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"Bob LeChevalier" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]... > "John Knight" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I see many translations all of which use the word "nation" or > >> "nations". It is YOU, the LIAR that thinks that those translations > >> are wrong and that they all should say "race". But YOU are indeed a > >> LIAR, speaking the words of the serpent, your master, who is the > >> Prince of Lies. > > > >The Greek word "ethnos" is translated as follows by Strong's: > > > >G1484 > >??????? > >ethnos > >eth'-nos > >Probably from G1486; a race (as of the same habit), that is, a tribe; > >specifically a foreign (non-Jewish) one (usually by implication pagan): - > >Gentile, heathen, nation, people. > > > >So it can be both a "nation" and a "people". > > We know precisely what the word ethnos means, nincompoop. It is used > directly as an English word, both as itself and in its derivations: > ethnologist and ethnic (group). An "ethnos" is an "ethnic group", > which means a group of people sharing a culture and heritage. "Ethnos" is a Greek word, not an English word. As this translation shows, it means "race".
> Heritage means history more than it does genetics - DNA testing has Who said anything about "heritage"? "Ethnos" is Greek for "race". > >But what is meant by "people"? RACE, of course. > > Tribe, as the definition explicitly stated. It equated "race" to "tribe", thus either English word would be appropriate.
> Injecting the term "skin color" is a straw man argument which you set up just so you could knock it down. Not even the definition of "race" that you provided mentions "skin color" as a criteria for "race", so why else would you do this other than to have the opportunity to argue with yourself?
> >The following is an example of its use as "nation":
Is your specialty today "straw man arguments"? Who suggested that Christ said this? You? Again, your argument is with yourself.
> >[46] But some of them went their ways to the Pharisees, and told them So you agree that "ethnos" also means "nation". What a breakthrough.
> And thus we see that the "he" in verse 52 is Caiaphas, and that he is Wow. Three straw man arguments in one post. Whoever said anything about this jew speaking for "White Christian Israelites"? Only you.
> >but this is obviously not the same as the following, where it means Notice that the word "nation" is translated from the Greek word "ethnos" which you already acknowledged above also means "race". To this very day, the physical characteristics of jews and Israelites are so different that it's impossible not to notice them, even after jews have spent billions of dollars on face lifts and nose bobs in a futile attempt to look normal. And you wonder why Pilate realized what a silly mistake he'd just made? > That is WHY he asks > "Art thou King of the Jews?" and not "Art thou King of the White > Christian Israelites?" (as if anyone in those days considered anyone > to be an "Israelite". Since the Holy Bible is all about Israelites, and since the term "Israelite" is used throughout the Holy Bible, and since Paul said "I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin", it would appear that your aversion to the word is the looming prospect that you must ultimately recognize Israelites as a RACE. Why else would you deny Holy Scripture like this?
> Christ wasn't killed by His "subjects". He was killed by the JEWS, who were His "subject's" arch enemies and had been for millennia.
> You can't even read your own definitions, which show that you've got this exactly backwards. First, it must be established that a "people" have a common ancestor. Only THEN can they be considered to be of the same "stock". Nothing is "presumed" here (other than your false statement, that is). Using the term "genos" and "ethnos" in the same sentence to refer to the same people is proof enough that the connotation of "ethnos" is "race" rather than "nation".
> >The reference to "peculiar [ethnos]" must mean "peculiar
race". Beep. Straw Man Argument Alert. Straw Man Argument Alert. This is your fourth one. Who's talking about "skin color". This "sense of ethnicity" you mention is just a futile attempt to avoid mentioning the big r-word: RACE.
> >Race Oh, MAN! All this time you've argued that jews are NOT a race, and now you're arguing that they ARE? Are you starting to feel strongly both ways again? Are you a closet "RACIST"? Have you been a "RACIST" all along, knowing that jews are a RACE, but not wanting the world to know? Yes, of course, jews are "meaning 2a", which means RACE. They are also "meaning 3c", which also means race, but we'll let you ponder this alarming admission first.
> Meaning 3c is the one usually intended for "race" when referring to My, your fifth straw man argument. Nobody but you is arguing "whites" "blacks", "skin color", etc. We're talking about the definition of race which YOU posted. "Ethnos" is the Greek word for "race", according to Strong's. It doesn't specify which subsection of "race" it refers to, does it? So where do you get this idea that "Meaning 3c ... has NOTHING to do with 'ethnos'"? Out of thin air, actually, because this is precisely what it does mean. "Ethnos" is a broad term which means a number of things, as already mentioned above.
