages in the New Testament quote Jesus of Nazareth espousing the golden rule, including the following:
Matthew 7:12
12Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Luke 6:31
31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
Luke 10:25-28
25And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 26He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? 27And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. 28And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
The passage in the book of Luke then continues with Jesus answering the question, "Who is my neighbor?", by telling the parable of the Good Samaritan, indicating that "your neighbour" means a total stranger, or someone that happens to be nearby. Jesus' teaching, however, goes beyond the negative formulation of not doing what one would not like done to themselves, to the positive formulation of actively doing good to another that, if the situations were reversed, one would desire that the other would do for them. This formulation, as indicated in the parable of the Good Samaritan, emphasises the needs for positive action that brings benefit to another, not simply restraining oneself from negative activities that hurt another. Taken as a rule of judgement, both formulations of the golden rule, the negative and positive, are equally applicable.[25]




From: gary beauregard <beau@gcbussu.com>
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 9:56:54 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be.

Bear

--- On Sun, 12/6/09, Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 10:19 AM
Actually Nietsche, Hegel, Marx, and Engel believed that..

Tom

ARMY STRONG!! This We'll Defend.

From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

So, you are saying that as a species we can never treat each other as we would like to be treated, with understanding, love
and respect?

I don't think this is what you mean, but it is coming off that way.

Why accept things as they are? Actually, new ideas are rarely accepted quickly. Of course the idea of racial equality
has been around for quite some time but it is clear not everyone has gotten the memo!

You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature? Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten. They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together. My son
is white and the first friend was black. My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy. He simply
enjoyed his company.




From: Jimmy Jumshade <jimmybug@rocketmail.com>
To: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>; phayes9402@comcast.net; Judy Hayner <edpals2@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 11:09:36 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 8:43 AM
Claudette, Patty seems to have focused an unimportant aspect of your note, which made an excellent point about
the fear behind the rationalization of racism.

And while I'm sure she didn't intend this, her comment enabled Predator then to put down the French ...

Another on this list has decried blocking the racist component on this list as censorship and against
freedom of speech.

If I have learned one thing by being on this list, it is that arguing with people only polarizes their positions. It does not change anyone's mind.

I suspect those who deny the majority of people on earth their humanity will only be cheered if they upset us.

I do not feel it is my duty to provide them with a forum for their fear and hatreds.

I agree with you there is no point in attempting discussion with them, and I take them off the list every time I send an
e-mail.

If the rest of you wish to argue with them and give their positions credibility, that is your right.




From: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:25:02 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Patty, what did I ever do to you to make you hate me so much? You seem to have this need to challenge everything I write. This one is just silly.

Claudette is a French name. http://www.behindthename.com/name/claudette

CLAUDETTE
Gender: Feminine
Usage: French
Pronounced: klo-DET [key]
French feminine form of CLAUDIUS

Konola is a very common Finnish Name. In fact if you google "Konola" you will find that most of the information that comes up is about a Finnish racing team, a well known Finnish artist, and an Nokia executive-in Finland.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBR_enUS274US274&q=Konola


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I'm curious as to how someone could tell that Claudette Konola is of French and Finnish descent. Maybe I'm just missing something but it doesn't appear that obvious to me.

Patty
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Excellent articles, John.

Thanks for forwarding them.

100% agreed!!!

Sincerely,



John Knight




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There's a number of intelligent folks on this list who can deal with facts and reality instead of insults and labels. Here's some things of interest to them. John, thanks for all you do in standing up for the truth. JH
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“All people were created equal. Some are just more equal than others“
- George Orwell, Animal Farm
What is Racism?
by Thomas Jackson
Originally Published in American Renaissance, Vol 2, No. 8

There is surely no nation in the world that holds “racism” in greater horror than does the United States. Compared to other kinds of offenses, it is thought to be somehow more reprehensible. The press and public have become so used to tales of murder, rape, robbery, and arson, that any but the most spectacular crimes are shrugged off as part of the inevitable texture of American life. “Racism” is never shrugged off. For example, when a white Georgetown Law School student reported earlier this year that black students are not as qualified as white students, it set off a booming, national controversy about “racism.” If the student had merely murdered someone he would have attracted far less attention and criticism.
Racism is, indeed, the national obsession. Universities are on full alert for it, newspapers and politicians denounce it, churches preach against it, America is said to be racked with it, but just what is racism?
Dictionaries are not much help in understanding what is meant by the word. They usually define it as the belief that one’s own ethnic stock is superior to others, or as the belief that culture and behavior are rooted in race. When Americans speak of racism they mean a great deal more than this. Nevertheless, the dictionary definition of racism is a clue to understanding what Americans do mean. A peculiarly American meaning derives from the current dogma that all ethnic stocks are equal. Despite clear evidence to the contrary, all races have been declared to be equally talented and hard- working, and anyone who questions the dogma is thought to be not merely wrong but evil.
The dogma has logical consequences that are profoundly important. If blacks, for example, are equal to whites in every way, what accounts for their poverty, criminality, and dissipation? Since any theory of racial differences has been outlawed, the only possible explanation for black failure is white racism. And since blacks are markedly poor, crime-prone, and dissipated, America must be racked with pervasive racism. Nothing else could be keeping them in such an abject state.
All public discourse on race today is locked into this rigid logic. Any explanation for black failure that does not depend on white wickedness threatens to veer off into the forbidden territory of racial differences. Thus, even if today’s whites can find in their hearts no desire to oppress blacks, yesterday’s whites must have oppressed them. If whites do not consciously oppress blacks, they must oppress them Unconsciously. If no obviously racist individuals can be identified, then societal institutions must be racist. Or, since blacks are failing so terribly in America, there simply must be millions of white people we do not know about, who are working day and night to keep blacks in misery. The dogma of racial equality leaves no room for an explanation of black failure that is not, in some fashion, an indictment of white people.
The logical consequences of this are clear. Since we are required to believe that the only explanation for non-white failure is white racism, every time a non-white is poor, commits a crime, goes on welfare, or takes drugs, white society stands accused of yet another act of racism. All failure or misbehavior by non-whites is standing proof that white society is riddled with hatred and bigotry. For precisely so long as non-whites fail to succeed in life at exactly the same level as whites, whites will be, by definition, thwarting and oppressing them. This obligatory pattern of thinking leads to strange conclusions. First of all, racism is a sin that is thought to be committed almost exclusively by white people. Indeed, a black congressman from Chicago, Gus Savage, and Coleman Young, the black mayor of Detroit, have argued that only white people can be racist. Likewise, in 1987, the affirmative action officer of the State Insurance Fund of New York issued a company pamphlet in which she explained that all whites are racist and that only whites can be racist. How else could the plight of blacks be explained without flirting with the possibility of racial inequality?
Although some blacks and liberal whites concede that non-whites can, perhaps, be racist, they invariably add that non-whites have been forced into it as self-defense because of centuries of white oppression. What appears to be non-white racism is so understandable and forgivable that it hardly deserves the name. Thus, whether or not an act is called racism depends on the race of the racist. What would surely be called racism when done by whites is thought to be normal when done by anyone else. The reverse is also true.
Examples of this sort of double standard are so common, it is almost tedious to list them: When a white man kills a black man and uses the word “nigger” while doing so, there is an enormous media uproar and the nation beats its collective breast; when members of the black Yahweh cult carry out ritual murders of random whites, the media are silent (see AR of March, 1991). College campuses forbid pejorative statements about non-whites as “racist,” but ignore scurrilous attacks on whites.
At election time, if 60 percent of the white voters vote for a white candidate, and 95 percent of the black voters vote for the black opponent, it is white who are accused of racial bias. There are 107 “historically black” colleges, whose fundamental blackness must be preserved in the name of diversity, but all historically white colleges must be forcibly integrated in the name of… the same thing. To resist would be racist.
“Black pride” is said to be a wonderful and worthy thing, but anything that could be construed as an expression of white pride is a form of hatred. It is perfectly natural for third-world immigrants to expect school instruction and driver’s tests in their own languages, whereas for native Americans, to ask them to learn English is racist.
Blatant anti-white prejudice, in the form of affirmative action, is now the law of the land. Anything remotely like affirmative action, if practiced in favor of whites, would be attacked as despicable favoritism.
All across the country, black, Hispanic, and Asian clubs and caucuses are thought to be fine expressions of ethnic solidarity, but any club or association expressly for whites is by definition racist. The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) campaigns openly for black advantage but is a respected “civil rights” organization. The National Association for the Advancement of White People (NAAWP) campaigns merely for equal treatment of all races, but is said to be viciously racist.
At a few college campuses, students opposed to affirmative action have set up student unions for whites, analogous to those for blacks, Hispanics, etc, and have been roundly condemned as racists. Recently, when the white students at Lowell High School in San Francisco found themselves to be a minority, they asked for a racially exclusive club like the ones that non- whites have. They were turned down in horror. Indeed, in America today, any club not specifically formed to be a white enclave but whose members simply happen all to be white is branded as racist.
Today, one of the favorite slogans that define the asymmetric quality of American racism is “celebration of diversity.” It has begun to dawn on a few people that “diversity” is always achieved at the expense of whites (and sometimes men), and never the other way around. No one proposes that Howard University be made more diverse by admitting whites, Hispanics, or Asians. No one ever suggests that National Hispanic University in San Jose (CA) would benefit from the diversity of having non-Hispanics on campus.. No one suggests that the Black Congressional Caucus or the executive ranks of the NAACP or the Mexican-American Legal Defense and Educational Fund suffer from a lack of diversity. Somehow, it is perfectly legitimate for them to celebrate homogeneity. And yet any all-white group - a company, a town, a school, a club, a neighborhood - is thought to suffer from a crippling lack of diversity that must be remedied as quickly as possible. Only when whites have been reduced to a minority has “diversity” been achieved.
Let us put it bluntly: To “celebrate” or “embrace” diversity, as we are so often asked to do, is no different from deploring an excess of whites. In fact, the entire nation is thought to suffer from an excess of whites. Our current immigration policies are structured so that approximately 90 percent of our annual 800,000 legal immigrants are non-white. The several million illegal immigrants that enter the country every year are virtually all non-white. It would be racist not to be grateful for this laudable contribution to “diversity.” It is, of course, only white nations that are called upon to practice this kind of “diversity.” It is almost criminal to imagine a nation of any other race countenancing blatant dispossession of this kind.
What if the United States were pouring its poorest, least educated citizens across the border into Mexico? Could anyone be fooled into thinking that Mexico was being “culturally enriched?” What if the state of Chihuahua were losing its majority population to poor whites who demanded that schools be taught in English, who insisted on celebrating the Fourth of July, who demanded the right to vote even if they weren’t citizens, who clamored for “affirmative action” in jobs and schooling?
Would Mexico - or any other non-white nation - tolerate this kind of cultural and demographic depredation? Of course not. Yet white Americans are supposed to look upon the flood of Hispanics and Asians entering their country as a priceless cultural gift. They are supposed to “celebrate” their own loss of influence, their own dwindling numbers, their own dispossession, for to do otherwise would be hopelessly racist.
There is another curious asymmetry about American racism. When non- whites advance their own racial purposes, no one ever accuses them of “hating” another group. Blacks can join “civil rights” groups and Hispanics can be activists without fear of being branded as bigots and hate mongers.. They can agitate openly for racial preferences that can come only at the expense of whites. They can demand preferential treatment of all kinds without anyone ever suggesting that they are “anti-white.”
Whites, on the other hand, need only express their opposition to affirmative action to be called haters. They need only subject racial policies that are clearly prejudicial to themselves to be called racists. Should they actually go so far as to say that they prefer the company of their own kind, that they wish to be left alone to enjoy the fruits of their European heritage, they are irredeemably wicked and hateful.
Here, then is the final, baffling inconsistency about American race relations. All non-whites are allowed to prefer the company of their own kind, to think of themselves as groups with interests distinct from those of the whole, and to work openly for group advantage. None of this is thought to be racist. At the same time, whites must also champion the racial interests of non-whites. They must sacrifice their own future on the altar of “diversity” and cooperate in their own dispossession. They are to encourage, even to subsidize, the displacement of a European people and culture by alien peoples and cultures. To put it in the simplest possible terms, white people are cheerfully to slaughter their own society, to commit racial and cultural suicide. To refuse to do so would be racism.
Of course, the entire non-white enterprise in the United States is perfectly natural and healthy. Nothing could be more natural than to love one’s people and to hope that it should flourish. Filipinos and El Salvadorans are doubtless astonished to discover that simply by setting foot in the United States they are entitled to affirmative action preferences over native-born whites, but can they be blamed for accepting them? Is it surprising that they should want their languages, their cultures, their brothers and sisters to take possession and put their mark indelibly on the land? If the once-great people of a once-great nation is bent upon self-destruction and is prepared to hand over land and power to whomever shows up and asks for it, why should Mexicans and Cambodians complain?
No, it is the white enterprise in the United States that is unnatural, unhealthy, and without historical precedent. Whites have let themselves be convinced that it is racist merely to object to dispossession, much less to work for their own interests. Never in the history of the world has a dominant people thrown open the gates to strangers, and poured out its wealth to aliens. Never before has a people been fooled into thinking that there was virtue or nobility in surrendering its heritage, and giving away to others its place in history. Of all the races in America, only whites have been tricked into thinking that a preference for one’s own kind is racism. Only whites are ever told that a love for their own people is somehow “hatred” of others. All healthy people prefer the company of their own kind, and it has nothing to do with hatred. All men love their families more than their neighbors, but this does not mean that they hate their neighbors. Whites who love their racial family need bear no ill will towards non-whites. They only wish to be left alone to participate in the unfolding of their racial and cultural destinies.
What whites in America are being asked to do is therefore utterly unnatural. They are being asked to devote themselves to the interests of other races and to ignore the interests of their own. This is like asking a man to forsake his own children and love the children of his neighbors, since to do otherwise would be “racist.”
What then, is “racism?” It is considerably more than any dictionary is likely to say. It is any opposition by whites to official policies of racial preference for non-whites. It is any preference by whites for their own people and culture. It is any resistance by whites to the idea of becoming a minority people. It is any unwillingness to be pushed aside. It is, in short, any of the normal aspirations of people-hood that have defined nations since the beginning of history - but only so long as the aspirations are those of whites.
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Proud To Be White

Someone finally said it.
How many are actually paying attention to this?

There are African Americans, Mexican Americans,
Asian Americans, Arab Americans, Native Americans, etc.
And then there are just Americans..
You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction.
You Call me "White boy," "Cracker," "Honkey,"
"Whitey," "Caveman" . and that's OK.
But when I call you, Nigger, Kike, Towel head,
Sand-nigger, camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink ...
you call me a racist.
You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you,
so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?
You have the United Negro College Fund. You have
Martin Luther King Day. You have Black History Month.
You have Cesar Chavez Day. You have Yom Hashoah. You
have Ma'uled Al-Nabi. You have the NAACP.
You have BET.
If we had WET (White Entertainment Television) .
we'd be racists.
If we had a White Pride Day .. you would call us racists.
If we had White History Month …
we'd be racists.
If we had any organization for only whites to "advance" OUR lives .
we'd be racists.
We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black
Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the plain
Chamber of Commerce.
Wonder who pays for that?
If we had a college fund that only gave white students
scholarships ... you know we'd be racists.
There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in
the US , yet if there were "White colleges" ...
THAT would be a racist college.
In the Million Man March, you believed that you were
marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our
race and rights,
you would call us racists.
Your Muslim ancestors are your real slave marketers
but you don’t know your own history and you call us racist.
You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange,
and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we
announce our white pride ....
you call us racists.
You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a
white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats
up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing
a threat to society . you call him a racist.
I am proud.
But, you call me a racist.
Why is it that only whites can be racists?

