From: Tom Smith
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AUM] Bob Hope - Fag lover
The family of one of Hope's long time comedy writers became my adopted family when I moved out West 20 years ago. They had nothing but good things to say about him, as apparently did everyone else.
Faggots aren't the problem, but their misuse of political power is. I have a feminine personality and always seemed to attract them as friends. But back when I was young, they were all in the closet and I didn't even know they were gay until we got older. If it wasn't for the "girls" when I was in jail, we all would have gone batty in there. Not because of the sex, but because they furnished that feminine dynamic to the joint. The suckers were also a hoot.
Could we please lighten up on the faggots and jews on this list? We have much bigger fish to fry...the bitches!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "advocate" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 6:13 AM
Subject: Re: [MensMovement] To Earl (advocate) and John Knight (Christian Party)
> thank you
From: "Tom Smith" <QIM@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 2:14 AM
Subject: Re: [AUM] Re: Tom, this is insane!
From: Giant Attitude
--- Christian Party <email@example.com> wrote:
> <First paragraph edited by moderator>
Must have been a doozy.
I don't remember the moderator ever before exercising
his prerogative to edit.
Yep, that's my very first edit.
Knight is one smart bigot and anti-semite. If he was dumb, I wouldn't have bothered to edit him, I would have chucked him in a second.
The sucker is too smart to have come out of the red neck crowd. I think he's working for the Jews <smile>
From: Giant Attitude
--- Phillip Parker <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
You Jews are such pussies. Listen, this stupid crap of Knights even the rednecks aren't buying anymore. One has to ask themselves who is benefitting from this anachronistic horseshit. It's the civil rights groups, of which the feminists mostly benefit.
Knight is working for the feminists. They love publicizing his shit and using it against us. It also serves to keep us at eachother's throats and the heat off the feminists. Knight eats up the attention and probably gets laid in payment.
Hey GA, onto more important matters. My daughter has a legal problem and I know how much you like helping women for free, being so chivalrous and all.
If you help me with this problem, I'll finally pay you for the ball game tickets. Just kidding, I'll pay anyway and had just forgotten. Send your home address.
Someone ran into my daughters car and it was clearly their fault, so they said they owned a repair shop, or knew someone who did, and would repair her car without going through the insurance company. I wasn't there so she went ahead and agreed. She took the car in to them and they gave her a loaner. They fixed the car OK, but she had an accident that was her fault in the loaner. She gave her insurance info to the victims and will be marked her whole early life for it and pay big time in insurance, or should I say that I will pay big time.
Do you see any holes in this scenario that could save mine or her pocketbooks?
Thanks in advance. You're not a pussy GA, I was just funning. I'm just sick and tired of this identity group horseshit and the hysteria about racism and anti-semitism that serves it. It's anti-male too. How many Knights are there out there and what kind of reception do they usually get? They don't get far because all us men have no power anyway to make it go anywhere even if we were interested, which we aren't.
Your misogynist stuff is totally different. It has an important function in the rhetorical battle, plus there's a good deal of truth to it. Knight's stuff is part of the "divide and conquer" tactic that the feminists have used so successfully.
> Knight is working for the feminists.
Does it matter?
> They love
> publicizing his shit and using it against us.
The difference is that Knight is getting feminist press and your not. The feminists don't give guys like us press, they suppress guys like us and love giving guys like Knight all the attention.
I suppose, but I've been accused of providing feminists with the same
"Accused" and "press" are two very different things.
> also serves to keep us at eachother's throats and
> the heat off the feminists.
Divide and conquer. Yes.
> Knight eats up the
> attention and probably gets laid in payment.
How does he make a living? I know first-hand the price of being too
outspoken. Actually, that adds gist to your conspiracy theory about
him - he couldn't POSSIBLY be making a living unless someone was
paying him under the table.
GA, you've been on the Right too long and playing by the rules as the elite over on the Right screwed you. On the Left it's not truth that matters, but perception. We'll teach you how to be a good Leftist yet.