John Knight
On September 13, 2002, "Bob LeChevalier" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]... > >> When foreigners adopted the ways of Israel NOT DEAD WRONG! Christ did not lie, He did not make mistakes, and He did not have to correct himself.
John Knight <[email protected]>
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"Bob LeChevalier" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > "Shadow Dancer" <[email protected]> wrote: > >I understood the number to be closer to 15 million...but that may have > >included gays, cripples, and the elderly, too. > > 6 million is the number of Jews alone. The nincompoop is in the right > ballpark for the total numbers killed by the Nazis in WWII. The total > killed in WWII in all theaters has estimated as high as 85 million, > with most estimates in the 50-60 million range. The Soviet Union lost > 20-40 million (on top of perhaps a similar number killed or starved by > Stalin in the decade before the war but not considered part of the > war). > > http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/statistics.htm > > gives one statistical breakdown of the deaths. > > http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm gives several estimates > broken down and with sources. It also compares with other mass > murders of the century and of history. > > lojbab
> Bob LeChevalier <[email protected]>
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"Bob LeChevalier" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]... > "John Knight" <[email protected]>
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So, here we are, back to you "feeling strongly both ways" again, eh, lojbab?
Once again, your argument is with yourself, not with White Christian Israelites.
Cary says: "they're by temperament far more comfortable with the Old Testament ambiance", and you, a "liberal", then "interpret" this to mean exactly the opposite:
Do you ever get embarassed when you make these 180 degree contradictory statements? Or do you just not know that you do this? Are you this STUPID, or this much pre-programmed?
Cary is accusing White Christian Israelites of sticking too close to the Old Testament, and you "interpret" this to mean that he's accusing Israelites of NOT "insisting on the Old Testament rules".
Do you even notice that your "difference of opinion" is with yourself?
> >Now comes Harvard educated Noel Ignatiev, an academic at Harvard's W.E.B.
Are you "feeling strongly both ways", again?
Do you feel strongly that he has "A sound idea", as well as feeling strongly that you "can't say that [you] support him"?
You just DID say that you support him by saying that he has a sound idea.
How can one mind become so confused?
Do you have any idea how?
It's called "jewish brainwashing". You can't even identify a "White Race" at the same time that you claim that it's "a sound idea" to abolish what you don't think exists, because the jews feed you, their good little Pavlov Doggie, an electronic biscuit whenever you repeat these intentionally conflicting, inflammatory, ridiculous, and confusing statements.
"Bob LeChevalier" <[email protected]>
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"Bob LeChevalier" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > "John Knight" <[email protected]> wrote: > >Just because a feminazi and a "liberal" agree with each other that school > >prayer was never banned doesn't mean that school prayer was never banned: > > > >1962: Engel v. Vitale. The Court ruled that public > >school officials could not require pupils to recite a slate- > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >composed prayer at the start of each school day, even if the > >prayer was nondenominational and pupils who so desired > >could be excused from reciting it, because such official > >state sanction of religious unerances was an unconsitu- > >tional attempt to establish religion. > > The underlined are the key words. > > >This was called "BANNING SCHOOL PRAYER". > > Then it was called that in error, because school prayer was not > banned. > > >It violated almost two centuries of "case law" to the contrary. > > Actually, it did not. Several state courts had previously banned > school prayer, some of them over a century earlier. > awwww, isn't this precious?: "school prayer was not banned" and "Several state courts had previously banned school prayer" And you wonder why so many Americans detest "liberals"? Which was it? "school prayer was *not* banned", or "school prayer ... *had* [been] banned"? Which do you like better? It was not banned, but it was banned? or It was banned, but it was not banned? Do you feel strongly both ways, lojbab? Do you feel strongly that school prayer was banned, and that school prayer was not banned? This little demonstration of women's intuition is exactly why 32% of American 12th grade girls' responses were not statistically significant, 23% were statistically significant because they scored lower than if they'd just guessed, and of the 45% that was statistically significant, the amount by which they scored lower than boys was statistically significant on 24.4%, by which they scored higher than boys was statistically significant on 2.6%, and the difference between boys and girls was not stastically significant on 18%. http://fathersmanifesto.net/timssphysics.htm Do you feel this strongly about adultery laws? Adultery laws WERE repealed, but adultery laws were NOT repealed? Or what about women's intelligence? Do you fell strongly that men are more intelligent than women, AND that women are more intelligent than men? This is a keeper.