There is nothing improper about this story.
Let's see which of you are proud enough to send it on.
____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

“I don't think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except numbers. The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America. Try to have things like the United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss White America; and see what happens...Jesse Jackson will be knocking down your door. I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird, or tick me off. When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not racial profiling, it is the Law of Probability. I think the police should have every right to shoot your sorry ass if you threaten them after they tell you to stop. I am sick of "Political Correctness." I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa; so how can they be "African-Americans"? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because my great, great, great, great , great, great grandfather was from Europe. I am sick of "Political Correctness." I am proud to be from America and nowhere else”
-- Andy Rooney



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White skinned but not caucasian.

Many jews are considered "white" in the census as are many hispanics.

I believe oBUMa's mother was a jew as many do.

He said in one of his books that: "ver early on - I began to feel a strong animosity toward my mother's race."

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<<<The Nazi Party's racial policies and thinking was ENTIRELY Darwinism. THe idea of a Master race, of inferior races, of racial purity, WAS ALL DARWINISM APPLIED.

So according to YOUR beliefs (not mine) MIGHT DOES MAKE RIGHT. THAT IS WHAT NAZIS BELIEVED. If you have the power to take something, then you have a right to it.>>>


That's because all the top Nazis, all the way to Hitler, were filthy sodomite edomite kikes pretending to be "jews", not Christians (which 99% of Germans are--and Turks are NOT Germans).

In 9 years of living in Germany, I never met a single German who thought he was an "Aryan", or that Hitler was his spiritual leader, or that Nazis did anything any better for Germany than nigger obama banana did for the US, or that Darwin was anything but the simple, uneducated, untrained, unscientific child that even DARWIN himself admitted that he was (even though even he had the sense to reject his own childish ramblings about "speciation" before he died):

http://jacobisrael.sytes.net/darwin.htm

http://jacobisrael.sytes.net/evolution.htm

Germans are superior because they're the Tribe of Judah and God MADE them that way right from the GETGO, not because of "evolution", or anything filthy kike Hitler ever did or said, up to and including "his invention" of the Volkswagen which Hitler had NOTHING to do with.

Guess what. Al Gore didn't invent the internet either. Germans did.

John Knight








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You forgot to mention the ADL, SPLC, ACLU, AIPAC, JDL, -TELL THEM MIGHT DOES NOT MAKE RIGHT.
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But might DOES make right in your neo-Nazi philosophy.

NOT IN MINE. In my philosophy, all people are created equal by God, and as the Bible says, heaven will be fileld with people "from every tribe from every tongue from every people from every nation."

BUT YOUR RACE-BASED PHILOSOPHY is specifically based on Darwinism.

The Nazi Party's racial policies and thinking was ENTIRELY Darwinism. THe idea of a Master race, of inferior races, of racial purity, WAS ALL DARWINISM APPLIED.

So according to YOUR beliefs (not mine) MIGHT DOES MAKE RIGHT. THAT IS WHAT NAZIS BELIEVED. If you have the power to take something, then you have a right to it.

The Germans had a right to take over territory siply because they could.

The Germans were destined to rule the Earth simply because they could.

The historical imperative favored the strong.

SO WHEN ANTI-SEMITES LIE AND SAY THAT JEWS CONTROL EVERYTHING, THEY ARE DECLARING THAT THE JEWS ARE THE MASTER RACE and that the historical imperative is for Jews to take over the Earth and all other racs to -- in a Darwinian sense -- fade away.

That's now that I believe.

But that is what you are saying everytie you spread conspiracy theories that the jews control everything.

Jack Stone




On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:48 AM, John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

They are pretty much in control of everything and wanting it all.

>Sounds like, to hear you tell it, the Jews are simply superior human beings to others.

No - might doesn't make right - charles manson wasn't superior he was the most ruthless.

Jews are the most crooked and the ethnocentricism gives them an advatage over others and they use it.

That's why they won't give their full allegiance to America - they are loyal only to other jews.

As for the germans / jews - I don't know much about that.

White People are no inferior to anyone - their biggest fault is being too kind, generous and tolerant.

But, we're learning.

John Hansen

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Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?




But according to you, the Jews are rich and in control of everything.

So nothing is holding the Jews back, is it?

Sounds like, to hear you tell it, the Jews are simply superior human beings to others.

Clearly the Jews are superior to all Germans .... at least to hear you tell the story.

You claim that the Germans were defeated by Jews in WW1 and WW2, that Churchill, Eisenhower and Roosevelt were all Jews, and Stalin as well.

So according to you, the Jews whupped the Germans butts twice in a row.

Clearly to follow the Nazi doctrine based on Darwin of the suprerior race dominanting, you should commit suicide because YOU are the inferior race. Accordign to YOUR Darwinist Nazi doctrine the Jews SHOULD (ought to) crowd out all other people and all other people should be extinct.

According to MY belief, by contrast, God died for all of humanity and race is irrelevant.


Jack Stone


On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 4:04 PM, John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
Fixation on being a victim prevents Blacks and neo-Nazis alike from taking responsibility for their own lives and establishing a viable and workable, functioning society in their community.

That applies to the jews who spout victimhood at every opportunity.
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Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?




It is not racism to cite facts.

It may be motivated by racism to invent false facts and/or misrepresent them.

It is also racist to leap the unwarranted conclusion that the facts are explaiend by skin color rather than CULTURE.

There is no doubt that the culture which has come to be normal and accepted among SOME (perhaps most) Black communities -- AND ALSO AMONG MANY WHITE COMMUNITIES -- accepts as "normal" a lifestyle that is immoral and dysfunctional.

Fixation on being a victim prevents Blacks and neo-Nazis alike from taking responsibility for their own lives and establishing a viable and workable, functioning society in their community.

This is the same lifestyle and system of amorality that liberals are trying desperately to instill into ALL of American society.

And indeed it is the same culture of immorality and victimhood that prevails among Germans (Teutons) and neo-Nazis. The SAME irresponsibility and fixation on being a victim is at work among the neo-Nazis as with many Black cultures.

This is the belief system that the liberals are tying to make all of American society live by. It will be as destructive to all of society as it has been in the post-slavery Black community.

Jack Stone



On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 9:03 AM, John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

IT's not wonder we are down on those violent other races.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Explain this timmy. WHY are you animals so much more likely to
attack a white man? WHY are your own people having sex with 12 yr old
girls who have 5 litters by the time they're 18??

http://amren.com/
http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.pdf

Major Findings
• Police and the justice system are not biased against minorities.
Crime Rates
• Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to
commit murder,
and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
• When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times
more likely
than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a
knife.
• Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white
rate, and
Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate....
• The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the
percentage of
the population that is black and Hispanic.
Interracial Crime
• Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every
year involving
blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15
percent.
• Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against
blacks. Fortyfive
percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10
percent are
Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of
their victims are
black.
• Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent
crime against
a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
• Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated
hate crimes
against whites than vice versa.
Gangs
• Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
• Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of
youth gangs.
Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more
likely.
Incarceration
• Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled,
from 139
to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from
320,000 to 1.39
million.
• Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites.
Hispanics are
three times more likely.



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Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:45 AM
Subject: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


John Hanson asked simply:

"So - you have great hostility toward White People - right?"

An obvious racist known on the net as "Claudette Konola" whined, and thus begun a whole flurry of self-hating email:

"John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you [ad infinitum]... "

It's a simple question. And while you think you didn't answer it, Claudette, we know from your response that you DO HATE White people just as John surmised.

Now here's another question. What exactly is it about the US Constitution which makes you muds think YOU have a right to free speech that us WHITES do not have? Why can YOU hurl such insults, and we can't even ask a simple question of you? Why do you HATE simple discussions about race so much. I'd really like to know.

John Knight






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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


I don't agree with everything, or most things that Predator writes......but I know him and I know that he writes the things he does to get the reaction you and Claudette are displaying......in other words you gave him what he wants. If someone wants to block someone why do they feel the need to make a big deal about it as if the blockee is going to have an emotional breakdown and have their lives ruined? It's just not that important to most people......if a friend said I'm going to block you I would care but someone you don't even know!

Patty
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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


Claudette, Patty seems to have focused an unimportant aspect of your note, which made an excellent point about
the fear behind the rationalization of racism.


And while I'm sure she didn't intend this, her comment enabled Predator then to put down the French ....


Another on this list has decried blocking the racist component on this list as censorship and against
freedom of speech.


If I have learned one thing by being on this list, it is that arguing with people only polarizes their positions. It does not change anyone's mind.


I suspect those who deny the majority of people on earth their humanity will only be cheered if they upset us.


I do not feel it is my duty to provide them with a forum for their fear and hatreds.


I agree with you there is no point in attempting discussion with them, and I take them off the list every time I send an
e-mail.


If the rest of you wish to argue with them and give their positions credibility, that is your right.




From: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:25:02 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


Patty, what did I ever do to you to make you hate me so much? You seem to have this need to challenge everything I write. This one is just silly.

Claudette is a French name. http://www.behindthename.com/name/claudette

CLAUDETTE
Gender: Feminine
Usage: French
Pronounced: klo-DET [key]
French feminine form of CLAUDIUS

Konola is a very common Finnish Name. In fact if you google “Konola” you will find that most of the information that comes up is about a Finnish racing team, a well known Finnish artist, and an Nokia executive—in Finland.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBR_enUS274US274&q=Konola


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<<<Xenophobia lives on. . . My brother, sisters, and myself all played with children of the so-called "other races", and (oh dear!) eventually dated them besides. And wonder of wonders, none of us ended up dead, beaten or pregnant, nor in any unusual danger of it. Matter of fact we had a really good time. >>>

Who gives a rat's .ss, mamzer algae?

That STILL does not give you a "right" to force you and yours on me and mine that's any greater than OUR right to free association with whom we please, does it?

Your use of the term "Xenophobia lives on" implies that you DO think you do! So let's set the record straight once and for all: NO YOU DO NOT!!! And exactly what is it about us honkies that you feel the need to impose your mamzer .sses on us in the first place?

Even though John doesn't have children and thus doesn't really grasp just how important it is to propagate His holy seed, he still understands the problem a BILLION times better than any of you mamzers ever will or can:

<<<I wouldn't let a kid of mine do anything with one of the other races - the next think you know if he is male he will be DEAD and if femail beaten and pregnant. To put them in that kind of danger is child abuse.>>>

http://jacobisrael.sytes.net/holyspirit.htm

100% AGREED, JOHN.

God bless you for standing up and being counted!!!

Sincerely,



John Knight





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Xenophobia lives on. . .

My brother, sisters, and myself all played with children of the so-called "other races", and (oh dear!) eventually dated them besides. And wonder of wonders, none of us ended up dead, beaten or pregnant, nor in any unusual danger of it. Matter of fact we had a really good time.
Al J





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From: John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Sun, Dec 6, 2009 11:22 pm
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


I wouldn't let a kid of mine do anything with one of the other races - the next think you know if he is male he will be DEAD and if femail beaten and pregnant.

To put them in that kind of danger is child abuse.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jacob Israel
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 12:10 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


<<<You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature? Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten. They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together. My son
is white and the first friend was black. My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy. He simply
enjoyed his company. >>>



Actually, "racism" was created by jews, not nature.

Do you know why the word is not in Scripture. There WAS no such concept in the entire Holy Bible, and in fact God punished Solomon severely for NOT being a racist, when he married the Egyptian daughter of the pharaoh:

And King Solomon loved many foreign [nikro, Strong's #5237] women, even the daughter of Pharaoh, Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians, Hittites; 1 Kings 11:1
Did not Solomon king of Israel sin by these things? yet among many nations was there no king like him, and he was beloved of his God, and God made him king over all Israel: nevertheless even him did foreign [nikro, Strong's #5237] women cause to sin. Nehemiah 13:26-27
http://fathersmanifesto.net/sin.htm

Do you know why it's not in the Declaration of Independence or the US Constitution? Because the word "racism" wasn't even coined until a century and a half after it was ratified, and even then it meant something the exact opposite of the way you're using it (it was equated to being a nationalist, or patriot, not necessarily bad traits).

There are more definitions of this word than there are people in the US. To a jew in Russia, a racist is a Russian who claims that only descendants of the Rus are Russians, which jews in Russia know they are not. To a jew in "Israel", a racist is a jew from Russia who they claim are "Russians pretending to be jews". When these "Israelis" then come to the US, they consider a "racist" to be one who upholds EXISTING immigration laws. Thus, to NOT be a racist to them, you must be a criminal or an outlaw. To a nigger in Africa, a racist is an American nigger, but to an American nigger, a racist is a WHITE man who simply wants to associate only with his own.

Of course it's ok for jews, niggers, and Mexican to be racists--it's only us honkies who can't.

John Knight






From: "Mr. Dinga" <mrdinga@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 6:29 PM
To: "Judy Hayner" <edpals2@yahoo.com>, "Tom" <boldsaber@gmail.com>, "gary beauregard" <beau@gcbussu..com>, "Jimmy Jumshade" <jimmybug@rocketmail.com>, "Claudette Konola" <Konola@Bresnan.net>, phayes9402@comcast.net
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


So you haven't seen much CHANGE? Do you still HOPE for it? I'd rather have a politician get elected and do nothing about our situation than one get elected on the premise of doing something but whom still never does. At least then I wouldn't feel blatantly lied to. It's not as if I'm not going to feel lied to anyway, but at least the situation could be KEPT AT BAY by not doing anything versus someone promising to FIX IT and then just adding more and more to it anyway.




From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Thanks, Tom. It has been years since I read any Neitsche and found him dark back then. I really have not studied Marx.
I have knowledge of his theories, but have not found them to be realistic.

Tried reading Hegel once in college, had a crush on a boy who was crazy for him, but never found it my cup of tea.

What are the specifics of what Obama is doing that lead you to say we are in a totalitarian regime ?

I am concerned about several things that are going on with this administration, but the these things are continuations of what
was begun in the Bush administration.








From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>

Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 11:36:46 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Judy, Those 4 philosophers had an extremely negative outlook on mankind and particularly of what they considered the "ruling class'. They all believed, in various degrees and small personal deviations, that a man was shaped by his work but that pleasure and happiness were determined by that ruling class and that the proletariat (the workers) had no choice in determining happiness or good. If he who controlled the means of production decided that workers would be happiest in taking one bath a month, it became the rule. That's why Marx, for example, predicted a proletariat revolution as those of the lower class faced a life of disappointment and frustration and that the revolution is inevitable. The failure of their philosophy is in understanding that replacing a royalty or a "corporation" or a monarch with a totalitarian government is only replacing one "ruling class" for another. A fallacy which we see full bore in the present administration as well.

