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1995 Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh was a Muslim sympathizer


The popular image of 1995 Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh is that of a twisted “patriot” out to avenge government actions at Waco and Ruby Ridge. This is what Wikipedia says about McVeigh:

McVeigh, a Persian Gulf War veteran, sought revenge against the federal government for its handling of the Waco Siege, which ended in the deaths of 76 people exactly two years before the bombing, as well as for the Ruby Ridge incident in 1992. McVeigh hoped to inspire a revolt against what he considered to be a tyrannical federal government.

From the beginning, the media had portrayed McVeigh and co-conspirator Terry Nichols as extremist, “right-wing,” Christian nut-cases. Just recently, on ABC’s The View on November 17, co-host Joy Behar called Americans unChristian for objecting to Obama’s program of bringing unvetted Muslim “refugees” to the United States. Behar then implied that Syrian Christian refugees are dangerous because “Timothy McVeigh was a Christian.” (See “Whoopi Goldberg, the woman who named herself after farting, says Christians are just as dangerous as Muslims“)

Joy Behar

Joy Behar

But The Federalist points out that McVeigh wasn’t a Christian — he identified himself as an agnostic. Though raised as a Roman Catholic, McVeigh stated in his 2002 biography American Terrorist that he did not believe in a hell and that science was his religion. In June 2001, a day before the execution, McVeigh wrote a letter to the Buffalo News identifying himself as agnostic.

More than that, McVeigh was a Muslim sympathizer.

In her bestseller, The Third Terrorist, investigative journalist Jayna Davispresents the evidence showing that Timothy McVeigh was a front man for Middle Eastern terrorists, and that a third co-conspirator was an Iraqi — the mysterious “John Doe” who was never found. Davis says the evidence was ignored and dismissed because the Clinton Administration didn’t want to go to war with Iraq, the likely culprit, and wanted to blame the attack on domestic right-wingers for political reasons.  

Roger Aronoff of Accuracy in Media writes:

Davis makes a convincing case that in fact McVeigh “was a handpicked dupe, set up to take the fall in order to save his Islamic collaborators from prosecution.” She documents that he hadexpressed a desire to be a mercenary for Middle Eastern terrorists, and that the trail of evidence that both he and his accomplice Terry Nichols left behind points in the direction of an Arab/Muslim connection to the attack.

In her book, Davis details sworn affidavits from very credible witnesses wholink McVeigh and Nichols to former Iraqi soldiers in the U.S. who were anti-American infiltrators wanting revenge on America’s Middle East policy. For that, Davis said she was called a racist:

“I’m an NBC affiliated reporter, I was from the mainstream media, but I was branded a racist, and politically incorrect, because I was pursuing legitimate leads and evidence that led to foreign involvement in the Oklahoma City bombing,” she said. “So by virtue of securing his [1996] White House bid by blaming right-wing rhetoric for inciting Timothy McVeigh, Bill Clinton was able to seal the case. That was it. It was domestic, home-grown terrorism. And now, fifteen years later, he comes out with the temerity and absolute audacity to try to compare these Tea Party conservatives with [McVeigh] a bloodthirsty terrorist. I mean, nothing could be further from the truth. “

In a 1,200-word essay dated March 1998, from the federal maximum-security prison at Florence, Colorado, McVeigh claimed that the Oklahoma City bombing was “morally equivalent” to U.S. military actions against Iraq and other foreign countries. The essay marked the first time that McVeigh publicly discussed the Oklahoma City bombing. He wrote:

The administration has said that Iraq has no right to stockpile chemical or biological weapons (“weapons of mass destruction”) — mainly because they have used them in the past.

Well, if that’s the standard by which these matters are decided, then the U.S. is the nation that set the precedent. The U.S. has stockpiled these same weapons (and more) for over 40 years….

Remember Dresden? How about Hanoi? Tripoli? Baghdad? What about the big ones — Hiroshima and Nagasaki? (At these two locations, the U.S. killed at least 150,000 non-combatants — mostly women and children — in the blink of an eye. Thousands more took hours, days, weeks or months to die).

If Saddam is such a demon, and people are calling for war crimes charges and trials against him and his nation, why do we not hear the same cry for blood directed at those responsible for even greater amounts of “mass destruction” — like those responsible and involved in dropping bombs on the cities mentioned above?

The truth is, the U.S. has set the standard when it comes to the stockpiling and use of weapons of mass destruction.

Four years after his conviction, McVeigh was executed by lethal injection on June 11, 2001.

Jayna Davis’s book has received the endorsement of, among other authorities:

bullet Former CIA director Jim Woolsey.
bullet David Schippers, former congressional investigator and a seasoned prosecutor responsible for prosecuting the impeachment trial of Bill Clinton.
bullet Larry Johnson, a former deputy director of the State Department’s Office of Counter Terrorism. According to the Wall Street Journal, Johnson said, “Looking at the Jayna Davis material, what’s clear is that more than Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols were involved. Without a doubt, there’s a Middle Eastern tie to the Oklahoma City bombing.”