"I know of many people
who believe that Christianity is something different This statement was followed up with: From: "Bob LeChevalier" [email protected] Newsgroups: alt.feminism,bionet.neuroscience,soc.men,alt.religion.wicca,alt.education,alt.religion Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 8:02 PM Subject: Re: brain sizes: Einstein's and women's
"This makes the
assumption that those who know nothing guess randomly. IN These two false, hypocritical statements summarize what it is about "liberals" educated in the US public "school" system that makes them so ignorant of the world they live in and the life's philosophy of our Founding Forefathers who made this a once-great country. The inability and unwillingness of "liberals" to grasp some of the most basic concepts can probably never be changed, no matter how much this nation spends for "education". They are in fact living proof that doubling the cost of education from 4% to 8% of GDP is most likely a major reason SAT scores plunged 98 points, the US scored dead last in 17 of 34 TIMSS subjects, and American 12th grade girls scored lower on one third of the multiple choice questions than if they'd just guessed. Is it even possible that there may be some truth to the statement: "Indeed, we know that they do not ... guess randomly when faced with a test question they do not understand"? No, there is not. When American girls failed to correctly answer so many multiple choice questions, and when the test results show that they did not omit the question and did provide at least some kind of a response, then we know that they guessed at many of the answers. Is it possible that their guesses were not random? The only evidence that they didn't guess randomly on many questions is the fact that they scored lower on one third of the TIMSS physics questions than if they had just guessed randomly. This means that there was some factor that influenced them to answer the questions wrong, so their answers cannot be considered to be random. Whether this is because they were taught the wrong thing in the classroom (even though the boys sitting right next to them were taught the right thing), or because they believed the myth about "women's intuition" and decided to rely on this rather than answer the question based on what they were taught, is irrelevant. The fact is that being so consistent in selecting the wrong answer on this third of the test is the only evidence we have that they didn't guess randomly. Of the 38 physics questions for which the answers were made available to the public, the amount by which girls scored higher than if they had just guessed was statistically significant on 17 of them, the amount by which they scored higher or lower than if they had just guessed was not statistically significant on 12 of them, and the amount by which they scored lower than if they had just guessed was statistically significant on 9 of them. Of the 17 questions or 45% of the test where the amount by which they scored higher than if they'd just guessed and their responses were statistically significant, they scored significantly lower than boys on 9 (24% of the test), significantly higher on 1 (2.6% of the test), and the difference between boys and girls was not statistically significant on 7 of them (18% of the test). Of the 12 questions or 32% of the test where their response was not statistically significant, they scored significantly lower than boys on 4 and the difference was not statistically significant on 8 of them. Of the 9 questions or 24% of the test where the amount by which they scored significantly lower than if they'd just guessed, they scored significantly lower than boys on 8 and significantly higher than boys on 1. On some questions there may have been a clue that caused them to select one answer over the other, so it could be argued that guesses on some other questions were also not random. But when their responses were not statistically significant on almost a third of the test, or 32% of the questions, we know that at least ONE question didn't provide any clues like this, which would mean that the only way they were able to provide a response was to guess randomly, which makes this statement false. It's highly likely that their responses to all 12 questions were based solely on random guesses, which means that we know that they DID "guess randomly", not that they did not. Because their responses were lower than if they'd just guessed or were not statistically significant on 21 questions, the results of this 55% of the test cannot be used to assess their skills.