They definitely didn't espouse the golden rule, far from it, and the USSR under Stalin is the closest I can come to the fulfillment of their philosophy, (Of course, Obama is certainly in the running today), although in reality, the 1917 Revolution ONLY proved that even the proletariat, when successful in their revolt and becoming the ruling class themselves inflicted just as much pain and suffering on a new proletariat or those of their former class who were left behind. Of course, as I wrote in a different post, faith and hope are anathema to the existence of any totalitarian sutocracy, whatever flavor you choose.

Tom

ARMY STRONG!! This We'll Defend.

From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


"Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be."

Bear


From what some of the posters on this e-mail string are writing, it does seem you are correct, Bear.

I had been aware that people like that existed, but I rarely meet anyone like that.

I certainly have not talked to anyone before who espouses a white separatist viewpoint like some on this list do.

One of the reasons we chose to live where we live was because of the racial diversity.
And the area I live in has only become much more racially and ethnically diverse.

In addition to my son's first friend who was black, one of my daughter's pre-school pals was Muslim with a white dad
and a mom from Singapore (she was really interesting). Currently, each of my kids have a varied group of friends,
with daughter being close to a girl with Pakistani heritage, and my son with a boy whose family comes from India, and is
Hindu.

In my job, I see children and people from all over the world.
Everyone I work with treats them all with respect. If anyone is hating any of these children, they are certainly keeping it to themselves.

Also, Tom, what are you saying that Neitsche, Marx, Hegel and Engel believed? The Golden Rule? Or that we as a species will never follow the golden rule?

Many cultures have a version of the golden rule.. I had a poster once, it was decades old and it had all the
different versions printed on it. I put it on the refrigerator when my kids were little. Now there is an organization that
has done the same thing. It is just such a basic way of thinking that helps prevent problems from

And somehow, a crucial part of this discussion has been omitted, the part where JimmyJumshade spoke of racism as a natural defense mechanism created by nature, or something like that. It was his coment that I replied to.

Several passages in the New Testament quote Jesus of Nazareth espousing the golden rule, including the following:
Matthew 7:12
12Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Luke 6:31
31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
Luke 10:25-28
25And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 26He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? 27And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. 28And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
The passage in the book of Luke then continues with Jesus answering the question, "Who is my neighbor?", by telling the parable of the Good Samaritan, indicating that "your neighbour" means a total stranger, or someone that happens to be nearby. Jesus' teaching, however, goes beyond the negative formulation of not doing what one would not like done to themselves, to the positive formulation of actively doing good to another that, if the situations were reversed, one would desire that the other would do for them. This formulation, as indicated in the parable of the Good Samaritan, emphasises the needs for positive action that brings benefit to another, not simply restraining oneself from negative activities that hurt another. Taken as a rule of judgement, both formulations of the golden rule, the negative and positive, are equally applicable.[25]




From: gary beauregard <beau@gcbussu.com>
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 9:56:54 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be.

Bear

--- On Sun, 12/6/09, Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 10:19 AM
Actually Nietsche, Hegel, Marx, and Engel believed that..

Tom

ARMY STRONG!! This We'll Defend.

From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

So, you are saying that as a species we can never treat each other as we would like to be treated, with understanding, love
and respect?

I don't think this is what you mean, but it is coming off that way.

Why accept things as they are? Actually, new ideas are rarely accepted quickly. Of course the idea of racial equality
has been around for quite some time but it is clear not everyone has gotten the memo!

You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature? Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten. They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together. My son
is white and the first friend was black. My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy. He simply
enjoyed his company.




From: Jimmy Jumshade <jimmybug@rocketmail.com>
To: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>; phayes9402@comcast.net; Judy Hayner <edpals2@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 11:09:36 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 8:43 AM
Claudette, Patty seems to have focused an unimportant aspect of your note, which made an excellent point about
the fear behind the rationalization of racism.

And while I'm sure she didn't intend this, her comment enabled Predator then to put down the French ...

Another on this list has decried blocking the racist component on this list as censorship and against
freedom of speech.

If I have learned one thing by being on this list, it is that arguing with people only polarizes their positions. It does not change anyone's mind.

I suspect those who deny the majority of people on earth their humanity will only be cheered if they upset us.

I do not feel it is my duty to provide them with a forum for their fear and hatreds.

I agree with you there is no point in attempting discussion with them, and I take them off the list every time I send an
e-mail.

If the rest of you wish to argue with them and give their positions credibility, that is your right.




From: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:25:02 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Patty, what did I ever do to you to make you hate me so much? You seem to have this need to challenge everything I write. This one is just silly.

Claudette is a French name. http://www.behindthename.com/name/claudette

CLAUDETTE
Gender: Feminine
Usage: French
Pronounced: klo-DET [key]
French feminine form of CLAUDIUS

Konola is a very common Finnish Name. In fact if you google "Konola" you will find that most of the information that comes up is about a Finnish racing team, a well known Finnish artist, and an Nokia executive-in Finland.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBR_enUS274US274&q=Konola


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I'm curious as to how someone could tell that Claudette Konola is of French and Finnish descent. Maybe I'm just missing something but it doesn't appear that obvious to me.

Patty
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John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you, and your E-mails are going into my junk mail box where they are automatically deleted so long as you continue to send them. You are trying to look rational, but to me you are scared shitless that you may have to share power with people of color. By the way, you should be able to see from my name that my ethnic background is French and Finnish. I am a white woman who hopes there are no other white women willing to breed with the likes of you.

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Albinos are White.

You're not, by the way, Hansen. You are PINK or tan / brown.

So Albino Africans are White.

You're pink.

Jack Stone


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White skinned but not caucasian.

Many jews are considered "white" in the census as are many hispanics.

I believe oBUMa's mother was a jew as many do.

He said in one of his books that: "ver early on - I began to feel a strong animosity toward my mother's race."

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Some Jews are white.

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what jews say whites did





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<<<Judy, thank you. And you are right, hate is such a strong emotion that I don’t have time for it.>>>

What in the .ell!!! do you think the following statement is from if it is NOT from PURE WHITE RACIAL HATRED?:

<<<"John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you [ad infinitum]... ">>>

You have PLENTY OF TIME FOR HATRED, don't you? That's ALL you've done, so far.

We all know what you two mean by "It always amuses me that white men who don’t like minorities very much, including women, seem to think that anybody who disagrees with them must not be white also", don't we? Free speech applies ONLY to you and those you AGREE with, and nobody else, right?

John Knight



ps--and just for the record, God's Enmity for White Race Traitor women is on par with His Hatred for Esau, if not more severe:

Was not Esau Jacob's brother? says the LORD: yet I loved Jacob, but hated Esau; I made his mountains a waste, his heritage a desert for jackals, Malachai 1:3
As it is written: "I loved Jacob but hated Esau," Romans 9:13




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Judy, thank you. And you are right, hate is such a strong emotion that I don’t have time for it.

It always amuses me that white men who don’t like minorities very much, including women, seem to think that anybody who disagrees with them must not be white also. I also find it amusing that some of those same people seem to think that freedom of speech means that I can’t be selective in who I accept into my in-box. I wouldn’t invite any of these people into my home, why would I invite them into my computer? The free speech amendment is all about the government not stopping you from saying something. There is nothing in the constitution, or good manners, that says I have to listen to bigotry. (Especially, since it is still a mystery to me how I got on this list in the first place. LOL)

From: JUDYFULLER007@aol.com [mailto:JUDYFULLER007@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:04 PM



Listen, nitwit. Claudette does not hate anybody.

In a message dated 12/5/2009 1:39:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jk@israeliteidentity.com writes:
John Hanson asked simply:

"So - you have great hostility toward White People - right?"

An obvious racist known on the net as "Claudette Konola" whined, and thus begun a whole flurry of self-hating email:

"John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you [ad infinitum]... "

It's a simple question. And while you think you didn't answer it, Claudette, we know from your response that you DO HATE White people just as John surmised.

Now here's another question. What exactly is it about the US Constitution which makes you muds think YOU have a right to free speech that us WHITES do not have? Why can YOU hurl such insults, and we can't even ask a simple question of you? Why do you HATE simple discussions about race so much. I'd really like to know.

John Knight





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<<<Xenophobia lives on. . . My brother, sisters, and myself all played with children of the so-called "other races", and (oh dear!) eventually dated them besides. And wonder of wonders, none of us ended up dead, beaten or pregnant, nor in any unusual danger of it. Matter of fact we had a really good time. >>>

Who gives a rat's .ss, mamzer algae?

That STILL does not give you a "right" to force you and yours on me and mine that's any greater than OUR right to free association with whom we please, does it?

Your use of the term "Xenophobia lives on" implies that you DO think you do! So let's set the record straight once and for all: NO YOU DO NOT!!! And exactly what is it about us honkies that you feel the need to impose your mamzer .sses on us in the first place?

Even though John doesn't have children and thus doesn't really grasp just how important it is to propagate His holy seed, he still understands the problem a BILLION times better than any of you mamzers ever will or can:

<<<I wouldn't let a kid of mine do anything with one of the other races - the next think you know if he is male he will be DEAD and if femail beaten and pregnant. To put them in that kind of danger is child abuse.>>>

http://jacobisrael.sytes.net/holyspirit.htm

100% AGREED, JOHN.

God bless you for standing up and being counted!!!

Sincerely,



John Knight





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Xenophobia lives on. . .

My brother, sisters, and myself all played with children of the so-called "other races", and (oh dear!) eventually dated them besides. And wonder of wonders, none of us ended up dead, beaten or pregnant, nor in any unusual danger of it. Matter of fact we had a really good time.
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From: John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net>
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I wouldn't let a kid of mine do anything with one of the other races - the next think you know if he is male he will be DEAD and if femail beaten and pregnant.

To put them in that kind of danger is child abuse.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jacob Israel
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 12:10 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


<<<You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature? Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten. They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together. My son
is white and the first friend was black. My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy. He simply
enjoyed his company. >>>



Actually, "racism" was created by jews, not nature.

Do you know why the word is not in Scripture. There WAS no such concept in the entire Holy Bible, and in fact God punished Solomon severely for NOT being a racist, when he married the Egyptian daughter of the pharaoh:

And King Solomon loved many foreign [nikro, Strong's #5237] women, even the daughter of Pharaoh, Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians, Hittites; 1 Kings 11:1
Did not Solomon king of Israel sin by these things? yet among many nations was there no king like him, and he was beloved of his God, and God made him king over all Israel: nevertheless even him did foreign [nikro, Strong's #5237] women cause to sin. Nehemiah 13:26-27
http://fathersmanifesto.net/sin.htm

Do you know why it's not in the Declaration of Independence or the US Constitution? Because the word "racism" wasn't even coined until a century and a half after it was ratified, and even then it meant something the exact opposite of the way you're using it (it was equated to being a nationalist, or patriot, not necessarily bad traits).

There are more definitions of this word than there are people in the US. To a jew in Russia, a racist is a Russian who claims that only descendants of the Rus are Russians, which jews in Russia know they are not. To a jew in "Israel", a racist is a jew from Russia who they claim are "Russians pretending to be jews". When these "Israelis" then come to the US, they consider a "racist" to be one who upholds EXISTING immigration laws. Thus, to NOT be a racist to them, you must be a criminal or an outlaw. To a nigger in Africa, a racist is an American nigger, but to an American nigger, a racist is a WHITE man who simply wants to associate only with his own.

Of course it's ok for jews, niggers, and Mexican to be racists--it's only us honkies who can't.

John Knight







From: "Mr. Dinga" <mrdinga@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 6:29 PM
To: "Judy Hayner" <edpals2@yahoo.com>, "Tom" <boldsaber@gmail.com>, "gary beauregard" <beau@gcbussu..com>, "Jimmy Jumshade" <jimmybug@rocketmail.com>, "Claudette Konola" <Konola@Bresnan.net>, phayes9402@comcast.net

Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?



So you haven't seen much CHANGE? Do you still HOPE for it? I'd rather have a politician get elected and do nothing about our situation than one get elected on the premise of doing something but whom still never does. At least then I wouldn't feel blatantly lied to. It's not as if I'm not going to feel lied to anyway, but at least the situation could be KEPT AT BAY by not doing anything versus someone promising to FIX IT and then just adding more and more to it anyway.




From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Thanks, Tom. It has been years since I read any Neitsche and found him dark back then. I really have not studied Marx.
I have knowledge of his theories, but have not found them to be realistic.

Tried reading Hegel once in college, had a crush on a boy who was crazy for him, but never found it my cup of tea.

What are the specifics of what Obama is doing that lead you to say we are in a totalitarian regime ?

I am concerned about several things that are going on with this administration, but the these things are continuations of what
was begun in the Bush administration.








From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>


Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 11:36:46 AM

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Judy, Those 4 philosophers had an extremely negative outlook on mankind and particularly of what they considered the "ruling class'. They all believed, in various degrees and small personal deviations, that a man was shaped by his work but that pleasure and happiness were determined by that ruling class and that the proletariat (the workers) had no choice in determining happiness or good. If he who controlled the means of production decided that workers would be happiest in taking one bath a month, it became the rule. That's why Marx, for example, predicted a proletariat revolution as those of the lower class faced a life of disappointment and frustration and that the revolution is inevitable. The failure of their philosophy is in understanding that replacing a royalty or a "corporation" or a monarch with a totalitarian government is only replacing one "ruling class" for another. A fallacy which we see full bore in the present administration as well.

They definitely didn't espouse the golden rule, far from it, and the USSR under Stalin is the closest I can come to the fulfillment of their philosophy, (Of course, Obama is certainly in the running today), although in reality, the 1917 Revolution ONLY proved that even the proletariat, when successful in their revolt and becoming the ruling class themselves inflicted just as much pain and suffering on a new proletariat or those of their former class who were left behind. Of course, as I wrote in a different post, faith and hope are anathema to the existence of any totalitarian sutocracy, whatever flavor you choose.

Tom

ARMY STRONG!! This We'll Defend.

From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:38 AM
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"Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be."

Bear


From what some of the posters on this e-mail string are writing, it does seem you are correct, Bear.

I had been aware that people like that existed, but I rarely meet anyone like that.

I certainly have not talked to anyone before who espouses a white separatist viewpoint like some on this list do.

One of the reasons we chose to live where we live was because of the racial diversity.
And the area I live in has only become much more racially and ethnically diverse.

In addition to my son's first friend who was black, one of my daughter's pre-school pals was Muslim with a white dad
and a mom from Singapore (she was really interesting). Currently, each of my kids have a varied group of friends,
with daughter being close to a girl with Pakistani heritage, and my son with a boy whose family comes from India, and is
Hindu.

In my job, I see children and people from all over the world.
Everyone I work with treats them all with respect. If anyone is hating any of these children, they are certainly keeping it to themselves.

Also, Tom, what are you saying that Neitsche, Marx, Hegel and Engel believed? The Golden Rule? Or that we as a species will never follow the golden rule?

Many cultures have a version of the golden rule.. I had a poster once, it was decades old and it had all the
different versions printed on it. I put it on the refrigerator when my kids were little. Now there is an organization that
has done the same thing. It is just such a basic way of thinking that helps prevent problems from

And somehow, a crucial part of this discussion has been omitted, the part where JimmyJumshade spoke of racism as a natural defense mechanism created by nature, or something like that. It was his coment that I replied to.