I had a major blowout with her today. She's going out of town and said I could use her car if I want. I drive a junk and she has a relatively new Rabbit. But then she said I couldn't smoke if I did. Then she went even farther after I agreed to that and said I couldn't even smell like smoke and get in her car. I hit the ceiling and started swearing at her and calling he a "damn feminist". I will never use her car or anything of hers FOREVER. That's off the table, now I'm going to work on the "damn feminist" stuff.
Now that I can't use my daughter's car, it isn't looking good for long trips. If I get a third job and save alittle, maybe I can get a decent car and get up there. I got some great freinds up there too that I want to see.
Standard auto policies usually contain a clause providing coverge for
the loaner and if the insurance company is going to cover her for the
accident that she had in the loaner, that's about as much as you can
I would have been concerned that they might REFUSE to provide
coverage for the accident that she had in the loaner on the grounds
of her failure to report the first accident.
If they are covering that second accident, you and she are probably
being treated correctly, and it makes sense that her rates are going
to be raised if the second accident was her fault. I don't know of
any legalese that can get around that.
I don't know how old your daughter is, but I don't think that the
accident that was her fault will mark her for her entire early life.
Back in early 1984, I was arrested after drinking and driving and I
ultimately plead guilty to a reckless driving charge. It was very
shameful at the time.
But hey, today even the President has a drinking and driving
conviction in his past (he was older in 1976 than I was in 1984
too). So does the Vice President, who I think might have TWO such
incidents in his past.
And the First Lady once killed a man in her automobile under
circumstances that I still find suspicious. And it's not as though I
would always assume the worst about a woman's conduct :)
Anyway, my point is that on the basis of my reckless driving plea, I
was downgraded to an "assigned risk" and had to pay boku bucks for
auto insurance to the state program. But this state of affairs
lasted for only 3 years.
After I went 3 years without any incidents, I was taken off "assigned
risk", and it didn't take long for me after that to be upgraded to
a "preferred" status.
So if policy and procedure hasn't changed since then, I'm guessing
that your daughter will be marked for about 3 years and no longer, as
long as she stays out of trouble for that time.
Thanks GA, I'll let her know. Send your address privately so that I can pay you back. I'm such a "slacker" <smile>
> Thanks in advance. You're not a pussy GA, I was
> just funning.
I know; I know.
> I'm just sick and tired of this
> identity group horseshit and the hysteria about
> racism and anti-semitism that serves it.
But you see, it's because I agree with you that I get upset with
As I said, I'm about as un-Jewish an Israelite as one can get, and I
share the same amount of disgust towards the liberal feminists that
are often so predominant in the Jewish community.
Even without feminism and civil rights, the country was well on it's way to homogenity in the Sixties. All of it was used for political reasons, not social justice. In fact we are in more trouble because of the inevitable backlash than we were in the Sixties. Plus none of the identity groups benefitted, they are in reality worse off.
In this sense, I AM worried about the demogogues like Knight, but it could be a whole new brand and it could come from our advocacies. We need to be vigilant. It's one of the reasons the men's movement has been suppressed. The elite knows the dangers.
In 1995, I got laid off by a female supervisor with about half my
ability and native intellect who had banged her way into that
position, and (to beat a dead horse), last year, I got the axe for
being naive enough to opine, in writing, that women were using male
homosexuality as a means of making war on normal male sexuality.
I'm living in a one-bedroom apartment in the Central Valley, pulling
down 39 thou a year with little if any benefits and trying to get out
from under a crushing amount of debt stemming from those two earlier
I'm 44 years old and straight, and I'll die alone and childless
because feminism has made all women seem hideous to me. Even if that
wasn't so, I can't AFFORD a real social life.
I'm not WHINING about these things; some of them are at least
partially self-inflicted; and the rest are just the cards that life
dealt to me.
I went through much the same stuff and more. If it happenned to anyother group besides white males, the whinning and victimhood would be deafenning.
But I'm just saying that being one of the "chosen people" doesn't get
me anywhere. If there are Jewish overlords secretly running the
world, they're not doing anything for ME. Why blame me for them?