The following Table summarizes the answers to the 38 TIMSS Physics questions for which the original problems are described. The first column is the Question Number, the second column describes whether the question was a multiple choice problem or not, the third column is the percent of girls who scored higher than if they'd just guessed on the multiple choice questions, the fourth column is whether or not this difference was statistically significant and by what percentage it exceeded the 3% standard error, the fifth column is by what percentage boys scored higher than girls (or with negative numbers, by what percentage girls scored higher than boys), and the sixth column is whether or not this difference was statistically significant and by what percentage it exceeded the 3% standard error. For example, Question G10 was a multiple choice question where 4.7% of the girls scored lower than if they'd just guessed. After subtracting the 3% standard error, it was statistically significant that 1.7% of them scored lower than if they'd just guessed. 4.5% more boys than girls got this question correct, and 1.5% of their responses were statistically significant. Question H01 was a multiple choice question where girls scored 17% higher than if they'd just guessed, 4.1% more girls than boys got this question correct, and the amount by which this difference was statistically significant was 1.1%. It was the only question which was statistically significant and where girls scored higher than if they'd just guessed where the amount by which girls scored higher than boys was statistically significant. This was a memorization question. On none of the questions which involved calculations did girls score higher than boys. All of the questions
[email protected] (Jd) wrote: >In alt.education Re: brain sizes: Einstein's and women's, >Bob LeChevalier wrote... >>> In fact, it's far more likely that that person is a Jew posing as a >>>Christian because, >>> >>> 1) the statements were antichrist in spirit >>> >>> 2) antichrist spirits often try to blend in with Christians as they >>>did in the first Church where they appeared in their first >>>manifestations... >> >>That is a rather meager bit of evidence that someone is "a Jew posing as a >>Christian". If they were "posing" or "trying to blend in" they would be >>unlikely to want to give themselves away by such an overt "antichrist" >>statement, since obviously such behavior does not make them blend in. > >Nevertheless, that person is "more likely" to be a Jew than a >Christian in my opinion. Why is it that you get so upset when I >write down my opinion yet you applaud when imposters write down >their opinions? Upset? Why would I get upset over something like a Usenet debate? I disagree with your opinion, because I know many Jews, and I know of no particular reason why a Jew would pose as a Christian in order to act against Christianity. Now the JEWS as a people feel that "Jews for Jesus" are Christians posing as Jews in order to subvert Judaism (and Jewish families). But there is nothing in their religion compelling Jews to try to convert or subvert Christianity - they just would rather be left alone and not evangelized. I know of many people who believe that Christianity is something different from what you appear to believe it is. I don't believe that anyone but God is authorized to judge what is in our hearts, which is what determines whether we are saved through Christ. Therefore I must assume that a person who says they are a Christian IS a Christian though he may be a sinner like all of us in a particular sinful practice or statement that I do not myself accept as being Christian. Only explicit denial of Christ's divinity is sufficient for me to reject someone who says he is a Christian as not really being Christian (e.g. Thomas Jefferson), and even then I don't presume that God approves of my making that judgement. Meanwhile, I have no reason to presume that someone who is "antichrist" is necessarily Jewish (I know several atheists, none of whom is Jewish, who are far more antichrist and antiChristian than any Jew.) Finally, I have seen no "imposters" whose opinions I have applauded. The nincompoop is the only person I have reason to believe MIGHT be an imposter (because his arguments seem so out of touch with reality that they could be an elaborate put-on). No one else I've seen post in this thread or its near-relatives that I've participated, is falsely claiming to be a Christian, which is what you seem to mean by "imposter". Only a couple have even claimed to be Christian, including myself. Others reject Christianity (and make it clear that they do), or don't indicate one way or another what they personally believe. They are arguing on this thread because they find it fun to torment the nincompoop, who has earned that net-torment by his net-behavior. (If you think one must or should be a Christian to appear on a group that pertains to Christianity, then Usenet is NOT the medium for you because there are no such rules and many people who delight in flaunting their disdain for people who think that there ARE such rules.) >I think you liberals would take away free speech if >it were possible, and only allowing cursing, obscenities, and porno >movies. Since you by your wording damn me as a "liberal" in the above despite my denial of that political bent, I assert that YOU have "cursed" - you have called me a name that you clearly associate with antichrist, and thus called me in league with Satan. I can imagine no worse a curse than that. I oppose cursing, and for that matter obscenities, and porno movies (which I have never viewed much less favored). Furthermore, I have headed a project for 15 odd years that was started ONLY as a kind of "free speech" movement, and