Several passages in the New Testament quote Jesus of Nazareth espousing the golden rule, including the following:
Matthew 7:12
12Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Luke 6:31
31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
Luke 10:25-28
25And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 26He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? 27And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. 28And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
The passage in the book of Luke then continues with Jesus answering the question, "Who is my neighbor?", by telling the parable of the Good Samaritan, indicating that "your neighbour" means a total stranger, or someone that happens to be nearby. Jesus' teaching, however, goes beyond the negative formulation of not doing what one would not like done to themselves, to the positive formulation of actively doing good to another that, if the situations were reversed, one would desire that the other would do for them. This formulation, as indicated in the parable of the Good Samaritan, emphasises the needs for positive action that brings benefit to another, not simply restraining oneself from negative activities that hurt another. Taken as a rule of judgement, both formulations of the golden rule, the negative and positive, are equally applicable.[25]




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Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 9:56:54 AM

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Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be.

Bear

--- On Sun, 12/6/09, Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 10:19 AM
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Actually Nietsche, Hegel, Marx, and Engel believed that..

Tom

ARMY STRONG!! This We'll Defend.

From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:44 PM
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So, you are saying that as a species we can never treat each other as we would like to be treated, with understanding, love
and respect?

I don't think this is what you mean, but it is coming off that way.

Why accept things as they are? Actually, new ideas are rarely accepted quickly. Of course the idea of racial equality
has been around for quite some time but it is clear not everyone has gotten the memo!

You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature? Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten. They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together. My son
is white and the first friend was black. My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy. He simply
enjoyed his company.

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From: Jimmy Jumshade <jimmybug@rocketmail.com>
To: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>; phayes9402@comcast.net; Judy Hayner <edpals2@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 11:09:36 AM
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Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 8:43 AM
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Claudette, Patty seems to have focused an unimportant aspect of your note, which made an excellent point about
the fear behind the rationalization of racism.

And while I'm sure she didn't intend this, her comment enabled Predator then to put down the French ...

Another on this list has decried blocking the racist component on this list as censorship and against
freedom of speech.

If I have learned one thing by being on this list, it is that arguing with people only polarizes their positions. It does not change anyone's mind.

I suspect those who deny the majority of people on earth their humanity will only be cheered if they upset us.

I do not feel it is my duty to provide them with a forum for their fear and hatreds.

I agree with you there is no point in attempting discussion with them, and I take them off the list every time I send an
e-mail.

If the rest of you wish to argue with them and give their positions credibility, that is your right.




From: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>
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Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:25:02 AM

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Patty, what did I ever do to you to make you hate me so much? You seem to have this need to challenge everything I write. This one is just silly.

Claudette is a French name. http://www.behindthename.com/name/claudette

CLAUDETTE
Gender: Feminine
Usage: French
Pronounced: klo-DET [key]
French feminine form of CLAUDIUS

Konola is a very common Finnish Name. In fact if you google "Konola" you will find that most of the information that comes up is about a Finnish racing team, a well known Finnish artist, and an Nokia executive-in Finland.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBR_enUS274US274&q=Konola


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I'm curious as to how someone could tell that Claudette Konola is of French and Finnish descent. Maybe I'm just missing something but it doesn't appear that obvious to me.

Patty
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Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you, and your E-mails are going into my junk mail box where they are automatically deleted so long as you continue to send them. You are trying to look rational, but to me you are scared shitless that you may have to share power with people of color. By the way, you should be able to see from my name that my ethnic background is French and Finnish. I am a white woman who hopes there are no other white women willing to breed with the likes of you.

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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

So - you have great hostility toward White People - right?

Nobody else ever does bad - it's just white people

You probably applaude when black power raises it's ugly fist as they did in washington state lately and killed some police officers - and when laraza trys to take over America and even they murder black people in the LA area (have you heard?)

Did you hear about the blacks that broke into a wichita home and after forcing the white women to do all kinds of things for them and to each other - almost all of the white people there were killed. Of course that's okay too - right?

I used to know a guy named grant bruer - he said and correctly that blacks are a very basic people and are wired for the congo. He said they couldn't change that if htey wanted to and I believe he was right. Living in a refined decent society is beyond them.

John Hansen

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<<<The Nazi Party's racial policies and thinking was ENTIRELY Darwinism. THe idea of a Master race, of inferior races, of racial purity, WAS ALL DARWINISM APPLIED.

So according to YOUR beliefs (not mine) MIGHT DOES MAKE RIGHT. THAT IS WHAT NAZIS BELIEVED. If you have the power to take something, then you have a right to it.>>>


That's because all the top Nazis, all the way to Hitler, were filthy sodomite edomite kikes pretending to be "jews", not Christians (which 99% of Germans are--and Turks are NOT Germans).

In 9 years of living in Germany, I never met a single German who thought he was an "Aryan", or that Hitler was his spiritual leader, or that Nazis did anything any better for Germany than nigger obama banana did for the US, or that Darwin was anything but the simple, uneducated, untrained, unscientific child that even DARWIN himself admitted that he was (even though even he had the sense to reject his own childish ramblings about "speciation" before he died):

http://jacobisrael.sytes.net/darwin.htm

http://jacobisrael.sytes.net/evolution.htm

Germans are superior because they're the Tribe of Judah and God MADE them that way right from the GETGO, not because of "evolution", or anything filthy kike Hitler ever did or said, up to and including "his invention" of the Volkswagen which Hitler had NOTHING to do with.

Guess what. Al Gore didn't invent the internet either. Germans did.

John Knight








From: John Hansen
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 5:42 AM
To: Jack Stone
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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


You forgot to mention the ADL, SPLC, ACLU, AIPAC, JDL, -TELL THEM MIGHT DOES NOT MAKE RIGHT.
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Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?



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But might DOES make right in your neo-Nazi philosophy.

NOT IN MINE. In my philosophy, all people are created equal by God, and as the Bible says, heaven will be fileld with people "from every tribe from every tongue from every people from every nation."

BUT YOUR RACE-BASED PHILOSOPHY is specifically based on Darwinism.

The Nazi Party's racial policies and thinking was ENTIRELY Darwinism. THe idea of a Master race, of inferior races, of racial purity, WAS ALL DARWINISM APPLIED.

So according to YOUR beliefs (not mine) MIGHT DOES MAKE RIGHT. THAT IS WHAT NAZIS BELIEVED. If you have the power to take something, then you have a right to it.

The Germans had a right to take over territory siply because they could.

The Germans were destined to rule the Earth simply because they could.

The historical imperative favored the strong.

SO WHEN ANTI-SEMITES LIE AND SAY THAT JEWS CONTROL EVERYTHING, THEY ARE DECLARING THAT THE JEWS ARE THE MASTER RACE and that the historical imperative is for Jews to take over the Earth and all other racs to -- in a Darwinian sense -- fade away.

That's now that I believe.

But that is what you are saying everytie you spread conspiracy theories that the jews control everything.

Jack Stone




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On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:48 AM, John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

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They are pretty much in control of everything and wanting it all.

>Sounds like, to hear you tell it, the Jews are simply superior human beings to others.

No - might doesn't make right - charles manson wasn't superior he was the most ruthless.

Jews are the most crooked and the ethnocentricism gives them an advatage over others and they use it.

That's why they won't give their full allegiance to America - they are loyal only to other jews.

As for the germans / jews - I don't know much about that.
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White People are no inferior to anyone - their biggest fault is being too kind, generous and tolerant.

But, we're learning.

John Hansen

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Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?




But according to you, the Jews are rich and in control of everything.

So nothing is holding the Jews back, is it?

Sounds like, to hear you tell it, the Jews are simply superior human beings to others.

Clearly the Jews are superior to all Germans .... at least to hear you tell the story.

You claim that the Germans were defeated by Jews in WW1 and WW2, that Churchill, Eisenhower and Roosevelt were all Jews, and Stalin as well.

So according to you, the Jews whupped the Germans butts twice in a row.

Clearly to follow the Nazi doctrine based on Darwin of the suprerior race dominanting, you should commit suicide because YOU are the inferior race. Accordign to YOUR Darwinist Nazi doctrine the Jews SHOULD (ought to) crowd out all other people and all other people should be extinct.

According to MY belief, by contrast, God died for all of humanity and race is irrelevant.


Jack Stone


On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 4:04 PM, John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

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Fixation on being a victim prevents Blacks and neo-Nazis alike from taking responsibility for their own lives and establishing a viable and workable, functioning society in their community.

That applies to the jews who spout victimhood at every opportunity.
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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?




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It is not racism to cite facts.

It may be motivated by racism to invent false facts and/or misrepresent them.

It is also racist to leap the unwarranted conclusion that the facts are explaiend by skin color rather than CULTURE.

There is no doubt that the culture which has come to be normal and accepted among SOME (perhaps most) Black communities -- AND ALSO AMONG MANY WHITE COMMUNITIES -- accepts as "normal" a lifestyle that is immoral and dysfunctional.

Fixation on being a victim prevents Blacks and neo-Nazis alike from taking responsibility for their own lives and establishing a viable and workable, functioning society in their community.

This is the same lifestyle and system of amorality that liberals are trying desperately to instill into ALL of American society.

And indeed it is the same culture of immorality and victimhood that prevails among Germans (Teutons) and neo-Nazis. The SAME irresponsibility and fixation on being a victim is at work among the neo-Nazis as with many Black cultures.

This is the belief system that the liberals are tying to make all of American society live by. It will be as destructive to all of society as it has been in the post-slavery Black community.

Jack Stone



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On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 9:03 AM, John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

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IT's not wonder we are down on those violent other races.

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Explain this timmy. WHY are you animals so much more likely to
attack a white man? WHY are your own people having sex with 12 yr old
girls who have 5 litters by the time they're 18??

http://amren.com/
http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.pdf

Major Findings
• Police and the justice system are not biased against minorities.
Crime Rates
• Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to
commit murder,
and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
• When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times
more likely
than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a
knife.
• Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white
rate, and
Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate....
• The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the
percentage of
the population that is black and Hispanic.
Interracial Crime
• Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every
year involving
blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15
percent.
• Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against
blacks. Fortyfive
percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10
percent are
Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of
their victims are
black.
• Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent
crime against
a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
• Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated
hate crimes
against whites than vice versa.
Gangs
• Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
• Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of
youth gangs.
Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more
likely.
Incarceration
• Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled,
from 139
to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from
320,000 to 1.39
million.
• Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites.
Hispanics are
three times more likely.



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Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:45 AM
Subject: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


John Hanson asked simply:

"So - you have great hostility toward White People - right?"

An obvious racist known on the net as "Claudette Konola" whined, and thus begun a whole flurry of self-hating email:

"John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you [ad infinitum]... "

It's a simple question. And while you think you didn't answer it, Claudette, we know from your response that you DO HATE White people just as John surmised.

Now here's another question. What exactly is it about the US Constitution which makes you muds think YOU have a right to free speech that us WHITES do not have? Why can YOU hurl such insults, and we can't even ask a simple question of you? Why do you HATE simple discussions about race so much. I'd really like to know.

John Knight






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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


I don't agree with everything, or most things that Predator writes......but I know him and I know that he writes the things he does to get the reaction you and Claudette are displaying......in other words you gave him what he wants. If someone wants to block someone why do they feel the need to make a big deal about it as if the blockee is going to have an emotional breakdown and have their lives ruined? It's just not that important to most people......if a friend said I'm going to block you I would care but someone you don't even know!

Patty
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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


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Claudette, Patty seems to have focused an unimportant aspect of your note, which made an excellent point about
the fear behind the rationalization of racism.


And while I'm sure she didn't intend this, her comment enabled Predator then to put down the French ....


Another on this list has decried blocking the racist component on this list as censorship and against
freedom of speech.


If I have learned one thing by being on this list, it is that arguing with people only polarizes their positions. It does not change anyone's mind.


I suspect those who deny the majority of people on earth their humanity will only be cheered if they upset us.


I do not feel it is my duty to provide them with a forum for their fear and hatreds.


I agree with you there is no point in attempting discussion with them, and I take them off the list every time I send an
e-mail.


If the rest of you wish to argue with them and give their positions credibility, that is your right.




From: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:25:02 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


Patty, what did I ever do to you to make you hate me so much? You seem to have this need to challenge everything I write. This one is just silly.

Claudette is a French name. http://www.behindthename.com/name/claudette

CLAUDETTE
Gender: Feminine
Usage: French
Pronounced: klo-DET [key]
French feminine form of CLAUDIUS

Konola is a very common Finnish Name. In fact if you google “Konola” you will find that most of the information that comes up is about a Finnish racing team, a well known Finnish artist, and an Nokia executive—in Finland.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBR_enUS274US274&q=Konola


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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

I'm curious as to how someone could tell that Claudette Konola is of French and Finnish descent. Maybe I'm just missing something but it doesn't appear that obvious to me.

Patty
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Jacob,

I have recently seeked info on what the Christian identity movement is all about and have found that most of what I have believed for years falls in line with the CIM. I enjoy reading your posts. I would appreciate it if you would put me on your email list!

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From: Jacob Israel <jk@israeliteidentity.com>
Subject: [TWOMIFTG] "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
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<<<Judy, thank you. And you are right, hate is such a strong emotion that I don’t have time for it. >>>

What in the .ell!!! do you think the following statement is from if it is NOT from PURE WHITE RACIAL HATRED?:

<<<"John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you [ad infinitum]... ">>>

You have PLENTY OF TIME FOR HATRED, don't you? That's ALL you've done, so far.

We all know what you two mean by "It always amuses me that white men who don’t like minorities very much, including women, seem to think that anybody who disagrees with them must not be white also", don't we? Free speech applies ONLY to you and those you AGREE with, and nobody else, right?

John Knight



ps--and just for the record, God's Enmity for White Race Traitor women is on par with His Hatred for Esau, if not more severe:

Was not Esau Jacob's brother? says the LORD: yet I loved Jacob, but hated Esau; I made his mountains a waste, his heritage a desert for jackals, Malachai 1:3
As it is written: "I loved Jacob but hated Esau," Romans 9:13




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Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


Judy, thank you. And you are right, hate is such a strong emotion that I don’t have time for it.

It always amuses me that white men who don’t like minorities very much, including women, seem to think that anybody who disagrees with them must not be white also. I also find it amusing that some of those same people seem to think that freedom of speech means that I can’t be selective in who I accept into my in-box. I wouldn’t invite any of these people into my home, why would I invite them into my computer? The free speech amendment is all about the government not stopping you from saying something. There is nothing in the constitution, or good manners, that says I have to listen to bigotry. (Especially, since it is still a mystery to me how I got on this list in the first place. LOL)

From: JUDYFULLER007@aol.com [mailto:JUDYFULLER007@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:04 PM



Listen, nitwit. Claudette does not hate anybody.

In a message dated 12/5/2009 1:39:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jk@israeliteidentity.com writes:
John Hanson asked simply:

"So - you have great hostility toward White People - right?"

An obvious racist known on the net as "Claudette Konola" whined, and thus begun a whole flurry of self-hating email:

"John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you [ad infinitum]... "

It's a simple question. And while you think you didn't answer it, Claudette, we know from your response that you DO HATE White people just as John surmised.