As a group, the blacks and the hispanics are "worse" than the Jews as
far as identity group politics goes. Feminism is antithetical to the
interests of those communities but seems to be effective in using
identity group politics to form alliances with them.
Maybe, the WORST example of pussy conservatism was that demonstrated
by George the Elder after those Clarence Thomas hearings in 1991.
Jesus Christ, three days of emotion-drenched hearings in order to
determine whether he used naughty language - LANGUAGE - to a female
This was done to appease the histrionics of female voters and to
further the war against male sexuality.
No one can tell me, after that, that women have anything akin to a
male sex drive if a man needs to have a virtual rope put around his
neck in order to pay for allegations of having used naughty LANGUAGE.
This was a seminal incident in my realization that I wasn't just an
anti-feminist, but a misogynist, as well.
And George the Elder and the Republicans could have used this
incident as a means to win black votes by driving a wedge between the
blacks and the feminists ("look at what they did to him"), but, of
course, like the pussies they are, they ran away from the whole thing
and got sandbagged in 1992 by both the blacks AND by The Year of the
I hear you. Well said and a great analysis.
> anti-male too. How many Knights are there out there
> and what kind of reception do they usually get?
> They don't get far because all us men have no power
> anyway to make it go anywhere even if we were
> interested, which we aren't.
Race and ethnicity mean little in my equation.
They mean didley to over 90% of the males. It's only the feminists and demogogues who give a shit.
It's hapening anyway, even with draconian government intervention for thirty years to keep it from happenning. I bet without the government intervention, there would have been more integration, and also a much larger black community if not for abortion. Might it be that it was what some people wanted and knew would result? The abortion advocacy in particular.
Intermarriage makes that a stickier proposition, but still...
Being a poor man and wanting to marry down, the most logical group in this society should have been black women. I didn't have any problem with race, it was the matriarchal nature of black women tht turned me off. So essentially the lower class wasn't even available to the likes of me, so I had to go "crazy" if I wanted kids.
Men and women were designed to live with each other and to complement
Oh yeah, this social war has been the worse in history. We'll be long gone before it is appreciated as such.
From: Stephen Morgan
> I had a major blowout with her today.
> She's going out of town and
> said I could use her car if I want. I drive a junk and she has a
> relatively new Rabbit. But then she said I couldn't smoke if I did.
God hates cigarettes. Waste of money, too.
You're tellin me? Remember "Meathead" in "All in the Family"? The sucker is on a crusade and is so dumb that he thinks he's helping people when in fact he's only helping the feminists...and we know what they do. Well, cigarrettes in California now cost 5.35 and today it was reported to be going up in quarter increments frequently. It's the budget crisis in California in which the demos were completly caving in for no increases in taxes and now got pressure and have only the poor to wring the new taxes from. Up also goes the fees, sales taxes and everyother and everyother non progressive slave tax. We'll still have plenty of women's shelters you bet.
You on the out side of a very personal context that has linear limitations, if you catch my drift. I hardly see or talk to her anymore. She's active and has a boyfriend...egods, doing OK apparently, but is testing her wings. She's alittle self absorbed and maybe I should take my advice that I gave her tonite and think of the other's persons feelings.
The Bible says to be meek, not
Damn it, where are those money tables?
You sound like a shithead. The point I was trying to make is that I can't have an economic relationship as a dependent. It was kind of wierd when she even mentioned it and I didn't think much for about it except that it was nice to offer and yea I would like to drive to LA to visist my old freind who I haven't seen in years. I kind of knew it wasn't going to work out, and man she knew too and played it to the max as in, "Yeah dad, as well as not smoking in the car, I don't want you to smell like smoke in there either. She knew exactly how I'd resond to that. You know, my girlie tantrums, but wisely chosen. That's my girl. Thanks for having this discussion with me Steve, you old family healer.
Don't worry, I've been chomping at the bit to do that and she knows it. It's grappling time with old dad.
From: Stephen Morgan