which has neither interest in outlawing any kind of speech at all, and has no opinion at all about porno movies. >>> 3) Jews always point to the Hebrew language as if it's icing on the >>>cake when making a point. Believe me, I've encountered this many >>>times >> >>Does that mean that John Knight is a Jew, since he often pulls out his >>Strong's and misuses a Hebrew word in trying to make a point? > >No. Jews will tell you that the requirement for being Jewish is to >have a Jewish mother. I can assure you, Mr. Knight doesn't have a >Jewish mother. Do you know his mother? Do you even know his real name? How can you make such assurances? BTW, the statement is false. The requirement for being a Jew BY HEREDITY is to have a Jewish mother. But Jews allow conversion by a non-trivial process and such Jewish converts are also Jews. >The Hebrew languange ploy they use is just that, a ploy. Jews use >that ploy to bluff unwary gentiles (in religious discussions) into >thinking that translational errors keep them (gentiles) from >discovering truth. But the nincompoop has used PRECISELY that ploy. And I can recall no one else in this thread who has done so except in regard to the Talmud (which isn't entirely in Hebrew, so I've been told, so there are Hebrew scholars (I have one visiting me right now in fact) who cannot read all of the Talmud in the original language. >The kicker however, is that since the NT was written in Hellenistic >Greek and not Hebrew, Jews that use the "ploy" must learn Greek and >study the NT before criticizing the NT, if they subject themselves >to their own standard. But they don't and won't. I don't know of any Jew who much CARES what is written in the NT, or who would have reason to argue on the basis of what is in the NT. If they argue, it is on the basis of the OT. >Now below, I've re-quoted what Angilion said. See if you can catch >the subtle Hebrew language ploy... along with the error: > >Angilion said... > > "The reason they refer to Hebrew is because it's the language >used for the Old Testament of the Bible and the language used in >Jesus' lifetime, where he lived." > >...see that? The language they used in Jesus' lifetime wasn't even >Hebrew way back then, it was Hellenistic Greek (which is different >from classical Greek). In the Holy Land, it was Aramaic and Hebrew and Latin and Greek, each by different people at different times for different purposes. There is no particular reason to believe that Jesus spoke any languages other than Aramaic (spoken in Nazereth) and Hebrew (spoken in the temple). >Perhaps you and Angilion were also ignorant >of the fact that Galilean gentiles 20 centuries ago didn't speak >ancient Hebrew either. So? >Matthew 4:13-14 And leaving Nazareth, he came and dwelt in >Capernaum, which is upon the sea coast, in the borders of Zabulon >and Nephthalim: That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by >Esaias the prophet, saying, > >Mathew 4:15-16 The land of Zabulon, and the land of Nephthalim, by >the way of the sea, beyond Jordan, Galilee of the Gentiles; The >people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat >in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up. > >In fact, that particular greek dialect was the language of choice >for the Jews of 332 B.C. who lived in Alexandria Egypt (which was >the cultural capital of the Greek Empire). Jews occupied 1/4 of >Alexandria and that was the place where the Hebrew scriptures were >first translated (into Greek, ~285 B.C.). That's a good 3 centuries >before Jesus and proves that Hebrew wasn't the language of choice by >scholars way back then. That proves no such thing. It proves that Jews in Alexandria spoke Greek as their native language, so that Hebrew wasn't the language of choice by Alexandrian Jews way back then. >However, historical revisionists have that first translation into >greek dated at "before 100 A.D." Guess why they picked 100 A.D.? Because there are different estimates of the date, but all of them are before 100 A.D. >>> 4) ADL type liberal Jews want to disarm America and legalizing >>>tetrahydrocanabanolis would make that task a great deal easier. >> >>What does being armed have to do with being Christian? Do you really think >>you can defeat Satan with a gun? > >If you are "armed" it means that you are fundamentally opposed to >the Neo-Nazi gun control legislation ADL liberals and other liberals >are "for". Which has nothing to do with Christianity, unless you have a Bible verse commanding that you own a gun. >To me, this represents a shift away from ADL liberalism towards >conservative (and Constitutional) values and freedoms. Obviously, >Jewry must've been putting pressure on the Israeli Rabbinate for >such a decision to have been made public. Or maybe most Jews don't have any particular care WHAT the "Israeli Rabbinate" thinks. Certainly true of most of the Jews I know (since most Jews I know are not observant; i.e. they do not practice the rituals associated with Orthodox Jewry). >>> 6) Real Christians know these things. >> >>This "real Christian" knows otherwise. > >Well, you should "know better". And so should Angilion. I know better than to think that "real Christians" are any less sinners than any other human being. lojbab
"Jet" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]... >
Wrong. Dead wrong. You could make that argument about one question, but when the pattern is repeated over and over again, then you can detect a pattern: American girls scored lower on many questions than if they'd just guessed because they didn't have a clue about what the answer was. Many of these questions had zero misses [read: 0% failed to provide an answer at all], which means you're nuts to even hint that "Indeed, we know that they do not" "guess randomly".