Now here's another question. What exactly is it about the US Constitution which makes you muds think YOU have a right to free speech that us WHITES do not have? Why can YOU hurl such insults, and we can't even ask a simple question of you? Why do you HATE simple discussions about race so much. I'd really like to know.

John Knight










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Adolph Hitler was not Jew. He was brought up in the roman catholic church, but he favored Luther and Calvin.


Hitler Jewish?
Question
Hello! I am a ninth grader and I have been reasearching the holocaust for three years now and I am very interested in it. I have a question. My English teacher told me that Hitlers grandmother was Jewish and I was wondering if he did to her what he did to her what he did to the other Jewish people. Thank you very much
Harry W. Mazal OBE answers:
I am one of the persons who responds to questions about the Holocaust. It is possible that you will receive answers from my other colleagues too.
Hitler's grandmother was not Jewish.
There are some rumors hinting that Hitler's grandfather was Jewish. Few, if any, of the reputable historians on the Holocaust believe that this is so. It is more likely that Hitler tried to keep the murky history of his family quite secret because there was a high incidence of insanity and feeble-mindedness in his ancestors.
Rumors die hard, though.
One of Hitler's henchmen, Hans Frank, declared during the Nuremberg Trials in 1945-46, that Hitler's grandmother had worked in the town of Graz as a servant in the home of a Jewish family named Frankenberger. He further claimed that she was seduced by the head of the household and that Hitler's grandfather was the result of that liaison.
A subsequent analysis of Frank's statement by Simon Wiesenthal disclosed that there was no evidence of any Jewish family named Frankenberger ever living in Graz. What is more, Jews had been driven out of Graz in the 15th century and had not been allowed to return until 1856, nearly twenty years after Hitler's grandfather had been born.
Hitler's grandmother's maiden name was Schickelgruber. There is considerable evidence that this family produced abnormal progeny. Examples are: one of Hitler's relatives through his mother's side committed suicide in 1920, another, Aloisha had been placed in an insane asylum, another was "feeble-minded," and yet another was retarded.
According to the article from which I am quoting this material:
"Hitler's real fear, then, was not that someone would discover that he has a Jewish grandfather, but that it would someday come to light that he carried a hereditary disposition toward mental illness and retardation."
You might ask your English teacher to go to a good library and see the following article:
"Hitler's Family Secret: A file recovered from the Nazi Archives tells of a Gestapo investigation into the Fuehrer's murky family history."
By: Ben S. Swearingen
Civilization: The Magazine of the Library of Congress Volume 2, Number 2, Arcg/April 1995, PP. 54-55
Harry W. Mazal OBE
Richard J. Green adds a comment:
Ron Rosenbaum's book Explaining Hitler contains a thorough discussion of many of the theories regarding Hitler's lineage.
Question:
I realize that Harry Mazal OBE has addressed this question. But here's this:
Hitler's father, Alois, was the 'illegitimate' son of Maria Anna Schicklgruber-she refused to name the father. This has led to much speculation, but the reality is that we have no certainty as to the father. Thus, Hitler was unable to produce the certificate of origin he required of every German citizen on hazard of death. The various rumours suggest as father of Alois: a Jew called Frankenberger, Johann Nepomuk Hüttler[1a], or one Trummelschlager who acted as godfather. Illegitimacy was widespread in the Waldviertel, now estimated at about 40%. The most persistent rumour is that his father was a Jew, possibly an itinerant trader, at Graz. What little evidence there is, supports that rumour. (From http://www.abelard.org/Hitler/Hitler.htm#introduction.)
I am a 47 year old Jew. I would hate to think that this is true. It is terrible enough to know what awful things were done to us without having to think that we did it to ourselves.
Of course, even knowing that people of Christian heritage doesn't avoid the irony - only removes it by a few thousand years: The first Christians were Jewish and it was the Jews who originally created the religion.
Gord McFee answers:
***, this question has been asked many times before. I can understand your feelings on this issue. The best research I have seen on the issue is by Werner Maser in his book _Hitler: Legend, Myth & Reality_. After exhaustive research, he concludes very convincingly that Hitler was *not* part Jewish. Check out chapter 1 of the book if you want all the details.
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From: Jacob Israel
Date: 12/8/2009 6:28:45 PM
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Subject: [israeliteidentity] "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
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<<<The Nazi Party's racial policies and thinking was ENTIRELY Darwinism. THe idea of a Master race, of inferior races, of racial purity, WAS ALL DARWINISM APPLIED.

So according to YOUR beliefs (not mine) MIGHT DOES MAKE RIGHT. THAT IS WHAT NAZIS BELIEVED. If you have the power to take something, then you have a right to it.>>>


That's because all the top Nazis, all the way to Hitler, were filthy sodomite edomite kikes pretending to be "jews", not Christians (which 99% of Germans are--and Turks are NOT Germans).

In 9 years of living in Germany, I never met a single German who thought he was an "Aryan", or that Hitler was his spiritual leader, or that Nazis did anything any better for Germany than nigger obama banana did for the US, or that Darwin was anything but the simple, uneducated, untrained, unscientific child that even DARWIN himself admitted that he was (even though even he had the sense to reject his own childish ramblings about "speciation" before he died):

http://jacobisrael.sytes.net/darwin.htm

http://jacobisrael.sytes.net/evolution.htm

Germans are superior because they're the Tribe of Judah and God MADE them that way right from the GETGO, not because of "evolution", or anything filthy kike Hitler ever did or said, up to and including "his invention" of the Volkswagen which Hitler had NOTHING to do with.

Guess what. Al Gore didn't invent the internet either. Germans did.

John Knight








From: John Hansen
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 5:42 AM
To: Jack Stone
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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


You forgot to mention the ADL, SPLC, ACLU, AIPAC, JDL, -TELL THEM MIGHT DOES NOT MAKE RIGHT.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Stone
To: John Hansen
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Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?



But might DOES make right in your neo-Nazi philosophy.

NOT IN MINE. In my philosophy, all people are created equal by God, and as the Bible says, heaven will be fileld with people "from every tribe from every tongue from every people from every nation."

BUT YOUR RACE-BASED PHILOSOPHY is specifically based on Darwinism.

The Nazi Party's racial policies and thinking was ENTIRELY Darwinism. THe idea of a Master race, of inferior races, of racial purity, WAS ALL DARWINISM APPLIED.

So according to YOUR beliefs (not mine) MIGHT DOES MAKE RIGHT. THAT IS WHAT NAZIS BELIEVED. If you have the power to take something, then you have a right to it.

The Germans had a right to take over territory siply because they could.

The Germans were destined to rule the Earth simply because they could.

The historical imperative favored the strong.

SO WHEN ANTI-SEMITES LIE AND SAY THAT JEWS CONTROL EVERYTHING, THEY ARE DECLARING THAT THE JEWS ARE THE MASTER RACE and that the historical imperative is for Jews to take over the Earth and all other racs to -- in a Darwinian sense -- fade away.

That's now that I believe.

But that is what you are saying everytie you spread conspiracy theories that the jews control everything.

Jack Stone




On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:48 AM, John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

They are pretty much in control of everything and wanting it all.

>Sounds like, to hear you tell it, the Jews are simply superior human beings to others.

No - might doesn't make right - charles manson wasn't superior he was the most ruthless.

Jews are the most crooked and the ethnocentricism gives them an advatage over others and they use it.

That's why they won't give their full allegiance to America - they are loyal only to other jews.

As for the germans / jews - I don't know much about that.

White People are no inferior to anyone - their biggest fault is being too kind, generous and tolerant.

But, we're learning.

John Hansen

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?




But according to you, the Jews are rich and in control of everything.

So nothing is holding the Jews back, is it?

Sounds like, to hear you tell it, the Jews are simply superior human beings to others.

Clearly the Jews are superior to all Germans .... at least to hear you tell the story.

You claim that the Germans were defeated by Jews in WW1 and WW2, that Churchill, Eisenhower and Roosevelt were all Jews, and Stalin as well.

So according to you, the Jews whupped the Germans butts twice in a row.

Clearly to follow the Nazi doctrine based on Darwin of the suprerior race dominanting, you should commit suicide because YOU are the inferior race. Accordign to YOUR Darwinist Nazi doctrine the Jews SHOULD (ought to) crowd out all other people and all other people should be extinct.

According to MY belief, by contrast, God died for all of humanity and race is irrelevant.


Jack Stone


On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 4:04 PM, John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
Fixation on being a victim prevents Blacks and neo-Nazis alike from taking responsibility for their own lives and establishing a viable and workable, functioning society in their community.

That applies to the jews who spout victimhood at every opportunity.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Stone
To: John Hansen
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Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?




It is not racism to cite facts.

It may be motivated by racism to invent false facts and/or misrepresent them.

It is also racist to leap the unwarranted conclusion that the facts are explaiend by skin color rather than CULTURE.

There is no doubt that the culture which has come to be normal and accepted among SOME (perhaps most) Black communities -- AND ALSO AMONG MANY WHITE COMMUNITIES -- accepts as "normal" a lifestyle that is immoral and dysfunctional.

Fixation on being a victim prevents Blacks and neo-Nazis alike from taking responsibility for their own lives and establishing a viable and workable, functioning society in their community.

This is the same lifestyle and system of amorality that liberals are trying desperately to instill into ALL of American society.

And indeed it is the same culture of immorality and victimhood that prevails among Germans (Teutons) and neo-Nazis. The SAME irresponsibility and fixation on being a victim is at work among the neo-Nazis as with many Black cultures.

This is the belief system that the liberals are tying to make all of American society live by. It will be as destructive to all of society as it has been in the post-slavery Black community.

Jack Stone



On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 9:03 AM, John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

IT's not wonder we are down on those violent other races.

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Explain this timmy. WHY are you animals so much more likely to
attack a white man? WHY are your own people having sex with 12 yr old
girls who have 5 litters by the time they're 18??

http://amren.com/
http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.pdf

Major Findings
• Police and the justice system are not biased against minorities.
Crime Rates
• Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to
commit murder,
and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
• When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times
more likely
than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a
knife.
• Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white
rate, and
Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate....
• The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the
percentage of
the population that is black and Hispanic.
Interracial Crime
• Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every
year involving
blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15
percent.
• Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against
blacks. Fortyfive
percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10
percent are
Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of
their victims are
black.
• Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent
crime against
a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
• Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated
hate crimes
against whites than vice versa.
Gangs
• Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
• Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of
youth gangs.
Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more
likely.
Incarceration
• Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled,
from 139
to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from
320,000 to 1.39
million.
• Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites.
Hispanics are
three times more likely.



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Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:45 AM
Subject: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


John Hanson asked simply:

"So - you have great hostility toward White People - right?"

An obvious racist known on the net as "Claudette Konola" whined, and thus begun a whole flurry of self-hating email:

"John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you [ad infinitum]... "

It's a simple question. And while you think you didn't answer it, Claudette, we know from your response that you DO HATE White people just as John surmised.

Now here's another question. What exactly is it about the US Constitution which makes you muds think YOU have a right to free speech that us WHITES do not have? Why can YOU hurl such insults, and we can't even ask a simple question of you? Why do you HATE simple discussions about race so much. I'd really like to know.

John Knight






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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


I don't agree with everything, or most things that Predator writes......but I know him and I know that he writes the things he does to get the reaction you and Claudette are displaying......in other words you gave him what he wants. If someone wants to block someone why do they feel the need to make a big deal about it as if the blockee is going to have an emotional breakdown and have their lives ruined? It's just not that important to most people......if a friend said I'm going to block you I would care but someone you don't even know!

Patty
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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


Claudette, Patty seems to have focused an unimportant aspect of your note, which made an excellent point about
the fear behind the rationalization of racism.


And while I'm sure she didn't intend this, her comment enabled Predator then to put down the French ....


Another on this list has decried blocking the racist component on this list as censorship and against
freedom of speech.


If I have learned one thing by being on this list, it is that arguing with people only polarizes their positions. It does not change anyone's mind.


I suspect those who deny the majority of people on earth their humanity will only be cheered if they upset us.


I do not feel it is my duty to provide them with a forum for their fear and hatreds.


I agree with you there is no point in attempting discussion with them, and I take them off the list every time I send an
e-mail.


If the rest of you wish to argue with them and give their positions credibility, that is your right.




From: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:25:02 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


Patty, what did I ever do to you to make you hate me so much? You seem to have this need to challenge everything I write. This one is just silly.

Claudette is a French name. http://www.behindthename.com/name/claudette

CLAUDETTE
Gender: Feminine
Usage: French
Pronounced: klo-DET [key]
French feminine form of CLAUDIUS

Konola is a very common Finnish Name. In fact if you google “Konola” you will find that most of the information that comes up is about a Finnish racing team, a well known Finnish artist, and an Nokia executive—in Finland.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBR_enUS274US274&q=Konola


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I'm curious as to how someone could tell that Claudette Konola is of French and Finnish descent. Maybe I'm just missing something but it doesn't appear that obvious to me.

Patty
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Where did he say he favoured Luther and Calvin? Give us a citation we can verify.

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From: Terry Gabrich
Date: 12/8/2009 5:38:00 PM
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Adolph Hitler was not Jew. He was brought up in the roman catholic church, but he favored Luther and Calvin.







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These eevents should be worrisome for every Patriotic American John Hansen
=======================================

Members of all branches of the United States Military will soon be
facing a most critical decision. The European Union Times is reporting here
that Obama is using the deployment of additional troops to Afghanistan to
cover for the movement of some 200,000 troops, presently on duty in
countries other than Iraq and Afghanistan, to USNORTHCOM to prepare for the
"expected outbreak of Civil War within the United States before the end of
winter."

It would appear those who call themselves "public servants" believe
the people they supposedly serve have become dissatisfied with their job
performance and will resort to some form of civil disobedience, which will
necessitate military intervention. According to the article, Obama believes
the reason for this civil unrest to be an expected "implosion" of this
country's financial systems. Should these events occur, members of the
military would be forced to decide whether they would support their
government, which gave hundreds of billions to government cronies in the
financial sector, or their country.

A prudent man would speculate if the government so fears coming civil
unrest, will they move to seize firearms throughout the country and use
these military forces along with law enforcement to do so? I believe the
answer can be found in the events surrounding the aftermath of Hurricane
Katrina. Government forces there not only seized firearms from private
citizens but also relocated many citizens against their will.

Millions of Americans have prayed for the safety of the military as
they fight the government's wars all over the planet. Many believe the
military to be defending the country from enemies that would take our
weapons and our freedoms. What will their actions be when the US military
becomes that enemy? Will the military willingly participate in such acts?
Such are questions the future holds.

The government has spent decades defining those who oppose its
unlawful exploits as enemies of the state. Those who can or will not
differentiate between the government and the country have fallen hook, line
and sinker for this demonization of those who demand the government operate
within the constraints of the Constitution and moral law. Most of those who
blindly support the illegal actions of the government have been bought and
paid for with the taxes of those who actually produce something.
Unfortunately, primary among those bought-and-paid-for entities are law
enforcement and the military.

Both political parties have conducted this demonization of true
Patriots. While the democrats have been traditionally anti-gun and liberty,
the republicans bought into the program with the fascist Patriot Act and the
illegal, unconstitutional War on Terror. The two dominant political parties
in this country are two wings of the same vulture: blatant in-your-face
socialism. There are no answers to our problems to be found in either
political party.

