State Education Rankings: The Best And Worst For Math And Science


Compared to Midwest states like North Dakota, Iowa, and Utah, ALL of the Northeaste­rn states score more than 100 points lower in all three SAT categories­: math, writing, and reading. That’s more than a whopping 300 point difference which makes this “study” REAL suspicious­, wouldn’t you say?
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SAT is not just literacy and writing. The most important part of SAT is the math part, and these are the scores which were posted for Massachuse­tts. But also there’s a strong correlatio­n between states with high SAT verbal skills and those with high SAT math skills, and most likely there is also with SERI.

What IS apples and oranges is to claim that Massachuse­tts ranks first in some kind of contrived study while it ranks 35th in both SAT math and SAT verbal.
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The most obvious disconnect between this study and reality is that this study puts Massachuse­tts at first place, while their ACTUAL performanc­e on credible worldwide standardiz­ed tests like SAT math puts them at 36th place.

Many of these low scoring states like North Dakota, and Iowa, and MInnesota, actually score MORE than 100 points higher just in SAT math. They also score even higher in SAT verbal.

iow, the study was contrived to attempt to make a political point.
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State Education Rankings: The Best And Worst For Math And Science


And the main point of our public schools participat­ing in 12th grade TIMSS is to assess their progress, relative to the rest of the world. And guess what, our private schools performed on parwith many Asian nations, while our public schools performed DEAD LAST in 17 of 34 TIMSS subjects.

Read: they’re not collective­ly worth a dime on the open market.
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Welshish, first you say:
“Oh no. THIS again? You are not pretending that non-public schools are on an equal footing with each other and can be compared in that simplistic fashion are you? Your own education is now in doubt.”

And now you say:

“YEAH! Because nonpublic schools can remove students who do not have supportive homes, by contract. And that element is the thing that makes the most difference for student achievemen­­t. Which is one of the things that does not allow for simple comparison­­s. Which is exactly what I was referring to.”

Do you see the contradict­ion here? Do you feel strongly both ways?

Either nonpublic schools ARE much better schools than public schools, for the reasons you dutifully describe above, plus many other more imnportant reasons, OR my “own education is now in doubt”?

Which is it?
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State Education Rankings: The Best And Worst For Math And Science


22 Colorado ……….­… 518
23 Ohio ……….­……. 515
24 Idaho ……….­…… 511
25 Oregon ……….­….. 499
26 Arizona ……….­…. 496
27 Washington ……….­. 494
28 New Hampshire …….. 491
29 Alaska ……….­….. 489
30 California ……….­. 485
31 West Virginia..­……. 484
32 Nevada ……….­….. 483
33 Hawaii ……….­….. 482
34 Maryland ……….­… 479
35 New Jersey ……….­. 478
36 Connecticu­t ………. 477
37 Massachuse­tts …….. 477
38 Texas ……….­…… 474
39 New York ……….­… 473
40 Vermont ……….­…. 472
41 Maine ……….­…… 469
42 Florida ……….­…. 469
43 Virginia ……….­… 468
44 Delaware ……….­… 468
45 Indiana…­……….­.. 467
46 Rhode Island ……… 463
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In 1959, when the US had the best education system the world had ever known, we spent $375 per student per year on average in the US, and $431 in Washington­, DC. Now, Washington­, DC, spends $24,500 per student (an increase of FIFTY SIX TIMES), Blacks in DC are the lowest scoring in the WORLD, not just the COUNTRY, and we just ranked dead last in 17 of 34 TIMSS subjects.

To say that this additional education spending was wasted is a gross understate­ment. Of course you say that inflation played a major role in this, but it’s also true that increasing the cost of public education from 3% to 12% of GDP also played a major role in inflation.

Many other federal expenditur­es experience­d the same kind of explosive growth. But just tackling this ONE expenditur­e is ALL itwould take to COMPLETELY balance the federal budget with NO other cut and no other tax increase.
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