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From: "Lisa" <[email protected]>

To: <[email protected]>

Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 5:04 PM

Subject: [Ex_husband_now_my_slave] New Member




A member told me about this group and said that it would benefit me.

A brief run-down of my situation is that I am remarried and my
stepdaughters (3 girls) are all victims of the court system and their
alcoholic, psychotic mother. We have spent over 25,000 in attorney
fee's and ended up representing ourselves for the last 4 years. (We
did better in the courtroom than the attorney's). They don't have a
relationship with us as thier mother is a professional PAS practicer.

I have two children from a previous marriage. Their father is a
pathetic excuse of a man who has a criminal record for kidnapping
them when they were 4 and 5. (they are 13 & 14 now). Despite his
actions, he is still given visitation and I have tried very hard to
foster a relationship between them all (despite my fears). Somehow,
he is managing to prove himself an ass all on his own and they are
getting tired of it. I think the days of making excuses for him are
over. They don't believe my excuses anymore...
"Why hasn't dad called in over a month?"
"Maybe he lost the number or he has not been feeling well. Why don't
YOU call him?" 
"no. I want to see how long he waits and what excuse he uses this

They are getting too old for him to lie to and he is blaming me for
making his relationship with them "strained".
He doesn't understand that I don't have to do anything. He does it
all on his own.

Anyway. There is so much more but I will save it for another time. I
am glad to be in the group and hope to get to know you all.

Lisa H


Lisa H.,


Thank you for your honesty, which really helps when sorting out the source of a divorce.


To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed, Titus 2:5



When you talk about a man with whom YOU chose to have children with as "a pathetic excuse of a man", not only do you blasphemy the word of God, but you highlight how poor YOUR decisions and choices have been.


"The husband is the head of the family. He may choose any reasonable place or mode of living, and the wife must conform thereto", California State Law


Wives, subject yourselves to your own husbands, as to the Lord, because a husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is Head of the assembly, and He is the Savior of the body. But even as the assembly is subject to Christ, so also the wives be to their own husbands in everything, Eph 5:22-24


When you claim that your husband has a "criminal record" for "kidnapping" his own children, you confirm for us that YOU, not even the state and the despicable lawyers, are the real criminal here.


When you say "He doesn't understand that I don't have to do anything. He does it all on his own", you prove yourself to be a LIAR, because the very first words out of your mouth on this forum proved for all to see [and remember http://fathersmanifesto.net/blasphemywordofgod.htm ] that it is YOU, and ONLY YOU, who constantly berate the POOR CHOICE that YOU, and ONLY YOU, made for your life, a costly mistake which society must pay dearly for, because it's obvious that you'll continue to blasphemy the word of God, continue to make the same mistakes over and over and over, and continue to deny a single wit of culpability.