Many on the right have bought into the ideas expressed by leaders of
the military that all who oppose the state and its illegal agenda should be
treated no differently than the "insurgents" the military has been facing in
Iraq and Afghanistan. Nowhere is that better illustrated than here where a
law enforcement publication is advocating military tactics promoted by
General David Petraeus be used against those whom the state defines as its
enemies. While the article in Guns and Weapons for Law Enforcement speaks
specifically of gangs and drug activity, don't forget the Department of
Homeland Security has defined millions of patriotic Americans and veterans
as possible domestic terrorists in its report sent to LE agencies on April
7th of 2009. If you wonder if you fit the definition of possible domestic
terrorist, you should check here.

If the European Union Times report is correct and Obama is moving to
strengthen USNORTHCOM with anywhere near the numbers mentioned, indicates
the fedgov fears its own citizens much more than it fears al Qaeda. Either
the government is anticipating a total financial breakdown, there are plans
to confiscate firearms, a new false flag event is in the works, or any
combination of the three. Either way, they plan on this event occurring
before spring of 2010.

On the minds of many Americans and politicians is exactly how will
the military and law enforcement react if told to confiscate firearms or
move American citizens to FEMA camps.

Consideration must be given to the militarization of law enforcement
entities in this country over the past few decades and our gradual decline
into a police state, thanks to the bogus War on Terror. That being said,
some police blogs such as this one indicate not all law enforcement
personnel are on board with these illegal and corrupt practices. When
considering possible actions of military personnel one must be aware of the
felons and gang members who became part of the military when recruiters were
falling short of their goals. Nothing could be better for a felon or a
gang-banger than to actually be ordered to commit crimes with impunity. At
some point in time, any true American serving in the military will be forced
to ask themselves exactly what and whom they are defending and exactly what
became of the "home of the free?"

What will be the reaction of the soldier from Colorado who is
confiscating guns and placing so-called domestic terrorists in detention
camps in Ohio when he gets word other soldiers are doing the same to his
family and friends back home? Who will soldiers and law enforcement officers
side with when push comes to shove: the government who has given over a
trillion dollars to their cronies in the financial industry, failed to
provide their brother/sister veterans competent medical care, denied
disability benefits, denied compensation for treatment as prisoners of war,
placed single parents in confinement and taken their children, or their
family and friends who have lost their jobs and are seeing their homes and
farms foreclosed by the same bankers who received huge bonuses from the
bailout money? If military and law enforcement personnel begin to side with
the citizens, will the fedgov call in United Nations forces to subdue those
who cherish personal freedom and will fight to retain it?

Regardless of which series of events occur, Americans will be the
losers. Brace yourselves and prepare, this is going to get real ugly.



December 7, 2009

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Whatever other differences we may have, John, I'm with you on this being "worrisome", to put it mildly. Downright spooky is more like it. I've heard variations on this theme from other sources, by the way, with differing versions of the expected time line and who's behind it or to blame. I'll pass this on to some other people for their information and feedback.

You may have seen comments I've made over the past year about the economy having died in the fall of '08, and ever since, our so-called news media have been reporting the worms crawling in and out as signs of life in the corpse. I've been wondering how long the illusion of "recovery" can possibly be held together. Truth be told it's already been longer than I expected-- and I keep hoping it'll last a while longer so I can get more prepared. . . You get some lovely sunny weather when a hurricane's on the way-- but that's because all the clouds have been sucked into the storm.

Regards,
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Sent: Wed, Dec 9, 2009 6:25 pm
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


These events should be worrisome for every Patriotic American John Hansen
=======================================

Members of all branches of the United States Military will soon be facing a most critical decision. The European Union Times is reporting here that Obama is using the deployment of additional troops to Afghanistan to cover for the movement of some 200,000 troops, presently on duty in countries other than Iraq and Afghanistan, to USNORTHCOM to prepare for the "expected outbreak of Civil War within the United States before the end of winter."

It would appear those who call themselves "public servants" believe the people they supposedly serve have become dissatisfied with their job performance and will resort to some form of civil disobedience, which will necessitate military intervention. According to the article, Obama believes the reason for this civil unrest to be an expected "implosion" of this country's financial systems. Should these events occur, members of the military would be forced to decide whether they would support their government, which gave hundreds of billions to government cronies in the financial sector, or their country.

A prudent man would speculate if the government so fears coming civil unrest, will they move to seize firearms throughout the country and use these military forces along with law enforcement to do so? I believe the answer can be found in the events surrounding the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. Government forces there not only seized firearms from private citizens but also relocated many citizens against their will.

Millions of Americans have prayed for the safety of the military as they fight the government's wars all over the planet. Many believe the military to be defending the country from enemies that would take our weapons and our freedoms. What will their actions be when the US military becomes that enemy? Will the military willingly participate in such acts? Such are questions the future holds.

The government has spent decades defining those who oppose its unlawful exploits as enemies of the state. Those who can or will not differentiate between the government and the country have fallen hook, line and sinker for this demonization of those who demand the government operate within the constraints of the Constitution and moral law. Most of those who blindly support the illegal actions of the government have been bought and paid for with the taxes of those who actually produce something. Unfortunately, primary among those bought-and-paid-for entities are law enforcement and the military.

Both political parties have conducted this demonization of true Patriots. While the democrats have been traditionally anti-gun and liberty, the republicans bought into the program with the fascist Patriot Act and the illegal, unconstitutional War on Terror. The two dominant political parties in this country are two wings of the same vulture: blatant in-your-face socialism. There are no answers to our problems to be found in either political party.

Many on the right have bought into the ideas expressed by leaders of the military that all who oppose the state and its illegal agenda should be treated no differently than the "insurgents" the military has been facing in Iraq and Afghanistan. Nowhere is that better illustrated than here where a law enforcement publication is advocating military tactics promoted by General David Petraeus be used against those whom the state defines as its enemies. While the article in Guns and Weapons for Law Enforcement speaks specifically of gangs and drug activity, don't forget the Department of Homeland Security has defined millions of patriotic Americans and veterans as possible domestic terrorists in its report sent to LE agencies on April 7th of 2009. If you wonder if you fit the definition of possible domestic terrorist, you should check here.

If the European Union Times report is correct and Obama is moving to strengthen USNORTHCOM with anywhere near the numbers mentioned, indicates the fedgov fears its own citizens much more than it fears al Qaeda. Either the government is anticipating a total financial breakdown, there are plans to confiscate firearms, a new false flag event is in the works, or any combination of the three. Either way, they plan on this event occurring before spring of 2010.

On the minds of many Americans and politicians is exactly how will the military and law enforcement react if told to confiscate firearms or move American citizens to FEMA camps.

Consideration must be given to the militarization of law enforcement entities in this country over the past few decades and our gradual decline into a police state, thanks to the bogus War on Terror. That being said, some police blogs such as this one indicate not all law enforcement personnel are on board with these illegal and corrupt practices. When considering possible actions of military personnel one must be aware of the felons and gang members who became part of the military when recruiters were falling short of their goals. Nothing could be better for a felon or a gang-banger than to actually be ordered to commit crimes with impunity. At some point in time, any true American serving in the military will be forced to ask themselves exactly what and whom they are defending and exactly what became of the "home of the free?"

What will be the reaction of the soldier from Colorado who is confiscating guns and placing so-called domestic terrorists in detention camps in Ohio when he gets word other soldiers are doing the same to his family and friends back home? Who will soldiers and law enforcement officers side with when push comes to shove: the government who has given over a trillion dollars to their cronies in the financial industry, failed to provide their brother/sister veterans competent medical care, denied disability benefits, denied compensation for treatment as prisoners of war, placed single parents in confinement and taken their children, or their family and friends who have lost their jobs and are seeing their homes and farms foreclosed by the same bankers who received huge bonuses from the bailout money? If military and law enforcement personnel begin to side with the citizens, will the fedgov call in United Nations forces to subdue those who cherish personal freedom and will fight to retain it?

Regardless of which series of events occur, Americans will be the losers. Brace yourselves and prepare, this is going to get real ugly.

December 7, 2009

Michael Gaddy [send him mail], an Army veteran of Vietnam, Grenada, and Beirut, lives in the Four Corners area of the American Southwest.

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God says kind after its own kind, who cares if they are nice to you. Of course they are, blacks want to jump into the pants of your white female relatives. That is all they want to do. Hispanics and Asians also. GOD SAYS NO. You will suffer the consequences, and you will wish that you have listened to us.




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From: Jacob Israel
Date: 12/9/2009 12:41:37 PM
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<<<Xenophobia lives on. . . My brother, sisters, and myself all played with children of the so-called "other races", and (oh dear!) eventually dated them besides. And wonder of wonders, none of us ended up dead, beaten or pregnant, nor in any unusual danger of it. Matter of fact we had a really good time. >>>

Who gives a rat's .ss, mamzer algae?

That STILL does not give you a "right" to force you and yours on me and mine that's any greater than OUR right to free association with whom we please, does it?

Your use of the term "Xenophobia lives on" implies that you DO think you do! So let's set the record straight once and for all: NO YOU DO NOT!!! And exactly what is it about us honkies that you feel the need to impose your mamzer .sses on us in the first place?

Even though John doesn't have children and thus doesn't really grasp just how important it is to propagate His holy seed, he still understands the problem a BILLION times better than any of you mamzers ever will or can:

<<<I wouldn't let a kid of mine do anything with one of the other races - the next think you know if he is male he will be DEAD and if femail beaten and pregnant. To put them in that kind of danger is child abuse.>>>

http://jacobisrael.sytes.net/holyspirit.htm

100% AGREED, JOHN.

God bless you for standing up and being counted!!!

Sincerely,



John Knight





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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


Xenophobia lives on. . .

My brother, sisters, and myself all played with children of the so-called "other races", and (oh dear!) eventually dated them besides. And wonder of wonders, none of us ended up dead, beaten or pregnant, nor in any unusual danger of it. Matter of fact we had a really good time.
Al J





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From: John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Sun, Dec 6, 2009 11:22 pm
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


I wouldn't let a kid of mine do anything with one of the other races - the next think you know if he is male he will be DEAD and if femail beaten and pregnant.

To put them in that kind of danger is child abuse.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jacob Israel
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 12:10 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


<<<You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature? Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten. They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together. My son
is white and the first friend was black. My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy. He simply
enjoyed his company. >>>



Actually, "racism" was created by jews, not nature.

Do you know why the word is not in Scripture. There WAS no such concept in the entire Holy Bible, and in fact God punished Solomon severely for NOT being a racist, when he married the Egyptian daughter of the pharaoh:

And King Solomon loved many foreign [nikro, Strong's #5237] women, even the daughter of Pharaoh, Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians, Hittites; 1 Kings 11:1
Did not Solomon king of Israel sin by these things? yet among many nations was there no king like him, and he was beloved of his God, and God made him king over all Israel: nevertheless even him did foreign [nikro, Strong's #5237] women cause to sin. Nehemiah 13:26-27
http://fathersmanifesto.net/sin.htm

Do you know why it's not in the Declaration of Independence or the US Constitution? Because the word "racism" wasn't even coined until a century and a half after it was ratified, and even then it meant something the exact opposite of the way you're using it (it was equated to being a nationalist, or patriot, not necessarily bad traits).

There are more definitions of this word than there are people in the US. To a jew in Russia, a racist is a Russian who claims that only descendants of the Rus are Russians, which jews in Russia know they are not. To a jew in "Israel", a racist is a jew from Russia who they claim are "Russians pretending to be jews". When these "Israelis" then come to the US, they consider a "racist" to be one who upholds EXISTING immigration laws. Thus, to NOT be a racist to them, you must be a criminal or an outlaw. To a nigger in Africa, a racist is an American nigger, but to an American nigger, a racist is a WHITE man who simply wants to associate only with his own.

Of course it's ok for jews, niggers, and Mexican to be racists--it's only us honkies who can't.

John Knight






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Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


So you haven't seen much CHANGE? Do you still HOPE for it? I'd rather have a politician get elected and do nothing about our situation than one get elected on the premise of doing something but whom still never does. At least then I wouldn't feel blatantly lied to. It's not as if I'm not going to feel lied to anyway, but at least the situation could be KEPT AT BAY by not doing anything versus someone promising to FIX IT and then just adding more and more to it anyway.




From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Thanks, Tom. It has been years since I read any Neitsche and found him dark back then. I really have not studied Marx.
I have knowledge of his theories, but have not found them to be realistic.

Tried reading Hegel once in college, had a crush on a boy who was crazy for him, but never found it my cup of tea.

What are the specifics of what Obama is doing that lead you to say we are in a totalitarian regime ?

I am concerned about several things that are going on with this administration, but the these things are continuations of what
was begun in the Bush administration.








From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>

Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 11:36:46 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Judy, Those 4 philosophers had an extremely negative outlook on mankind and particularly of what they considered the "ruling class'. They all believed, in various degrees and small personal deviations, that a man was shaped by his work but that pleasure and happiness were determined by that ruling class and that the proletariat (the workers) had no choice in determining happiness or good. If he who controlled the means of production decided that workers would be happiest in taking one bath a month, it became the rule. That's why Marx, for example, predicted a proletariat revolution as those of the lower class faced a life of disappointment and frustration and that the revolution is inevitable. The failure of their philosophy is in understanding that replacing a royalty or a "corporation" or a monarch with a totalitarian government is only replacing one "ruling class" for another. A fallacy which we see full bore in the present administration as well.

They definitely didn't espouse the golden rule, far from it, and the USSR under Stalin is the closest I can come to the fulfillment of their philosophy, (Of course, Obama is certainly in the running today), although in reality, the 1917 Revolution ONLY proved that even the proletariat, when successful in their revolt and becoming the ruling class themselves inflicted just as much pain and suffering on a new proletariat or those of their former class who were left behind. Of course, as I wrote in a different post, faith and hope are anathema to the existence of any totalitarian sutocracy, whatever flavor you choose.

Tom

ARMY STRONG!! This We'll Defend.

From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


"Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be."

Bear


From what some of the posters on this e-mail string are writing, it does seem you are correct, Bear.

I had been aware that people like that existed, but I rarely meet anyone like that.

I certainly have not talked to anyone before who espouses a white separatist viewpoint like some on this list do.

One of the reasons we chose to live where we live was because of the racial diversity.
And the area I live in has only become much more racially and ethnically diverse.

In addition to my son's first friend who was black, one of my daughter's pre-school pals was Muslim with a white dad
and a mom from Singapore (she was really interesting). Currently, each of my kids have a varied group of friends,
with daughter being close to a girl with Pakistani heritage, and my son with a boy whose family comes from India, and is
Hindu.

In my job, I see children and people from all over the world.
Everyone I work with treats them all with respect. If anyone is hating any of these children, they are certainly keeping it to themselves.

Also, Tom, what are you saying that Neitsche, Marx, Hegel and Engel believed? The Golden Rule? Or that we as a species will never follow the golden rule?

Many cultures have a version of the golden rule.. I had a poster once, it was decades old and it had all the
different versions printed on it. I put it on the refrigerator when my kids were little. Now there is an organization that
has done the same thing. It is just such a basic way of thinking that helps prevent problems from

And somehow, a crucial part of this discussion has been omitted, the part where JimmyJumshade spoke of racism as a natural defense mechanism created by nature, or something like that. It was his coment that I replied to.