This is what Jayna Davis said about the official and media version of the Oklahoma City bombing:

“Here’s where I think it, it lies: It’s going to have to be the peasants with the pitchforks. These people are going to have to rise up, just like the Tea Party movement is angry about Washington policies that affect their pocketbooks and the future of their children and the national deficit. They’re going to have to rise up and demand that this record is corrected.”

Otherwise, the liberal left will continue to use their version of Oklahoma City to smear anybody critical of their control of the federal government. Davis said:

“They’re going to continue to label anybody who carries a placard or raises a voice of dissent in a peaceful protest as a ‘Tim McVeigh wannabe.’  And until The Third Terrorist, and this evidence embodied in my book, is actually proven, prosecuted, and validated in a courtroom setting, the label of ‘Tim McVeigh wannabe’ is going to continue to be attached to God-fearing Americans who dare to step forward and question and hold to account their elected officials.

My belief is, the best way to get this into a courtroom, and to finally seek justice for the slain of April 19th, 1995, is to pressure the District Attorney of Oklahoma County, who single-handedly holds the legal power to go out and arrest these Arab suspects and put them on trial. He does not need the permission of the federal government. He can act single-handedly, either put it before a grand jury and issue an indictment, or he can just issue arrest warrants based on the evidence and talk to the witnesses.”

According to the Wall Street Journal, the court did not grant McVeigh’s attorney Stephen Jones’s request to comb through U.S. intelligence files in search of an Iraq connection to the Oklahoma City bombing. For his part, when he sentenced McVeigh to death, U.S. District Judge Richard Matsch said, “It would be disappointing to me if the law enforcement agencies of the United States government have quit looking for answers.”

AIM’s Roger Aronoff asked readers to phone Oklahoma County District Attorney David Prater at (405) 713-1600 or here, and ask respectfully that he act on the evidence presented by Jayna Davis.

That was in April 2010, more than 5 years ago.

H/t John Molloy








It's about time!  While never having had any solid evidence to back it up, I have long suspected the feds knew about McVeigh's plans early enough to stop him, and instead allowed him to carry out the OKC bombing to the extent they made sure the damage exceeded what the ANFO bomb alone could not do.


I know, call me crazy, but there is only one good reason not to arrest and prosecute all the people involved in the OKC conspiracy -- if they know who they are -- and that would be to conceal evidence related to what those protected suspects know.


It's a no-brainer.  Carl F. Worden






Former high-ranking FBI official calls for new OKC bombing probe

J.D. Cash

Danny Coulson

A former deputy assistant director of the FBI with extensive experience in domestic terrorism cases is calling for additional investigation into the 1995 bombing of the A.P. Murrah Federal Building.

Danny Coulson – a man who played a central role in the early stages of the original OKBOMB case – took time from his vacation with his wife in McCurtain County last weekend to review teletypes issued by former FBI director Louis Freeh after Coulson left the investigation.

The legendary agent who created the FBI’s fabled Hostage Rescue Team (HRT) and solved some of the nation’s toughest cases, Coulson says he now suspects some of Timothy McVeigh’s cohorts were not charged in the horrendous crime.

New evidence

Central to his call for additional investigation are FBI teletypes that were heavily redacted by the agency before their release some weeks ago. Although some sentences and many names are redacted, there was enough information contained in those documents to impress the former OKBOMB commander that more persons were involved in the attack.

Referring to a January 4, 1996 teletype from former director Freeh to a select group of FBI offices, Coulson said that he believes a man he has long suspected should have been more thoroughly investigated in the crime, German National Andreas Strassmeir, is one of the names the bureau has blacked out of those documents.

Coulson said he suspects Strassmeir may have been more involved with McVeigh than the agency has publicly admitted.

After reviewing the teletypes at a cabin north of Pickens on Sunday, Coulson says he now wants to see a much more thorough investigation done of Strassmeir and the bank bandits the German lived with at Elohim City.

“I have had significant experience conducting major investigations and in my view this case is not over,” Coulson said.

“For many years, I’ve believed Elohim City was important to this case, and I think we now know Tim McVeigh had contacts there. That is the key to understanding this complicated case. Any future investigation should focus strictly on McVeigh’s associates within that group.”

Source of new documents

The plaintiff in a Freedom of Information Act case against the FBI – and making use of the teletypes – is Salt Lake City attorney Jesse Trentadue. He believes the FBI is hiding evidence that his brother was tortured and murdered in August 1995 during an interrogation at the Oklahoma City Federal Transfer Center.

For years, the FBI has said Kenneth Trentadue hanged himself, but his older brother believes FBI agents killed his ex-convict brother while seeking information about a group of bank bandits associated with McVeigh, Strassmeir and the bombing.

Before McVeigh was executed, Trentadue says he was contacted by an intermediary at the prison where McVeigh was incarcerated and told that McVeigh believed the FBI mistakenly thought Kenneth Trentadue was a man associated with a bank robbery gang linked to the bombing conspiracy.