The ONLY time you could apply that argument is when a large percentage of them answered correctly, but even then, if 0% failed to respond at all, then some of them HAD to guess. > > But the assumption becomes totally meaningless if in fact they know > > SOMETHING. If 100% of them know something, but not enough to solve the > > problem, then it is quite plausible that 100% of them will get the answer > > wrong. Thus someone knowing Newtonian physics perfectly will get the wrong > > answer on a question that uses special relativity theory. A good test > > designer will know that the Newtonian approximation is a likely error, and > > will include that answer among the incorrect alternatives. > > Then the article makes the shockingly stupid conclusion that NONE of the > girls who got the answer right understood the problem! >
If guessing on a multiple choice question would yield 25% correct, but American girls only got 5% correct, then how would YOU calculate how many of them understood the problem > > > > >No algebra. No calculus. A bit of probability theory, and you already know > > >that 25% of all students will get the correct answer if they only *guess* on > > >a four part multiple choice question. > > > > But you have no evidence that any kid "guessed" on any problem. > > > > >Now here's the hard part: > > > > > >Question H04 on TIMSS had four multiple choice answers, so you would think > > >that no country or age group or race or sex would answer less than 25% of > > >them correct, right > > > > Wrong. I would think that if the question were difficult and well designed, > > that this would be quite possible. > > > > >How do you think that's possible > > > > > >You can probably figure this out with no knowledge of algebra or calculus, > > >and you already know all the probability theory that might be needed, so > > >what is your explanation > > > > I've given an explanation, and mine explains how on question D12, both boys > > and girls in the US scored less than 17% and South Africans scored only 6.4% > > correct. > > Isn't it odd that someone who is harping on math ability doesn't seem to > realize that 17 and 6 are both lower than 25 :) > > J
What's your point, J Who exactly do you think made the point that getting 17% correct on a four part multiple guess problem is a lower score than if everyone just guessed
What part of that don't you understand (other than the typical and infinitely STUPID statement by lojbab that no students guessed)
John Knight "Bob LeChevalier" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]... > "John Knight" <[email protected]>
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Wrong, wrong, and wrong. > The best evidence for guessing (which would not prove it, but it would be > evidence) would be if all of the answers, correct and incorrect, were chosen > with equal frequency within the expected margins to support a "random" > selection. This would among other things require one to know how many girls > selected each answer, and those numbers are not published - only the numbers > for all American kids. A couple of questions have approximately equal > distribution among the 4 answers, but not many. And guessing does not > explain instances where more than half of each gender got the question > correct, nor D12 where fewer than 17% got the question correct. >
Wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong. > >> Then the article makes the shockingly stupid conclusion that NONE of the > >> girls who got the answer right understood the problem! > > > >If guessing on a multiple choice question would yield 25% correct, but > >American girls only got 5% correct, then how would YOU calculate how many of > >them understood the problem > > You can't. There is no data available to make such a calculation, and since > TIMSS was not trying to measure "understanding the problem", there is no > reason to fault them for not providing such data (Even if we had a clear > definition of what you mean by "understood the problem")
Man, you're batting a thousand. Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong.
Wrong and wrong.
Well, now, it's clear as a bell what it is about "liberals" that they're so incapable of thought, discussion, debate, logic, or even basic communication, and always feel compelled to resort to ad hominems and character assassination.
You're literally uneducable, lojbab. There's obviously nothing anyone can teach you about it at this moment in your life, and I doubt if there ever was a time when you were capable of learning it.
There may not be one other person on this feminized forum who does comprehend that you managed to 14 LIES or false statements into 4 short paragraphs, but that's exactly what you did.
This was classic. I *really* appreciate that belly laugh. Whoever could have guessed that your posts are some of the best comedy around!
John Knight
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