Several passages in the New Testament quote Jesus of Nazareth espousing the golden rule, including the following:
Matthew 7:12
12Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Luke 6:31
31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
Luke 10:25-28
25And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 26He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? 27And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. 28And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
The passage in the book of Luke then continues with Jesus answering the question, "Who is my neighbor?", by telling the parable of the Good Samaritan, indicating that "your neighbour" means a total stranger, or someone that happens to be nearby. Jesus' teaching, however, goes beyond the negative formulation of not doing what one would not like done to themselves, to the positive formulation of actively doing good to another that, if the situations were reversed, one would desire that the other would do for them. This formulation, as indicated in the parable of the Good Samaritan, emphasises the needs for positive action that brings benefit to another, not simply restraining oneself from negative activities that hurt another. Taken as a rule of judgement, both formulations of the golden rule, the negative and positive, are equally applicable.[25]




From: gary beauregard <beau@gcbussu.com>
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 9:56:54 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Equality is a pipe dream. All you can really do is hold it as an ideal and strive for it but in reality it will never be.

Bear

--- On Sun, 12/6/09, Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 10:19 AM
Actually Nietsche, Hegel, Marx, and Engel believed that..

Tom

ARMY STRONG!! This We'll Defend.

From: Judy Hayner [mailto:edpals2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

So, you are saying that as a species we can never treat each other as we would like to be treated, with understanding, love
and respect?

I don't think this is what you mean, but it is coming off that way.

Why accept things as they are? Actually, new ideas are rarely accepted quickly. Of course the idea of racial equality
has been around for quite some time but it is clear not everyone has gotten the memo!

You are arguing racism as natural, created by nature? Wow, tell that to my son, who made a first "best friend" in
kindergarten. They used to throw their arms around each other's shoulders, laugh, and have a great time together. My son
is white and the first friend was black. My son didn't seem to have any "natural" racism toward this boy. He simply
enjoyed his company.




From: Jimmy Jumshade <jimmybug@rocketmail.com>
To: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>; phayes9402@comcast.net; Judy Hayner <edpals2@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 11:09:36 AM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 8:43 AM
Claudette, Patty seems to have focused an unimportant aspect of your note, which made an excellent point about
the fear behind the rationalization of racism.

And while I'm sure she didn't intend this, her comment enabled Predator then to put down the French ...

Another on this list has decried blocking the racist component on this list as censorship and against
freedom of speech.

If I have learned one thing by being on this list, it is that arguing with people only polarizes their positions. It does not change anyone's mind.

I suspect those who deny the majority of people on earth their humanity will only be cheered if they upset us.

I do not feel it is my duty to provide them with a forum for their fear and hatreds.

I agree with you there is no point in attempting discussion with them, and I take them off the list every time I send an
e-mail.

If the rest of you wish to argue with them and give their positions credibility, that is your right.




From: Claudette Konola <Konola@Bresnan.net>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:25:02 AM
Subject: RE: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
Patty, what did I ever do to you to make you hate me so much? You seem to have this need to challenge everything I write. This one is just silly.

Claudette is a French name. http://www.behindthename.com/name/claudette

CLAUDETTE
Gender: Feminine
Usage: French
Pronounced: klo-DET [key]
French feminine form of CLAUDIUS

Konola is a very common Finnish Name. In fact if you google "Konola" you will find that most of the information that comes up is about a Finnish racing team, a well known Finnish artist, and an Nokia executive-in Finland.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBR_enUS274US274&q=Konola


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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

I'm curious as to how someone could tell that Claudette Konola is of French and Finnish descent. Maybe I'm just missing something but it doesn't appear that obvious to me.

Patty
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John Hansen, you are a complete waste of human protoplasm. I will never again respond to you, and your E-mails are going into my junk mail box where they are automatically deleted so long as you continue to send them. You are trying to look rational, but to me you are scared shitless that you may have to share power with people of color. By the way, you should be able to see from my name that my ethnic background is French and Finnish. I am a white woman who hopes there are no other white women willing to breed with the likes of you.

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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

So - you have great hostility toward White People - right?

Nobody else ever does bad - it's just white people

You probably applaude when black power raises it's ugly fist as they did in washington state lately and killed some police officers - and when laraza trys to take over America and even they murder black people in the LA area (have you heard?)

Did you hear about the blacks that broke into a wichita home and after forcing the white women to do all kinds of things for them and to each other - almost all of the white people there were killed. Of course that's okay too - right?

I used to know a guy named grant bruer - he said and correctly that blacks are a very basic people and are wired for the congo. He said they couldn't change that if htey wanted to and I believe he was right. Living in a refined decent society is beyond them.

John Hansen

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I read you whenever I see you.

I fully agree - it is spooky.

I've often thought that the reason we have so many troops overseas is that if they're not here, they can't remove congress or others.

Like the military in russia - when Boris Yeltsin took over - had he not, I think a civil war would have erupted.

In america if everything collapses, people won't have the mean to do anything. Most of us don't now. We have ideas on how we got here and certainly presidents and congress are to blame but just going in and removing any of those won't in itself help much.

I wonder what the long road back will be or if there will be any road back.

John Hansen
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Whatever other differences we may have, John, I'm with you on this being "worrisome", to put it mildly. Downright spooky is more like it. I've heard variations on this theme from other sources, by the way, with differing versions of the expected time line and who's behind it or to blame. I'll pass this on to some other people for their information and feedback.

You may have seen comments I've made over the past year about the economy having died in the fall of '08, and ever since, our so-called news media have been reporting the worms crawling in and out as signs of life in the corpse. I've been wondering how long the illusion of "recovery" can possibly be held together. Truth be told it's already been longer than I expected-- and I keep hoping it'll last a while longer so I can get more prepared. . . You get some lovely sunny weather when a hurricane's on the way-- but that's because all the clouds have been sucked into the storm.

Regards,
Al J



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Sent: Wed, Dec 9, 2009 6:25 pm
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


These events should be worrisome for every Patriotic American John Hansen
=======================================

Members of all branches of the United States Military will soon be facing a most critical decision. The European Union Times is reporting here that Obama is using the deployment of additional troops to Afghanistan to cover for the movement of some 200,000 troops, presently on duty in countries other than Iraq and Afghanistan, to USNORTHCOM to prepare for the "expected outbreak of Civil War within the United States before the end of winter.."

It would appear those who call themselves "public servants" believe the people they supposedly serve have become dissatisfied with their job performance and will resort to some form of civil disobedience, which will necessitate military intervention. According to the article, Obama believes the reason for this civil unrest to be an expected "implosion" of this country's financial systems. Should these events occur, members of the military would be forced to decide whether they would support their government, which gave hundreds of billions to government cronies in the financial sector, or their country.

A prudent man would speculate if the government so fears coming civil unrest, will they move to seize firearms throughout the country and use these military forces along with law enforcement to do so? I believe the answer can be found in the events surrounding the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. Government forces there not only seized firearms from private citizens but also relocated many citizens against their will.

Millions of Americans have prayed for the safety of the military as they fight the government's wars all over the planet. Many believe the military to be defending the country from enemies that would take our weapons and our freedoms. What will their actions be when the US military becomes that enemy? Will the military willingly participate in such acts? Such are questions the future holds.

The government has spent decades defining those who oppose its unlawful exploits as enemies of the state. Those who can or will not differentiate between the government and the country have fallen hook, line and sinker for this demonization of those who demand the government operate within the constraints of the Constitution and moral law. Most of those who blindly support the illegal actions of the government have been bought and paid for with the taxes of those who actually produce something. Unfortunately, primary among those bought-and-paid-for entities are law enforcement and the military.

Both political parties have conducted this demonization of true Patriots. While the democrats have been traditionally anti-gun and liberty, the republicans bought into the program with the fascist Patriot Act and the illegal, unconstitutional War on Terror. The two dominant political parties in this country are two wings of the same vulture: blatant in-your-face socialism. There are no answers to our problems to be found in either political party.

Many on the right have bought into the ideas expressed by leaders of the military that all who oppose the state and its illegal agenda should be treated no differently than the "insurgents" the military has been facing in Iraq and Afghanistan. Nowhere is that better illustrated than here where a law enforcement publication is advocating military tactics promoted by General David Petraeus be used against those whom the state defines as its enemies. While the article in Guns and Weapons for Law Enforcement speaks specifically of gangs and drug activity, don't forget the Department of Homeland Security has defined millions of patriotic Americans and veterans as possible domestic terrorists in its report sent to LE agencies on April 7th of 2009. If you wonder if you fit the definition of possible domestic terrorist, you should check here.

If the European Union Times report is correct and Obama is moving to strengthen USNORTHCOM with anywhere near the numbers mentioned, indicates the fedgov fears its own citizens much more than it fears al Qaeda. Either the government is anticipating a total financial breakdown, there are plans to confiscate firearms, a new false flag event is in the works, or any combination of the three. Either way, they plan on this event occurring before spring of 2010.

On the minds of many Americans and politicians is exactly how will the military and law enforcement react if told to confiscate firearms or move American citizens to FEMA camps.

Consideration must be given to the militarization of law enforcement entities in this country over the past few decades and our gradual decline into a police state, thanks to the bogus War on Terror. That being said, some police blogs such as this one indicate not all law enforcement personnel are on board with these illegal and corrupt practices. When considering possible actions of military personnel one must be aware of the felons and gang members who became part of the military when recruiters were falling short of their goals. Nothing could be better for a felon or a gang-banger than to actually be ordered to commit crimes with impunity. At some point in time, any true American serving in the military will be forced to ask themselves exactly what and whom they are defending and exactly what became of the "home of the free?"

What will be the reaction of the soldier from Colorado who is confiscating guns and placing so-called domestic terrorists in detention camps in Ohio when he gets word other soldiers are doing the same to his family and friends back home? Who will soldiers and law enforcement officers side with when push comes to shove: the government who has given over a trillion dollars to their cronies in the financial industry, failed to provide their brother/sister veterans competent medical care, denied disability benefits, denied compensation for treatment as prisoners of war, placed single parents in confinement and taken their children, or their family and friends who have lost their jobs and are seeing their homes and farms foreclosed by the same bankers who received huge bonuses from the bailout money? If military and law enforcement personnel begin to side with the citizens, will the fedgov call in United Nations forces to subdue those who cherish personal freedom and will fight to retain it?

Regardless of which series of events occur, Americans will be the losers. Brace yourselves and prepare, this is going to get real ugly.

December 7, 2009

Michael Gaddy [send him mail], an Army veteran of Vietnam, Grenada, and Beirut, lives in the Four Corners area of the American Southwest.

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Countries, like ships, can reverse course, if they are going in the wrong direction but you need someone at the helm, who understands the problem and is not afraid to do what is absolutely necessary. Unfortunately, we have nobody in the Congress or the White House that fits that description. There was a gentleman on Glen Beck that made the remark, "Congress, the American people are coming and they are coming for you." That day cannot come soon enough. I hope they bring plenty of rope.

Bear


--- On Thu, 12/10/09, John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


From: John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net>

Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?

To: jk@israeliteidentity.com, edpals2@yahoo.com, joet40@charter.net, nora22000@sbcglobal.net, onepocketplayer@gmail.com, algae5636@aol.com

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Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 9:50 AM
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I read you whenever I see you.

I fully agree - it is spooky.

I've often thought that the reason we have so many troops overseas is that if they're not here, they can't remove congress or others.

Like the military in russia - when Boris Yeltsin took over - had he not, I think a civil war would have erupted.

In america if everything collapses, people won't have the mean to do anything. Most of us don't now. We have ideas on how we got here and certainly presidents and congress are to blame but just going in and removing any of those won't in itself help much.

I wonder what the long road back will be or if there will be any road back.

John Hansen
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Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


Whatever other differences we may have, John, I'm with you on this being "worrisome", to put it mildly. Downright spooky is more like it. I've heard variations on this theme from other sources, by the way, with differing versions of the expected time line and who's behind it or to blame. I'll pass this on to some other people for their information and feedback.

You may have seen comments I've made over the past year about the economy having died in the fall of '08, and ever since, our so-called news media have been reporting the worms crawling in and out as signs of life in the corpse. I've been wondering how long the illusion of "recovery" can possibly be held together. Truth be told it's already been longer than I expected-- and I keep hoping it'll last a while longer so I can get more prepared. . . You get some lovely sunny weather when a hurricane's on the way-- but that's because all the clouds have been sucked into the storm.

Regards,
Al J



-----Original Message-----
From: John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Wed, Dec 9, 2009 6:25 pm
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


These events should be worrisome for every Patriotic American John Hansen
=======================================

Members of all branches of the United States Military will soon be facing a most critical decision. The European Union Times is reporting here that Obama is using the deployment of additional troops to Afghanistan to cover for the movement of some 200,000 troops, presently on duty in countries other than Iraq and Afghanistan, to USNORTHCOM to prepare for the "expected outbreak of Civil War within the United States before the end of winter.."

It would appear those who call themselves "public servants" believe the people they supposedly serve have become dissatisfied with their job performance and will resort to some form of civil disobedience, which will necessitate military intervention. According to the article, Obama believes the reason for this civil unrest to be an expected "implosion" of this country's financial systems. Should these events occur, members of the military would be forced to decide whether they would support their government, which gave hundreds of billions to government cronies in the financial sector, or their country.

A prudent man would speculate if the government so fears coming civil unrest, will they move to seize firearms throughout the country and use these military forces along with law enforcement to do so? I believe the answer can be found in the events surrounding the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. Government forces there not only seized firearms from private citizens but also relocated many citizens against their will.

Millions of Americans have prayed for the safety of the military as they fight the government's wars all over the planet. Many believe the military to be defending the country from enemies that would take our weapons and our freedoms. What will their actions be when the US military becomes that enemy? Will the military willingly participate in such acts? Such are questions the future holds.

The government has spent decades defining those who oppose its unlawful exploits as enemies of the state. Those who can or will not differentiate between the government and the country have fallen hook, line and sinker for this demonization of those who demand the government operate within the constraints of the Constitution and moral law. Most of those who blindly support the illegal actions of the government have been bought and paid for with the taxes of those who actually produce something. Unfortunately, primary among those bought-and-paid-for entities are law enforcement and the military.

Both political parties have conducted this demonization of true Patriots. While the democrats have been traditionally anti-gun and liberty, the republicans bought into the program with the fascist Patriot Act and the illegal, unconstitutional War on Terror. The two dominant political parties in this country are two wings of the same vulture: blatant in-your-face socialism. There are no answers to our problems to be found in either political party.

Many on the right have bought into the ideas expressed by leaders of the military that all who oppose the state and its illegal agenda should be treated no differently than the "insurgents" the military has been facing in Iraq and Afghanistan. Nowhere is that better illustrated than here where a law enforcement publication is advocating military tactics promoted by General David Petraeus be used against those whom the state defines as its enemies. While the article in Guns and Weapons for Law Enforcement speaks specifically of gangs and drug activity, don't forget the Department of Homeland Security has defined millions of patriotic Americans and veterans as possible domestic terrorists in its report sent to LE agencies on April 7th of 2009. If you wonder if you fit the definition of possible domestic terrorist, you should check here.