Close to the bank robbery gang, Strassmeir is a former German military officer with extensive intelligence training. His name came to light after the bombing when this newspaper began interviewing people at Elohim City with ties to McVeigh.

McVeigh’s phone records, discovered by the FBI after the bombing, indicate a call was placed to Elohim City on April 5, 1995 – just seconds after a call was made with the same calling card to a Ryder Truck establishment. People the FBI interviewed at the compound said McVeigh was seeking Strassmeir.

A judge in the Salt Lake City federal court has ordered the FBI to turn over to Trentadue documents showing there were informants at Elohim City at the time of the bombing that worked for a private charity – the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC).

According to those teletypes, SPLC informants were present at Elohim City on April 17 when McVeigh contacted the compound, looking for additional help in the bomb plot.

According to then-director Freeh, McVeigh was looking for extra help with his plans when he called the compound. However, the FBI blacked out much of the person’s name with whom Freeh said McVeigh was closely associated. In the past, the FBI has vehemently denied McVeigh had any close associates at the camp.

Strassmeir was the compound’s paramilitary instructor from 1993 until August of 1995.

And since the bombing, over a half-dozen of Strassmeir’s associates at Elohim City have gone to prison for bank robbery, conspiracy to overthrow the government and murder. None, however, were ever charged in the bombing of the federal building in Oklahoma City.

Inexplicably, Strassmeir was allowed to the leave this country in early 1996. In one of the teletypes issued by Freeh, the director appears to know where Strassmeir is staying in the U.S. and of plans Strassmeir is making to return to Germany through Mexico.

Days after Freeh’s memo was issued, Strassmeir did indeed cross the Mexican border and make his way to Berlin with the assistance of former CIA pilot Dave Holloway.

Neither Dave Holloway nor his associate, attorney Kirk Lyons of North Carolina – who paid for the pair’s trip – were ever charged with aiding Strassmeir’s flight. At the time of Strassmeir’s escape, he was listed as an illegal overstay by the INS and wanted by the ATF for illegally carrying a firearm in the U.S.

Believing him to be “armed and dangerous” at the time, the OKBOMB task force even contacted the INS and asked that Strassmeir be stopped at the border and held for questioning in the bombing case. Incredibly, this is the same week that Freeh told several offices that Strassmeir was staying in North Carolina with Lyons.

Safely back in Germany for many weeks, it’s only after Strassmeir’s name was linked to McVeigh by this newspaper and others that two Justice Department lawyers in Denver called Strassmeir in Berlin, twice, to ask about any contacts he may have had with McVeigh and the bombing.

During those brief interviews, Strassmeir admitted over the phone that he may have met McVeigh at a gun show in Tulsa once, but he also assured prosecutors he did not help with the bomb plot.

In the wake of the tragedy, the FBI had available several well-qualified commanders with extensive experience in major case investigations to lead and complete the investigation. However, a man with much less investigative experience, Danny Defenbaugh, replaced the original five experienced FBI commanders’ initially assigned to head the case.

With the original five commanders off the OKBOMB case, considerable criticism has since been leveled at the job Defenbaugh did while heading up the FBI’s most expensive investigation in U.S. history.

In spite of two dozen eyewitnesses that placed McVeigh with others in downtown Oklahoma City that day and $85 million that was spent putting together a case that sent two men to jail and one to the death chamber, only McVeigh and army buddy Terry Nichols were charged. Also imprisoned, Michael Fortier admitted his involvement in the conspiracy and agreed to cooperate with the FBI in return for a lighter sentence.

Jurors in both cases in Denver, plus a grand jury in Oklahoma City, said they doubted the FBI had gotten all those involved.

In 2001, over 4,000 pages of FBI interviews and other evidence never shown the defense teams for McVeigh or Nichols were discovered on the eve of McVeigh’s execution.

The discovery caused McVeigh’s execution to be put on hold and the fiasco quickly led to the sudden resignation of Defenbaugh.

Coulson believes the magnitude of the tragic attack that left 168 dead and 500 injured warrants the appointment of an experienced federal prosecutor to look into all of the evidence and the use of a federal grand jury to facilitate the investigation.

“Based upon my investigation following the bombing of the Murrah building on April 19, 1995, and these new documents from the FBI turned up in the Utah case, it’s clear to me further investigation is required,” he said.

Referring to the documents uncovered during the FOIA lawsuit and the large number of witnesses the FBI interviewed after the bombing that placed McVeigh in the company of others at key points in the conspiracy, Coulson observed, “The totality of this information very strongly indicates there are others involved and not charged who were involved at least in conspiratorial acts.

“Families of victims and the American people deserve answers to many unanswered questions,” he said.

“It is my opinion that a new investigation would only be successful if conducted through the auspices of a federal grand jury. It would be necessary to subpoena documents and some people would need to be given immunity to obtain the cooperation necessary to expose those guilty. This was the most heinous crime ever committed in the country at that time and we must be confident we did everything to find those responsible,” he added.



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