If the European Union Times report is correct and Obama is moving to strengthen USNORTHCOM with anywhere near the numbers mentioned, indicates the fedgov fears its own citizens much more than it fears al Qaeda. Either the government is anticipating a total financial breakdown, there are plans to confiscate firearms, a new false flag event is in the works, or any combination of the three. Either way, they plan on this event occurring before spring of 2010.

On the minds of many Americans and politicians is exactly how will the military and law enforcement react if told to confiscate firearms or move American citizens to FEMA camps.

Consideration must be given to the militarization of law enforcement entities in this country over the past few decades and our gradual decline into a police state, thanks to the bogus War on Terror. That being said, some police blogs such as this one indicate not all law enforcement personnel are on board with these illegal and corrupt practices. When considering possible actions of military personnel one must be aware of the felons and gang members who became part of the military when recruiters were falling short of their goals. Nothing could be better for a felon or a gang-banger than to actually be ordered to commit crimes with impunity. At some point in time, any true American serving in the military will be forced to ask themselves exactly what and whom they are defending and exactly what became of the "home of the free?"

What will be the reaction of the soldier from Colorado who is confiscating guns and placing so-called domestic terrorists in detention camps in Ohio when he gets word other soldiers are doing the same to his family and friends back home? Who will soldiers and law enforcement officers side with when push comes to shove: the government who has given over a trillion dollars to their cronies in the financial industry, failed to provide their brother/sister veterans competent medical care, denied disability benefits, denied compensation for treatment as prisoners of war, placed single parents in confinement and taken their children, or their family and friends who have lost their jobs and are seeing their homes and farms foreclosed by the same bankers who received huge bonuses from the bailout money? If military and law enforcement personnel begin to side with the citizens, will the fedgov call in United Nations forces to subdue those who cherish personal freedom and will fight to retain it?

Regardless of which series of events occur, Americans will be the losers. Brace yourselves and prepare, this is going to get real ugly.

December 7, 2009

Michael Gaddy [send him mail], an Army veteran of Vietnam, Grenada, and Beirut, lives in the Four Corners area of the American Southwest.

Mirror Site: JPFO.net
All Rights Reserved 2009 JPFO
P.O. Box 270143 | Hartford, WI 53027
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Algae, there may be a latent conservative hiding inside you somewhere, let him out!

Mac.


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On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 7:58 PM, <algae5636@aol.com> wrote:

Whatever other differences we may have, John, I'm with you on this being "worrisome", to put it mildly. Downright spooky is more like it. I've heard variations on this theme from other sources, by the way, with differing versions of the expected time line and who's behind it or to blame. I'll pass this on to some other people for their information and feedback.

You may have seen comments I've made over the past year about the economy having died in the fall of '08, and ever since, our so-called news media have been reporting the worms crawling in and out as signs of life in the corpse. I've been wondering how long the illusion of "recovery" can possibly be held together. Truth be told it's already been longer than I expected-- and I keep hoping it'll last a while longer so I can get more prepared. . . You get some lovely sunny weather when a hurricane's on the way-- but that's because all the clouds have been sucked into the storm.

Regards,
Al J



-----Original Message-----
From: John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Wed, Dec 9, 2009 6:25 pm
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


These events should be worrisome for every Patriotic American John Hansen
=======================================

Members of all branches of the United States Military will soon be facing a most critical decision. The European Union Times is reporting here that Obama is using the deployment of additional troops to Afghanistan to cover for the movement of some 200,000 troops, presently on duty in countries other than Iraq and Afghanistan, to USNORTHCOM to prepare for the "expected outbreak of Civil War within the United States before the end of winter."

It would appear those who call themselves "public servants" believe the people they supposedly serve have become dissatisfied with their job performance and will resort to some form of civil disobedience, which will necessitate military intervention. According to the article, Obama believes the reason for this civil unrest to be an expected "implosion" of this country's financial systems. Should these events occur, members of the military would be forced to decide whether they would support their government, which gave hundreds of billions to government cronies in the financial sector, or their country.

A prudent man would speculate if the government so fears coming civil unrest, will they move to seize firearms throughout the country and use these military forces along with law enforcement to do so? I believe the answer can be found in the events surrounding the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. Government forces there not only seized firearms from private citizens but also relocated many citizens against their will.

Millions of Americans have prayed for the safety of the military as they fight the government's wars all over the planet. Many believe the military to be defending the country from enemies that would take our weapons and our freedoms. What will their actions be when the US military becomes that enemy? Will the military willingly participate in such acts? Such are questions the future holds.

The government has spent decades defining those who oppose its unlawful exploits as enemies of the state. Those who can or will not differentiate between the government and the country have fallen hook, line and sinker for this demonization of those who demand the government operate within the constraints of the Constitution and moral law. Most of those who blindly support the illegal actions of the government have been bought and paid for with the taxes of those who actually produce something. Unfortunately, primary among those bought-and-paid-for entities are law enforcement and the military.

Both political parties have conducted this demonization of true Patriots. While the democrats have been traditionally anti-gun and liberty, the republicans bought into the program with the fascist Patriot Act and the illegal, unconstitutional War on Terror. The two dominant political parties in this country are two wings of the same vulture: blatant in-your-face socialism. There are no answers to our problems to be found in either political party.

Many on the right have bought into the ideas expressed by leaders of the military that all who oppose the state and its illegal agenda should be treated no differently than the "insurgents" the military has been facing in Iraq and Afghanistan. Nowhere is that better illustrated than here where a law enforcement publication is advocating military tactics promoted by General David Petraeus be used against those whom the state defines as its enemies. While the article in Guns and Weapons for Law Enforcement speaks specifically of gangs and drug activity, don't forget the Department of Homeland Security has defined millions of patriotic Americans and veterans as possible domestic terrorists in its report sent to LE agencies on April 7th of 2009. If you wonder if you fit the definition of possible domestic terrorist, you should check here.

If the European Union Times report is correct and Obama is moving to strengthen USNORTHCOM with anywhere near the numbers mentioned, indicates the fedgov fears its own citizens much more than it fears al Qaeda. Either the government is anticipating a total financial breakdown, there are plans to confiscate firearms, a new false flag event is in the works, or any combination of the three. Either way, they plan on this event occurring before spring of 2010.

On the minds of many Americans and politicians is exactly how will the military and law enforcement react if told to confiscate firearms or move American citizens to FEMA camps.

Consideration must be given to the militarization of law enforcement entities in this country over the past few decades and our gradual decline into a police state, thanks to the bogus War on Terror. That being said, some police blogs such as this one indicate not all law enforcement personnel are on board with these illegal and corrupt practices. When considering possible actions of military personnel one must be aware of the felons and gang members who became part of the military when recruiters were falling short of their goals. Nothing could be better for a felon or a gang-banger than to actually be ordered to commit crimes with impunity. At some point in time, any true American serving in the military will be forced to ask themselves exactly what and whom they are defending and exactly what became of the "home of the free?"

What will be the reaction of the soldier from Colorado who is confiscating guns and placing so-called domestic terrorists in detention camps in Ohio when he gets word other soldiers are doing the same to his family and friends back home? Who will soldiers and law enforcement officers side with when push comes to shove: the government who has given over a trillion dollars to their cronies in the financial industry, failed to provide their brother/sister veterans competent medical care, denied disability benefits, denied compensation for treatment as prisoners of war, placed single parents in confinement and taken their children, or their family and friends who have lost their jobs and are seeing their homes and farms foreclosed by the same bankers who received huge bonuses from the bailout money? If military and law enforcement personnel begin to side with the citizens, will the fedgov call in United Nations forces to subdue those who cherish personal freedom and will fight to retain it?

Regardless of which series of events occur, Americans will be the losers. Brace yourselves and prepare, this is going to get real ugly.

December 7, 2009

Michael Gaddy [send him mail], an Army veteran of Vietnam, Grenada, and Beirut, lives in the Four Corners area of the American Southwest.

Mirror Site: JPFO.net
All Rights Reserved 2009 JPFO
P.O. Box 270143 | Hartford, WI 53027
Phone (262) 673-9745 | Fax (262) 673-9746 | jpfo@jpfo.org








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Yeah, every member of CONgress and every crooked judge and attorney along with their families should be swinging from light standards across the country.

I believe that we have enough rope for them AND any lousy liberal who dares to oppose a nice House Cleaning like that!

Mac.


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On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 7:01 AM, gary beauregard <beau@gcbussu.com> wrote:

Countries, like ships, can reverse course, if they are going in the wrong direction but you need someone at the helm, who understands the problem and is not afraid to do what is absolutely necessary. Unfortunately, we have nobody in the Congress or the White House that fits that description. There was a gentleman on Glen Beck that made the remark, "Congress, the American people are coming and they are coming for you." That day cannot come soon enough. I hope they bring plenty of rope.

Bear

--- On Thu, 12/10/09, John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


From: John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?
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Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 9:50 AM


I read you whenever I see you.

I fully agree - it is spooky.

I've often thought that the reason we have so many troops overseas is that if they're not here, they can't remove congress or others.

Like the military in russia - when Boris Yeltsin took over - had he not, I think a civil war would have erupted.

In america if everything collapses, people won't have the mean to do anything. Most of us don't now. We have ideas on how we got here and certainly presidents and congress are to blame but just going in and removing any of those won't in itself help much.

I wonder what the long road back will be or if there will be any road back.

John Hansen
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Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


Whatever other differences we may have, John, I'm with you on this being "worrisome", to put it mildly. Downright spooky is more like it. I've heard variations on this theme from other sources, by the way, with differing versions of the expected time line and who's behind it or to blame. I'll pass this on to some other people for their information and feedback.

You may have seen comments I've made over the past year about the economy having died in the fall of '08, and ever since, our so-called news media have been reporting the worms crawling in and out as signs of life in the corpse. I've been wondering how long the illusion of "recovery" can possibly be held together. Truth be told it's already been longer than I expected-- and I keep hoping it'll last a while longer so I can get more prepared. . . You get some lovely sunny weather when a hurricane's on the way-- but that's because all the clouds have been sucked into the storm.

Regards,
Al J



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From: John Hansen <majorhart@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Wed, Dec 9, 2009 6:25 pm
Subject: Re: "Be fruitful and multiply." We did that. Now what?


These events should be worrisome for every Patriotic American John Hansen
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Members of all branches of the United States Military will soon be facing a most critical decision. The European Union Times is reporting here that Obama is using the deployment of additional troops to Afghanistan to cover for the movement of some 200,000 troops, presently on duty in countries other than Iraq and Afghanistan, to USNORTHCOM to prepare for the "expected outbreak of Civil War within the United States before the end of winter.."

It would appear those who call themselves "public servants" believe the people they supposedly serve have become dissatisfied with their job performance and will resort to some form of civil disobedience, which will necessitate military intervention. According to the article, Obama believes the reason for this civil unrest to be an expected "implosion" of this country's financial systems. Should these events occur, members of the military would be forced to decide whether they would support their government, which gave hundreds of billions to government cronies in the financial sector, or their country.

A prudent man would speculate if the government so fears coming civil unrest, will they move to seize firearms throughout the country and use these military forces along with law enforcement to do so? I believe the answer can be found in the events surrounding the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. Government forces there not only seized firearms from private citizens but also relocated many citizens against their will.

Millions of Americans have prayed for the safety of the military as they fight the government's wars all over the planet. Many believe the military to be defending the country from enemies that would take our weapons and our freedoms. What will their actions be when the US military becomes that enemy? Will the military willingly participate in such acts? Such are questions the future holds.

The government has spent decades defining those who oppose its unlawful exploits as enemies of the state. Those who can or will not differentiate between the government and the country have fallen hook, line and sinker for this demonization of those who demand the government operate within the constraints of the Constitution and moral law. Most of those who blindly support the illegal actions of the government have been bought and paid for with the taxes of those who actually produce something. Unfortunately, primary among those bought-and-paid-for entities are law enforcement and the military.

Both political parties have conducted this demonization of true Patriots. While the democrats have been traditionally anti-gun and liberty, the republicans bought into the program with the fascist Patriot Act and the illegal, unconstitutional War on Terror. The two dominant political parties in this country are two wings of the same vulture: blatant in-your-face socialism. There are no answers to our problems to be found in either political party.

Many on the right have bought into the ideas expressed by leaders of the military that all who oppose the state and its illegal agenda should be treated no differently than the "insurgents" the military has been facing in Iraq and Afghanistan. Nowhere is that better illustrated than here where a law enforcement publication is advocating military tactics promoted by General David Petraeus be used against those whom the state defines as its enemies. While the article in Guns and Weapons for Law Enforcement speaks specifically of gangs and drug activity, don't forget the Department of Homeland Security has defined millions of patriotic Americans and veterans as possible domestic terrorists in its report sent to LE agencies on April 7th of 2009. If you wonder if you fit the definition of possible domestic terrorist, you should check here.

If the European Union Times report is correct and Obama is moving to strengthen USNORTHCOM with anywhere near the numbers mentioned, indicates the fedgov fears its own citizens much more than it fears al Qaeda. Either the government is anticipating a total financial breakdown, there are plans to confiscate firearms, a new false flag event is in the works, or any combination of the three. Either way, they plan on this event occurring before spring of 2010.

On the minds of many Americans and politicians is exactly how will the military and law enforcement react if told to confiscate firearms or move American citizens to FEMA camps.

Consideration must be given to the militarization of law enforcement entities in this country over the past few decades and our gradual decline into a police state, thanks to the bogus War on Terror. That being said, some police blogs such as this one indicate not all law enforcement personnel are on board with these illegal and corrupt practices. When considering possible actions of military personnel one must be aware of the felons and gang members who became part of the military when recruiters were falling short of their goals. Nothing could be better for a felon or a gang-banger than to actually be ordered to commit crimes with impunity. At some point in time, any true American serving in the military will be forced to ask themselves exactly what and whom they are defending and exactly what became of the "home of the free?"

What will be the reaction of the soldier from Colorado who is confiscating guns and placing so-called domestic terrorists in detention camps in Ohio when he gets word other soldiers are doing the same to his family and friends back home? Who will soldiers and law enforcement officers side with when push comes to shove: the government who has given over a trillion dollars to their cronies in the financial industry, failed to provide their brother/sister veterans competent medical care, denied disability benefits, denied compensation for treatment as prisoners of war, placed single parents in confinement and taken their children, or their family and friends who have lost their jobs and are seeing their homes and farms foreclosed by the same bankers who received huge bonuses from the bailout money? If military and law enforcement personnel begin to side with the citizens, will the fedgov call in United Nations forces to subdue those who cherish personal freedom and will fight to retain it?

Regardless of which series of events occur, Americans will be the losers. Brace yourselves and prepare, this is going to get real ugly.

December 7, 2009

Michael Gaddy [send him mail], an Army veteran of Vietnam, Grenada, and Beirut, lives in the Four Corners area of the American Southwest.

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Roflmao!
(Oops-- 'scuse me while I go put it back on. . . :-)
Mac--
I liberated my conservative a long time ago.
And yup-- (Can your hear it coming?)
That's why you think I'm a liberal.
:-)
Rofl some more,
Al J